Basso gets two years...+2 for ProTour Team ?

Keith said:

Basso got what he deserved
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss
too bad he might be the only one.
I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
important to me.

Any comment from Armstrong?

Brian Lafferty said:

Keith said:

Basso got what he deserved
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from...
too bad he might be the only one.
I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
important to me.

Any comment from Armstrong?

Who in the office pool had 14 minutes before Lafferty tied the first
BASSO post to LANCE?

-B

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Brian Lafferty said:

Keith said:

Basso got what he deserved
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss
too bad he might be the only one.
I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
important to me.

Any comment from Armstrong?

Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

Yeah, Lance always has it pegged dead center.

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Bob Schwartz said:

Brian Lafferty said:

Keith wrote:
> Basso got what he deserved
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss
> too bad he might be the only one.
> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
> important to me.

Any comment from Armstrong?

Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

Bob Schwartz

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat
doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!

More lies from the moron who believes because no one wanted to play his
silly games that we all were blind, deaf and dumb.

And for the record - you would accuse Jesus Christ of being a doper without
a qualm on the value of the fact that he liked wine.

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Bob Schwartz said:

Brian Lafferty wrote:
> Keith wrote:
>> Basso got what he deserved
>> http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss
>> too bad he might be the only one.
>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
>> important to me.
> Any comment from Armstrong?
Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

Bob Schwartz

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat
doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!

More lies from the moron who believes because no one wanted to play his
silly games that we all were blind, deaf and dumb.

And for the record - you would accuse Jesus Christ of being a doper without
a qualm on the value of the fact that he liked wine.

:-)

Brian Lafferty said:

Bob Schwartz said:

Brian Lafferty wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Any comment from Armstrong?

Quoted message said:

Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

Quoted message said:

Bob Schwartz

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat
doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!

I shouldn't ask, but what would you expect Armstrong
to say?

- "I knew Basso must be doping, otherwise he never could
have rivaled my puissance"
- "Sorry to hear about this, I guess that makes me first
and virtual second in 2005"
- "Ha ha, now the ASO doesn't dare retroactively take away
one of my TdF titles"
- "I'm shocked, shocked that our Discovery Channel team
had a doper on it"
- "Oh by the way, I doped too, but I was too smart to
get caught"

As a lawyer, why would you expect Armstrong to say something
in a matter that he is not a party to?

Ben

Brian Lafferty said:

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant.

Dumbass,
Its not that "rbr denizens" didn't know about drug use, its just that we
don't really care all that much.

Brian Lafferty said:

Bob Schwartz said:

Brian Lafferty said:

Keith wrote:
> Basso got what he deserved
>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> too bad he might be the only one.
> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
> important to me.

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Quoted message said:

Any comment from Armstrong?

Quoted message said:

Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat
doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!

How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
minor problem?

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On Jun 16, 4:25 pm, Brian Lafferty <[email hidden]> wrote:

As a lawyer, why would you expect Armstrong to say something
in a matter that he is not a party to?

Yeah, life someone would trust Lafferty to represent them anyplace but in a
gay bathhouse.

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Brian Lafferty said:

Bob Schwartz said:

Brian Lafferty wrote:
> Keith wrote:
>> Basso got what he deserved
>>http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from...

Quoted message said:

>> too bad he might be the only one.
>> I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e.
>> until
>> 2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
>> important to me.

Quoted message said:

> Any comment from Armstrong?

Quoted message said:

Yeah. He says you're a [censored].

The only [censored] are the rbr denizens who ranted for years that the drug
problem in cycling was minor or nearly non-existant. But hey, Lance beat
doper Basso clean, right? ROTFLMAO!!

How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
minor problem?

How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to accuse
anyone without proof?

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How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
minor problem?

How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to accuse
anyone without proof?

Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted
about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain
doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that
he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for
the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9
22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a

Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one.

jyh.

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How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
minor problem?

How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to
accuse
anyone without proof?

Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted
about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain
doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that
he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for
the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9
22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a

Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one.

You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that you
were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on rumors
and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors.

LeMond cried his whole racing career about how everyone was picking on him
and he hasn't stopped yet. I like LeMond but I wouldn't give any credibility
to anything he had to say. I much prefer Indurain's method of saying what's
done is done and what is past is past.

