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  1. Hello there,

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    I'd be grateful for any suggestions. Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Many thanks for any help.

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~
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  2. Peewiglet <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello there,

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    I'd be grateful for any suggestions. Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Many thanks for any help.

    Best wishes,

    Hello there!

    All you really need to do is keep the bike clean, especially the chain. Now
    and again clean up the rims using some meths. Keep the chain clean by
    regularly wiping it down with a rag then re oiling.

    Also a good idea to dribble some oil down the cables now and again to keep
    them moving cleanly.

    Note - WD30 is not an oil! Best to use a proper bicycle oil:

    GT85 for cables and pivots, and Finish Line Cross Country Lube for chain +
    chainrings. Apparantly chain saw oil works well too, but I can't say I've
    tried that.

    Most of all, enjoy the bike, but you may find that one won't be enough!
    :-)

    --
    Brian

  3. Peewiglet said:

    Hello there,

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    I'd be grateful for any suggestions. Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Many thanks for any help.

    Best wishes,

    These are the two sites most people are directed to in regard of bike
    maintainance.

    http://www.parktool.com/index.shtml

    and the GOD of cycle care:-

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/index.html

    Good Luck and welcome to the group.

    Sam Salt

  4. Peewiglet said:

    Hello there,

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    I'd be grateful for any suggestions. Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Many thanks for any help.

    Best wishes,

    These are the two sites most people are directed to in regard of bike
    maintainance.

    http://www.parktool.com/index.shtml

    and the GOD of cycle care:-

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/index.html

    Good Luck and welcome to the group.

    Sam Salt

  5. On 24 Mar 2005 07:20:56 GMT, Brian <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    All you really need to do is keep the bike clean, especially the chain. Now
    and again clean up the rims using some meths. Keep the chain clean by
    regularly wiping it down with a rag then re oiling.

    Also a good idea to dribble some oil down the cables now and again to keep
    them moving cleanly.

    Note - WD30 is not an oil! Best to use a proper bicycle oil:

    GT85 for cables and pivots, and Finish Line Cross Country Lube for chain +
    chainrings. Apparantly chain saw oil works well too, but I can't say I've
    tried that.

    Most of all, enjoy the bike, but you may find that one won't be enough!
    :-)

    Many thanks for your speedy reply! I'll get hold of the things you've
    suggested, and thanks for the tip about WD30 - I thought it *was* an
    oil!

    I look forward to giving my bike a nice clean tomorrow morning 🙂

    Best wishes,
    --
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  6. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 07:29:43 +0000 (UTC), "Sam Salt"
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    These are the two sites most people are directed to in regard of bike
    maintainance.

    http://www.parktool.com/index.shtml

    and the GOD of cycle care:-

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/index.html

    Good Luck and welcome to the group.

    Thank you very much! I'll go and take a look 🙂

    Best wishes,
    --
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    (**)PeeWiglet~~
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  7. Peewiglet said:

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    Will something like this work...
    http://www.lidl.co.uk/gb/index.nsf/pages/c.o.oow.20050328.p.Bicycle_Lift

    Available in Lidl from next Monday in their specials bin, note the
    unhuge price tag, they'll probably disappear quite soon.

    There are other wall mounting solutions available that get bikes out of
    the way, though if you're in extreme space shortage you're usually
    robbing Peter to pay Paul. You could always make some room by reducing
    the size of the Peewiglet Rucksack Mountain![1] ;-)

    Pete.

    [1] sorry, I know that would be heresy...
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  8. Peewiglet said:

    I look forward to giving my bike a nice clean tomorrow morning 🙂

    Wiping the chain with a rag is good enough for the occasional
    clean (like a quick cleanup after a ride), but to get the chain
    and gears really clean I recommend using degreaser. This gets
    all the accumulated road crud off very easily.

    You can get this at most bike shops. A handy tool for scrubbing the
    chain and gears is an old toothbrush.

    After degreasing, rinse everything off, let it dry and give all
    the moving parts a decent oiling. As you've got a stand, after oiling
    the chain, turn the pedals to let the oil penetrate and then wipe
    off the excess. Excess oil will attract and mix with more nasty
    black road muck, which means you'll have to clean it again sooner!

    --
    jc

    Remove the -not from email

  9. Following on from Peewiglet's message. . .

    Quoted message said:

    Hello there,
    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to


    * There is standard advice for new cyclists: By the book Cyclecraft by
    John Franklin. A really good way to spend a tenner.

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.


