Battery died, great!

"Rex Kerr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

"I'm not spinning fast enough!"
"I've only averaged --?!?"
"I'm only going ---! Faster!"
"It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"

Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!

Odometer and trip distance are helpful, especially when pacing yourself
over a few days on tour. Nothing else, including speed, matters much to
me.>

Yeah, I just got a cheap and cheerful Sigma at REI for training. I've
either lost, given away, or thrown away othe more complex units as they
took too much brainspace. This one does speed and trip distance, and
time (stopping if you stop)--all I need with a single button. Best $13
I ever spent on a bike doohickey.

On 16 May 2006 20:45:59 -0700, "landotter" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Yeah, I just got a cheap and cheerful Sigma at REI for training. I've
either lost, given away, or thrown away othe more complex units as they
took too much brainspace. This one does speed and trip distance, and
time (stopping if you stop)--all I need with a single button. Best $13
I ever spent on a bike doohickey.

I've contemplated mounting mine to the seatpost, where it's only
visible if I stop and get off the bike. All I really want to know
anymore is "How far was that?" Until I get to the destination, it
doesn't really matter to me how far I've gone, because I'm still not
there yet.
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Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

You must be mad... ;-) How is it possible??

--
Jørn Dahl-Stamnes
http://www.dahl-stamnes.net/dahls/

Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

"I'm not spinning fast enough!"
"I've only averaged --?!?"
"I'm only going ---! Faster!"
"It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"

Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!

I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.

That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a daily log
of distance-ridden.

The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these days it
will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the instructions and
execute the endless button-push drill that sets wheel circumference and Odometer
datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences, nor did I
write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different, notwithstanding
the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are identical.

--
Michael

Michael said:

I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.

Me too. It is part of my motivation to keep daily/monthly/yearly
mileage. I am still also riding for the fun of it. I vary my
intensity, but still keep up with the mileage. Some of my best days are
the low mileage days, because I was probably leisurely riding around
looking at stuff, stopping to visit with people, etc.

Michael said:

Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

"I'm not spinning fast enough!"
"I've only averaged --?!?"
"I'm only going ---! Faster!"
"It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"

Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!

I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.

That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a daily log
of distance-ridden.

The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these days it
will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the instructions and
execute the endless button-push drill that sets wheel circumference and Odometer
datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences, nor did I
write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different, notwithstanding
the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are identical.

Do you happen to have a lead-acid battery? If they discharge enough they
die, period. NiCads have a memory effect that causes them to hold less
charge. NiMH are about the best 'semi-affordable' you can get these days
for energy density and such. If you have money to burn you could look
into a high tech Lithium-Polymer pack, but beware of serious sticker
shock. NASA can afford them, and the car makers can brag about them
being available, but they COST.
Bill Baka

"Rex Kerr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

"I'm not spinning fast enough!"
"I've only averaged --?!?"
"I'm only going ---! Faster!"
"It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"

Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!

I'm rough on computers. Having one last two whole seasons is rare. Given
that I.... errrrrr....
cycle between having all that metering and exact knowledge and winging it.
Both are nice. Sometimes it's nice to ignore the exact distances and speeds.
Sometimes I like knowing.

Bill Baka said:

Michael said:

Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

"I'm not spinning fast enough!"
"I've only averaged --?!?"
"I'm only going ---! Faster!"
"It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"

Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!

I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.

That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a daily log
of distance-ridden.

The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these days it
will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the instructions and
execute the endless button-push drill that sets wheel circumference and Odometer
datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences, nor did I
write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different, notwithstanding
the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are identical.

Do you happen to have a lead-acid battery? If they discharge enough they
die, period. NiCads have a memory effect that causes them to hold less
charge. NiMH are about the best 'semi-affordable' you can get these days
for energy density and such. If you have money to burn you could look
into a high tech Lithium-Polymer pack, but beware of serious sticker
shock. NASA can afford them, and the car makers can brag about them
being available, but they COST.
Bill Baka

You responded to my post so I assume you meant it instead of OP.

No, my cyclometer doesn't use lead-acid battery. Button cell. Cyclo is not
wireless, consumes mere micro- (nano-?) watts.