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"SLAVE of THE STATE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
> minor problem?

How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to
accuse
anyone without proof?

Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted
about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain
doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that
he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for
the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thread/9
22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a

Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one.

You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that you
were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on rumors
and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors.

Ah, poor old Tom, always misunderstood. How hard is it to understand this:
__________________________________________

Early Indurain was easily superior because of a certain amount of, shall we
say, discreet help from medical practitioners. Later when the playing field
was leveled with availability of that drug to anyone with a wallet his wins
stilled showed his superiority but at the same sort of levels that Lance has
shown on an equally flat playing field.
__________________________________________

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/dec3896539fa9ac5

That *is* accusing Indurain without proof, Tommy. No two ways about it.

Flip. Flop.

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tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck said:

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> "SLAVE of THE STATE" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > How about those who thought there was major dopage, but that it was a
> > minor problem?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> How about those who thought it was a major problem but didn't want to
> accuse
> anyone without proof?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yes, what about such people? About a couple of months ago, I posted
about my recollection of arguing with with you in rst wrt to Indurain
doping to win the TdF (and you being the one making the accusation that
he was on the juice). Back then I did not have the time to search for
the exchange, but I have finally found it. Here it is:

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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/browse_thread/thre....
22394c4e511211/c1eae7b387bc161a?lnk=st&q=&rnum=6#c1eae7b387bc161a

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Quoted message said:

Please entertain us: Try to weasel your way out of this one.

Quoted message said:

You misunderstood me at that time and now as well. The point was that you
were willing to accept some riders whom you don't admire as dopers on rumors
and against others whom you do admire with equally invalid rumors.

Ah, poor old Tom, always misunderstood. How hard is it to understand this:
__________________________________________

Early Indurain was easily superior because of a certain amount of, shall we
say, discreet help from medical practitioners. Later when the playing field
was leveled with availability of that drug to anyone with a wallet his wins
stilled showed his superiority but at the same sort of levels that Lance has
shown on an equally flat playing field.
__________________________________________

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/dec3896539fa9ac5

That *is* accusing Indurain without proof, Tommy. No two ways about it.

You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or
motorcycles but posts forever on those groups.

As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance
was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I
claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he
went fast.

Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make
it all the more plain why you're such a loser?

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You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or
motorcycles but posts forever on those groups.

As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance
was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I
claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he
went fast.

Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make
it all the more plain why you're such a loser?

Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it.
You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again.
Thanks.

R

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You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or
motorcycles but posts forever on those groups.

As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance
was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I
claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he
went fast.

Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make
it all the more plain why you're such a loser?

Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it.
You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again.

Even after you explain what happened to them they're still too stupid to
understand it.

Everyone loved Indurain. So if you accuse Indurain of doping they're
incensed. Yet the same rooster-lipping children of unmarried mothers jump at
accusing Armstrong of the same thing and are too stupid to even notice it.

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Quoted message said:

You're really funny for someone that doesn't ride bicycles or
motorcycles but posts forever on those groups.

As I noted - somehow it was outrageous that I didn't agree that Lance
was doping BECAUSE he went fast but it offended a lot of people if I
claimed with equal validity that Indurain had to be doping because he
went fast.

Ain't it funny how your inability to understand such comparisons make
it all the more plain why you're such a loser?

Why are you torturing the language? It hurts my eyes. Stop it.
You can do better. You have done better. Do so once again.

Even after you explain what happened to them they're still too stupid to
understand it.

Everyone loved Indurain. So if you accuse Indurain of doping they're
incensed. Yet the same rooster-lipping children of unmarried mothers jump at
accusing Armstrong of the same thing and are too stupid to even notice it.

But that isn't what you did, Tom. In no way can those words be made to conform to
what you're saying they do now.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Keith said:

Basso got what he deserved
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2007/jun07/jun16news&from=rss
too bad he might be the only one.
I take it he gets banned from a ProTour for two more years, i.e. until
2010 ? Odd that the article doesn't mention that, seems pretty
important to me.

_ The Pro Tour is dead. It won't matter in 2 years. He'll have a
lifetime ban from the new "ASO" league and the UCI will be trying
to use it's "olympic" charter for skateboarding to ban people
from the X-games.

_ Booker C. Bense