On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:29:08 -0800 (PST) someone who may be naked_draughtsman <[email hidden]> wrote this:-
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The hospital had a noticeable number of posters around the place though saying how important it was to always wear a helmet (presumably when riding a bike as it the picture looked like a bike helmet!)
You should have asked them why one should always wear a helmet in the hospital.
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:34:54 -0800 (PST), naked_draughtsman <[email hidden]> wrote:
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Bus overtook quite close then moved back in before passing me. I moved in while banging on the back hoping the driver would hear but he didn't and kept going. Not sure exactly how, probably a combination of braking, steering and a 'shove', but ended up going over the handlebars.
I'm still waiting to hear back from the police, as the driver didn't stop.
Failing to stop after an accident is an offense. The driver should be prosecuted and lose his job IMHO.
Do you know that the driver was aware of the accident?
Failing to stop after an accident is an offense. The driver should be prosecuted and lose his job IMHO.
Do you know that the driver was aware of the accident?
If he moved in on a cyclist without being aware of it, all the more reason that he shouldn't be driving, let alone in a professional capacity.
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I was hit by a bus on Thursday. Second to being told I'm in plaster for at least 6 weeks the worst part was the courtesy call to my parents. They wanted to know why I wasn't riding in the 0.5m wide cycle lane running in the 'door zone' next to a parking bay. They then suggested that I ride on the pavement in the future.....
Get well soon. I'm a little confused. Did your parents suggest you ride on the pavement or hospital staff?
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On 26/01/2008 16:13, Ekul Namsob wrote: > Mark <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Failing to stop after an accident is an offense. The driver should be >>prosecuted and lose his job IMHO.
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> Do you know that the driver was aware of the accident?
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If he moved in on a cyclist without being aware of it, all the more reason that he shouldn't be driving, let alone in a professional capacity.
I don't disagree with you there, but I'm not convinced he could successfully be prosecuted for 'failing to stop after an accident'.
On 26/01/2008 16:13, Ekul Namsob wrote: > Mark <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Failing to stop after an accident is an offense. The driver should be >>prosecuted and lose his job IMHO. > > Do you know that the driver was aware of the accident?
If he moved in on a cyclist without being aware of it, all the more reason that he shouldn't be driving, let alone in a professional capacity.
I don't disagree with you there, but I'm not convinced he could successfully be prosecuted for 'failing to stop after an accident'.
Why not? There was an accident (or rather a collision) and he did not stop.
He might well reasonably be able to offer the defence that he was unaware of the accident. My car was once hit by an HGV whose driver had no idea that he had removed my wing mirror. My first response was not to contact the police, it was to contact the driver's employer. Everything was sorted out swiftly and without fuss.
He might well reasonably be able to offer the defence that he was unaware of the accident.
Being unaware of having committed an offence is not a defence.
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He might well reasonably be able to offer the defence that he was unaware of the accident.
Being unaware of having committed an offence is not a defence.
Having an accident is not an offence. I would suggest, however, that as neither of us are lawyers, we agree to disagree.
Failing to stop at the scene of an accident, OTOH, is.
-- Danny Colyer <http://www.redpedals.co.uk> Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often "The plural of anecdote is not data" - Frank Kotsonis
He might well reasonably be able to offer the defence that he was unaware of the accident.
Being unaware of having committed an offence is not a defence.
But sometimes the definition of an offence excludes being unaware. You cannot commit theft without "the intention to permanently deprive", for example.
Being ignorant that something _is_ an offence is not a defence. Being ignorant that you are doing the something often is, since many offences require intent. -- David Damerell <[email hidden]> flcl? Today is Gorgonzoladay, January - a weekend.
You seem to be right, in that it's an absolute offence. That is, there is no requirement to have any particular intent. (You should use www.statutelaw.gov.uk for this kind of thing really. That gives the text with any amendedments.)
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