The smallest SLA I've personally seen is 2-volt, 2.5AH. It's roughly the size
of a C-cell ... and is about 2x the volume of my cyclometer.

--
Michael

Michael said:

Bill Baka said:

Michael said:

Rex Kerr wrote:
> The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
> new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
> manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...
>
> ... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
> miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
> average, etc, etc, etc...
>
> The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!
>
> "I'm not spinning fast enough!"
> "I've only averaged --?!?"
> "I'm only going ---! Faster!"
> "It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"
>
> Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!
I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.

That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a daily log
of distance-ridden.

The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these days it
will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the instructions and
execute the endless button-push drill that sets wheel circumference and Odometer
datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences, nor did I
write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different, notwithstanding
the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are identical.

Do you happen to have a lead-acid battery? If they discharge enough they
die, period. NiCads have a memory effect that causes them to hold less
charge. NiMH are about the best 'semi-affordable' you can get these days
for energy density and such. If you have money to burn you could look
into a high tech Lithium-Polymer pack, but beware of serious sticker
shock. NASA can afford them, and the car makers can brag about them
being available, but they COST.
Bill Baka

You responded to my post so I assume you meant it instead of OP.

No, my cyclometer doesn't use lead-acid battery. Button cell. Cyclo is not
wireless, consumes mere micro- (nano-?) watts.

The smallest SLA I've personally seen is 2-volt, 2.5AH. It's roughly the size
of a C-cell ... and is about 2x the volume of my cyclometer.

My mistake. I was thinking a motor battery since I have never seen a
Lithium battery die in less than 7 or 8 years, not months. I have had a
watch since 1982 and replaced 4 batteries and 3 straps but the watch
won't die. I think you got a bad cyclometer. Even my $10 Schwinn has
gone over a year now.
Bill Baka

Bill Baka said:

Michael said:

Bill Baka said:

Michael wrote:
> Rex Kerr wrote:
>> The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
>> new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
>> manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...
>>
>> ... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
>> miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
>> average, etc, etc, etc...
>>
>> The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!
>>
>> "I'm not spinning fast enough!"
>> "I've only averaged --?!?"
>> "I'm only going ---! Faster!"
>> "It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"
>>
>> Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!
> I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as well.
>
> That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a daily log
> of distance-ridden.
>
> The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these days it
> will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the instructions and
> execute the endless button-push drill that sets wheel circumference and Odometer
> datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences, nor did I
> write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different, notwithstanding
> the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are identical.
>
Do you happen to have a lead-acid battery? If they discharge enough they
die, period. NiCads have a memory effect that causes them to hold less
charge. NiMH are about the best 'semi-affordable' you can get these days
for energy density and such. If you have money to burn you could look
into a high tech Lithium-Polymer pack, but beware of serious sticker
shock. NASA can afford them, and the car makers can brag about them
being available, but they COST.
Bill Baka

You responded to my post so I assume you meant it instead of OP.

No, my cyclometer doesn't use lead-acid battery. Button cell. Cyclo is not
wireless, consumes mere micro- (nano-?) watts.

The smallest SLA I've personally seen is 2-volt, 2.5AH. It's roughly the size
of a C-cell ... and is about 2x the volume of my cyclometer.

My mistake. I was thinking a motor battery since I have never seen a
Lithium battery die in less than 7 or 8 years, not months. I have had a
watch since 1982 and replaced 4 batteries and 3 straps but the watch
won't die. I think you got a bad cyclometer. Even my $10 Schwinn has
gone over a year now.
Bill Baka

'Fraid you misunderstood me again, Bill. The 2-year-old battery in my cyclo
seems to be OK; I'm just concerned because it's the original battery, I don't
know how long to expect it will last, and whenever it does die I'll have to do
all that button punching again to re-load clock, odo. ... and the tire
circumference data, after I measure it again.

You and I might have the same model cyclo, by the way. Mine is a red, 1-button
Schwinn. Very nice for my purposes. It appears that Schwinn discontinued it; I
didn't see any the last time I was at the store where I bought mine. Though I
have two, I should have bought several extras.