    *This will be a /major/ problem as it will spend a lot of its time with
    condensation on it - ie covered in a film of water. 🙁

    *Your local bike shop (LBS) should be able to suggest proper lubricants
    and show you where to give a squirt. (Plain oil is not really ideal.)

    * After the first 100 miles or so a new bike should be checked over for
    tightness and adjustments. - See LBS.

    --
    PETER FOX Not the same since the deckchair business folded
    [email hidden]
    www.eminent.demon.co.uk/wcc.htm Witham Cycling Campaign
    www.eminent.demon.co.uk/rides East Anglian Pub cycle rides

  10. Peewiglet said:

    Many thanks for your speedy reply! I'll get hold of the things you've
    suggested, and thanks for the tip about WD30 - I thought it *was* an
    oil!

    WD40 is a water dispersant. Hence the name. :-)

    R.

  11. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:45:38 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hello there,

    Hello. I am sure you'll enjoy cycling and urc. I've always found
    your posts next door in urw informative and helpful. I'm sure you'll
    have a good experience here.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    A drop of oil every now and then on moving parts and a weekly
    tightening of nuts and bolts, and an annual brake and gear service at
    your local bike shop should keep it in good working order.

    It should have a service after about 6 weeks.

  12. Peewiglet said:

    Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Haynes Bike Book:
    <url:http://tinyurl.com/3lheg>

    and/or whichever of the Zinn And The Art Of... books is appropriate:
    <url:http://tinyurl.com/4adjp>
    <url:http://tinyurl.com/4y9n2>

    I have the Haynes book and it's fine, though the Zinn books are
    generally reckoned to be the business. But tbh you can't go far wrong
    with Sheldon Brown's website and the Park Tools website, as already
    mentioned.

    d.

  13. On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 06:45:38 +0000, Peewiglet <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Hello there,

    Hello 🙂

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    The good news is that most bike related jobs are pretty simple, even
    if you aren't (currently) very mechanically minded. There are
    excellent online resources available, two of which I see Sam has
    already pointed you towards. Even better, between us here in the group
    we've already cocked up and bungled every bike job imaginable, and so
    can offer you solid advice on which silly mistakes to avoid.

    Ongoing maintenance is really not much of a chore. On a bike of modest
    quality most of the sensitive parts should be reasonably well sealed
    against the elements, so as long as you don't jet wash it or take it
    bog snorkeling it will look after itself most of the time. Your main
    priority will be to keep the drivetrain in good clean shape (the
    chain, cogs and gear changers). The rest of the bike can collect as
    much grime and road [censored] as is wise in your particular area for added
    theft deterrent purposes.

    If the bike is new the chain will have a coating of good oil on it for
    the moment and should be fine for a little while but after that you'll
    want to oil it every now and then. The more often you ride in wet
    conditions the more often you should apply oil. As others have
    mentioned, don't be too heavy handed with the oil, less is more. Oil,
    let it soak in, wipe off excess.

    Does the bike have mudguards? If not, think about fitting some.
    They'll not only keep you much drier and cleaner when out in the wet,
    but will do the same for the drivetrain, meaning you have to clean it
    less often. The front wheel kicks up a stream of spray right onto the
    chain and front rings and a proper mudguard stops that.

    Quoted message said:

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    This isn't ideal, as I'm sure you know. Lots of us don't have garages
    either, so the bikes live in halls, kitchens, front rooms and even
    boudoirs... this really isn't an option for you?

    If the bike has to stay outside then it is going to be more
    susceptible to things sticking and seizing. Hopefully the shop you
    bought it from did a proper job of setting the bike up, and that will
    mean that components like stem and seatpost, as well as many of the
    fastener threads will have been greased prior to assembly. This is
    important on a bike that will be living outside, and it might save you
    some ball ache in the future you to double check that now. We'lll
    gladly help out with some pointers if you need a bit of advice on
    this. I'd also be tempted to get some grease into most moving bits of
    a bike that is going to have to live outside. Brake pivot points,
    levers, derailleurs etc. This sort of thing should have been done at
    factory and shop, but it's often not, even on expensive machines.

    Finally, if it's outside don't forget the bloody huge lock you'll need
    to keep it safe.

    And the lion, obviously.

    --

    "Bob"

    Email address is spam trapped.
    To reply directly remove the beverage.

  14. Call me Bob said:

    The rest of the bike can collect as
    much grime and road [censored] as is wise in your particular area for added
    theft deterrent purposes.

    Caveat: come next winter if the roads have been gritted it /is/ worth
    cleaning off that sort of road [censored] because salt corrodes stuff rather
    effectively :-(
    I even washed the car a couple of weeks ago to dispense with it's salt
    crusting!

