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BB width for Shimano 600 crank

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  1. Hi - running older Shimano 8 speed on the cross bike. looking to use an
    early 1990's Shimano 600 square taper crank on a UN-73 BB (all
    68/English). On Sheldon's website, it lists the later Ultegra 8 crank
    and the 600 together and has 113 with 115 in parentheses as the widths.
    The way the info is set up, it left me a little confused as to which BB
    matches which crank, if either is acceptable, or if there is any
    difference at all, other than labeling, between the 600 and the later
    Ulterga 8 cranks.
    Or does 2 mm even matter ? Any guidance appreciated.

    Lou D'Amelio

  2. Lou D'Amelio said:

    Hi - running older Shimano 8 speed on the cross bike. looking to use an
    early 1990's Shimano 600 square taper crank on a UN-73 BB (all
    68/English). On Sheldon's website, it lists the later Ultegra 8 crank
    and the 600 together and has 113 with 115 in parentheses as the widths.
    The way the info is set up, it left me a little confused as to which BB
    matches which crank, if either is acceptable, or if there is any
    difference at all, other than labeling, between the 600 and the later
    Ulterga 8 cranks.
    Or does 2 mm even matter ? Any guidance appreciated.

    Lou D'Amelio

    IIRC, the 113mm refers to the loose ball BB, and the 115 refers to the
    cartridge bb. Shimano 600 came out before the cassette BBs were
    released.

    http://www.fa-technik.adfc.de/Hersteller/Shimano/Gruppen80.html
    http://www.fa-technik.adfc.de/Hersteller/Shimano/Gruppen.html

    Shimano BB-6400 had loose balls and was 113 mm long.
    Shimano BB-UN70 (for the same 600 Ultegra crank) was a cassette BB and
    was 115 mm long.

  3. Lou D'Amelio said:

    Hi - running older Shimano 8 speed on the cross bike. looking to use an
    early 1990's Shimano 600 square taper crank on a UN-73 BB (all
    68/English). On Sheldon's website, it lists the later Ultegra 8 crank
    and the 600 together and has 113 with 115 in parentheses as the widths.
    The way the info is set up, it left me a little confused as to which BB
    matches which crank, if either is acceptable, or if there is any
    difference at all, other than labeling, between the 600 and the later
    Ulterga 8 cranks.
    Or does 2 mm even matter ? Any guidance appreciated.

    IRRC, it's a chainline issue. 113mm was from the 7SP (126mm OLD) era.
    115mm is from the 8SP (130mm OLD) era. So, for you, 115mm is likely
    better, but no, 2mm isn't a big deal.

  4. 115 it is. Thanks for both quick and knowledgable replies.

    Lou D.

  5. Lou D'Amelio said:

    Hi - running older Shimano 8 speed on the cross bike. looking to use an
    early 1990's Shimano 600 square taper crank on a UN-73 BB (all
    68/English). On Sheldon's website, it lists the later Ultegra 8 crank
    and the 600 together and has 113 with 115 in parentheses as the widths.
    The way the info is set up, it left me a little confused as to which BB
    matches which crank, if either is acceptable, or if there is any
    difference at all, other than labeling, between the 600 and the later
    Ulterga 8 cranks.
    Or does 2 mm even matter ? Any guidance appreciated.

    Lou D'Amelio

    113mm for english, 115mm for the far suprior Italian threading...BUT
    115mm for english will be fine as well. For some cross bikes, with fat
    chainstays, you 'may' have a chainring clearance problem with
    115mm..then use a 118 or 122mm.

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