--
Michael

Michael said:

Bill Baka said:

Michael said:

Bill Baka wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>> Rex Kerr wrote:
>>> The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy
>>> a new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
>>> manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...
>>>
>>> ... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
>>> miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
>>> average, etc, etc, etc...
>>>
>>> The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!
>>>
>>> "I'm not spinning fast enough!"
>>> "I've only averaged --?!?"
>>> "I'm only going ---! Faster!"
>>> "It's only been --- miles? But I'm already tired!"
>>>
>>> Just ride! Look at the trees, river, and wildlife!
>> I agree with the ride-and-look mind set; it happens to be mine as
>> well.
>>
>> That said, I always clip on the cyclometer because I enjoy keeping a
>> daily log of distance-ridden.
>>
>> The battery is nearly two years old and still going, but one of these
>> days it will die, I'll replace it, and then will have to find the
>> instructions and execute the endless button-push drill that sets
>> wheel circumference and Odometer
>> datum for each of two bikes. I do not remember the circumferences,
>> nor did I
>> write them down. (sigh) I do recall that they are different,
>> notwithstanding the fact that both wheels are 27"x1.25" and tires are
>> identical.
>>
> Do you happen to have a lead-acid battery? If they discharge enough
> they die, period. NiCads have a memory effect that causes them to hold
> less charge. NiMH are about the best 'semi-affordable' you can get
> these days for energy density and such. If you have money to burn you
> could look into a high tech Lithium-Polymer pack, but beware of
> serious sticker shock. NASA can afford them, and the car makers can
> brag about them being available, but they COST.
> Bill Baka

You responded to my post so I assume you meant it instead of OP.

No, my cyclometer doesn't use lead-acid battery. Button cell. Cyclo
is not wireless, consumes mere micro- (nano-?) watts.

The smallest SLA I've personally seen is 2-volt, 2.5AH. It's roughly
the size of a C-cell ... and is about 2x the volume of my cyclometer.

My mistake. I was thinking a motor battery since I have never seen a
Lithium battery die in less than 7 or 8 years, not months. I have had a
watch since 1982 and replaced 4 batteries and 3 straps but the watch
won't die. I think you got a bad cyclometer. Even my $10 Schwinn has
gone over a year now.
Bill Baka

'Fraid you misunderstood me again, Bill. The 2-year-old battery in my
cyclo seems to be OK; I'm just concerned because it's the original
battery, I don't know how long to expect it will last, and whenever it
does die I'll have to do all that button punching again to re-load clock,
odo. ... and the tire circumference data, after I measure it again.

You and I might have the same model cyclo, by the way. Mine is a red,
1-button
Schwinn. Very nice for my purposes. It appears that Schwinn discontinued
it; I
didn't see any the last time I was at the store where I bought mine.
Though I have two, I should have bought several extras.

Mine has 2 buttons and you have to be careful which one you push. I pushed 2
at once and erased all of my data and had to start over again. It is only a
$10.00 wired unit, call me cheap, but it does do the basic functions I want
and serves as a clock on the handlebar with speed read out. Works for me.
It also calculates average speed, but keeps counting down for about 5
minutes when I stop, keeps track of total miles, and max speed, 49 MPH so
far down a really steep section of highway with semi's behind me.
It probably has a Lithium battery which will go for about 5 years.
Good luck,
Bill Baka

Bill Baka wrote:
(snip)

Quoted message said:

Mine has 2 buttons and you have to be careful which one you push. I pushed 2
at once and erased all of my data and had to start over again.

That's a design flaw, eh? Pressing and holding my 1-button clears only "trip"
stuff, i.e. odo., max. speed, moving time.

Quoted message said:

It is only a $10.00 wired unit, ...

Mine too. $9+

Quoted message said:

... call me cheap, ....

"Frugal", Bill. Not cheap. :-)

--
Michael

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

I've been enjoying the emanicpation from my own data unit for
a number of years now.

Sometimes I'm tempted to say that I've "outgrown" the need
for cyclocomputers, but that would sound condescending to
those who like 'em, and trollish. And I must honestly
confess to the occasional twinge of temptation to get
another one. But I'd still rather ride a bike than a
computer. It somehow feels more "right" to not nave a
dashboard on my bike.

cheers,
Tom

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Rex Kerr said:

The battery died in one of my bike computers... was planning to buy a
new one... printed the instructions on how to set it from the
manufacturer's website, was ready to have it going again...