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  15. Peewiglet said:

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    My advice is to park it in your house/flat if you possibly can. I
    appreciate the inconvenience that can cause but it really does extend the
    life of the bike and cut down on maintenance.

    Othwerwise, keep it clean and well lubed (particularly the chain)... and
    well ridden! :-) You mention rust, well, hopefully your new bike will
    have less steel on it to rust. Alumnium corrosion can still be a problem
    sometimes, though.

    To prevent seizure, remove, regrease* and refit seatpost, handlebar stem**
    and pedals at least twice a year, and perhaps sooner rather than later for
    the first time in case they weren't greased intially.

    * with general-purpose waterproof grease

    ** if tradtional quill or threaded type (see Park Tools)

    ~PB

  16. "Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello there,

    I'm a new cyclist, and have just bought a new bike. I don't want it to
    get rusty and miserable like my last one, and I'm wondering what I
    need to do to it on a regular basis to keep it in decent, happy
    condition. I'm not a mechanically minded person - I'm hopeless with
    cars - so none of this stuff is second nature to me.

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I don't have
    a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a little stand and a
    cover.

    I'd be grateful for any suggestions. Perhaps there's a book I should
    look out?

    Many thanks for any help.

    Best wishes,
    --
    ,,
    (**)PeeWiglet~~

    Hi PeeWiglet

    Welcome to uk.rec.cycling. We've met on uk.rec.walking :o) Are you planning
    some epic journeys on two wheels also? :o)

    --
    Regards, Paul (R)
    My Lake District walking site:
    www.lakelandwalker.co.uk

  17. Peter Clinch said:


    There are other wall mounting solutions available that get bikes out of
    the way, though if you're in extreme space shortage you're usually
    robbing Peter to pay Paul. You could always make some room by reducing
    the size of the Peewiglet Rucksack Mountain![1] ;-)

    Pete.

    [1] sorry, I know that would be heresy...

    Don't get her started - she'll be needing a new tent to take the bike
    soon!

    I have a similar problem with my bike. It's in the shed but the shed
    is chockablock with all sorts of rubbish, so I can't just wheel the
    bike in and out. Perhaps if I got rid of my other bike?! (But that's
    not been ridden for at least ten years and I doubt I could sell it
    ...... and I can't bring myself to throw it away.)

    Judith

  18. Peter Clinch said:
    Peewiglet said:

    Unfortunately the bike currently has to live outside, as I
    don't have a garage or a shed. However, I've bought it a
    little stand and a cover.

    Will something like this work...
    http://www.lidl.co.uk/gb/index.nsf/pages/c.o.oow.20050328.p.Bicycle_Lift

    Available in Lidl from next Monday in their specials bin, note
    the unhuge price tag, they'll probably disappear quite soon.

    At 3.99GBP I'm sure they will disappear quickly. The new EBC catalogue has a
    similar solution at 39.95GBP.
    --
    Mark

    1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.

  19. Judith said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are other wall mounting solutions available that get bikes out of
    the way, though if you're in extreme space shortage you're usually
    robbing Peter to pay Paul. You could always make some room by reducing
    the size of the Peewiglet Rucksack Mountain![1] ;-)

    Pete.

    [1] sorry, I know that would be heresy...

    Quoted message said:

    Don't get her started - she'll be needing a new tent to take the bike
    soon!

    Well, there's panniers. And cool foldable tool sets. A jacket for every
    type of weather. A pump for at home and one for on the road. And then you
    find out you need a folder as well. And a trailer. And a recumbent. And a
    house with a shed.

    BTW, ever tried sea kayaking? :-)

    Roos

  20. Roos Eisma said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't get her started - she'll be needing a new tent to take the bike
    soon!

    Well, there's panniers. And cool foldable tool sets. A jacket for every
    type of weather. A pump for at home and one for on the road. And then you
    find out you need a folder as well. And a trailer. And a recumbent. And a
    house with a shed.

    Oh please! Stop!

    I've been lurking here for a week and am being reminded of how much I
    want a new bike. I've wanted what I would call a Tourer for so many
    years. I mean a bike that I can load up with my camping gear and do a
    bit of travelling round the country. It might sound odd but I'd like
    to pedal the length of the A41 one day.

    Unfortunately there are other things that I need to spend my money on,
    so the bike stays on the wish list. I shall make do with my old,
    3rd-hand, 3-speed (Sturmey Archer) bone-shaker.

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, ever tried sea kayaking? :-)

    I consider it every time Knoydart send me their catalogue!

    Judith

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