Baron vs. Cobra questions

I haven't tried the Cobra, and after spending a year racing on a variety of surfaces with the Baron,
I'd reckon that unless one were routinely riding on Dutch fietspads, the extra weight, cost and
complication of the suspension isn't worth it. The Baron rides very smoothly, a corollary of its
lengthy wheelbase.

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I haven't tried the Cobra, and after spending a year racing on a variety of surfaces with the
Baron, I'd reckon that unless one were routinely riding on Dutch fietspads, the extra weight, cost
and complication of the suspension isn't worth it. The Baron rides very smoothly, a corollary of
its lengthy wheelbase.

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Like Dave, I haven't tried a Cobra either. I do not race, at least not formally, but I have ridden a
Baron for two seasons, on real roads, and find the ride a bit stiff, but not at all uncomfortable. I
would not want any suspension for the same reasons stated by Dave.

Harry Jiles

harryo said:

Like Dave, I haven't tried a Cobra either. I do not race, at least not formally, but I have ridden
a Baron for two seasons, on real roads, and find the ride a bit stiff, but not at all
uncomfortable. I would not want any suspension for the same reasons stated by Dave.

Harry Jiles

The one former Cobra owner I know is now riding a Razz-Fazz [1] and appreciates the 20 lb. (9 kgf)
weight difference.

[1] Both have rear suspension.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) Various HPV's

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The one former Cobra owner I know is now riding a Razz-Fazz [1] and appreciates the 20 lb. (9 kgf)
weight difference.

[1] Both have rear suspension.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) Various HPV's

Larry kindly loaned me his Cobra for the Barrington Hills ride in late May 2002. I wasn't able to
keep up with the fastest riders on that ride but don't attibute this to the weight of the Cobra. The
ride was smooth but I would have preferred the bike to weigh less if I was riding on real hills like
the steep ones we have in Northern California. For descending such hills at speed on rough roads I
would prefer the suspension of the Cobra for safety, control, comfort and to keep my vision blur
free. Thus a carbon fibre Cobra clone would be very nice assuming the quality control was kept to
high standards. BTW, I did have a brief ride on Larry's Razz-Fazz and was impressed with the way it
rode. I'd like to obtain one of these or something similar some day.

Zach Kaplan

Thanks all for the advice, particularly Larry for an enlightening conversation. As of now, I think I
don't ride enough bad roads to justify the weight (and possibly the expense) of the Cobra.

Craig