... and then I realized how nice it was to not be tied to miles &
miles!, cadence, speed, average speed, match/raise/lower existing
average, etc, etc, etc...

The rides without it have been quite enjoyable!

I've been enjoying the emanicpation from my own data unit for
a number of years now.

Sometimes I'm tempted to say that I've "outgrown" the need
for cyclocomputers, but that would sound condescending to
those who like 'em, and trollish. And I must honestly
confess to the occasional twinge of temptation to get
another one. But I'd still rather ride a bike than a
computer. It somehow feels more "right" to not nave a
dashboard on my bike.

cheers,
Tom

My theory is that there are three kinds of people in the world, those
that like to count, and those that don't. =]

Tom Keats said:

Sometimes I'm tempted to say that I've "outgrown" the need
for cyclocomputers, but that would sound condescending to
those who like 'em, and trollish. And I must honestly
confess to the occasional twinge of temptation to get
another one. But I'd still rather ride a bike than a
computer. It somehow feels more "right" to not nave a
dashboard on my bike.

This may sound trollish as well- or worse, boastful- but the feature I
find handiest on my cyclocomputers is cadence. When my legs start to
weary I like to go to a lower gear and spin faster. I seem to recover
much quicker with the lower force/higher rpm rate than I do by simply
slowing down. The spinning feels so good though I have to be careful
not to spin too fast and the cadence feature helps me keep it under
about 120 rpm. 100 - 120 rpm in that lower gear seems to be a good
recovery method/range for me but darned if I know why.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob said:

Tom Keats said:

Sometimes I'm tempted to say that I've "outgrown" the need
for cyclocomputers, but that would sound condescending to
those who like 'em, and trollish. And I must honestly
confess to the occasional twinge of temptation to get
another one. But I'd still rather ride a bike than a
computer. It somehow feels more "right" to not nave a
dashboard on my bike.

This may sound trollish as well- or worse, boastful- but the feature I
find handiest on my cyclocomputers is cadence. When my legs start to
weary I like to go to a lower gear and spin faster. I seem to recover
much quicker with the lower force/higher rpm rate than I do by simply
slowing down. The spinning feels so good though I have to be careful
not to spin too fast and the cadence feature helps me keep it under
about 120 rpm. 100 - 120 rpm in that lower gear seems to be a good
recovery method/range for me but darned if I know why.

Since you like pumpin' those gams so fast, maybe track racing would
be right up your alley. I'd like to have a stab at it, myself.
I wish I was 30-something years younger. But when I /was/ 30-something
years younger, we didn't have a nearby velodrome.

Anyways, when I get over 120 rpm I can feel my calf muscles slappin'
against the bone (and it's not a pleasant feeling.)

cheers,
Tom

--
-- "When I was young I had a crash, the old man's car took quite a bash ..."
-- Bionic Man, by The Fabulous Poodles

Bob said:

Tom Keats said:

Sometimes I'm tempted to say that I've "outgrown" the need
for cyclocomputers, but that would sound condescending to
those who like 'em, and trollish. And I must honestly
confess to the occasional twinge of temptation to get
another one. But I'd still rather ride a bike than a
computer. It somehow feels more "right" to not nave a
dashboard on my bike.

This may sound trollish as well- or worse, boastful- but the feature I
find handiest on my cyclocomputers is cadence. When my legs start to
weary I like to go to a lower gear and spin faster. I seem to recover
much quicker with the lower force/higher rpm rate than I do by simply
slowing down. The spinning feels so good though I have to be careful
not to spin too fast and the cadence feature helps me keep it under
about 120 rpm. 100 - 120 rpm in that lower gear seems to be a good
recovery method/range for me but darned if I know why.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Bob,
I actually have to agree with you this time. I start a ride in a higher
gear then as my legs wear down I gear down and cadence up to maintain
the same speed. The only difference is that I only spin up to about 100
RPM as more than that means I am racing something or somebody. Usually
trying to draft a truck or bus.
Bill Baka