Barking dogs don't bite...

I picked up a Doggy Bone Bomb.

This is a very popular device in the middle east.

Looks like a dog bone. But? It is a bomb.

It attaches to the handle bar ,, when the pouch starts to make his move, you
yell "here fido,, have a bone".

Throw the Doggy Bone Bomb to the dog. Fido will go for it every time. Once
he/she bites into the bone, you have
2 minutes to make your escape. Then it is KaPlow.

Kaboom,,

Don't hang out to see if the DBB works. I did once, and when Fido went
by-do, there were bits and pieces of
fur, paw, etc flying all over. The head landed on the car parked nearby.
What a mess.

If Fido grabs the DBB and runs into his owner's home, you should be well on
your way.

A fellow in England blew up half the neighborhood ..

hope this helps

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"Fer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is the
best solution?

Thanks, Fer

Quoted message said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is the
best solution?

Thanks, Fer

I have had great success lately with picking up a water bottle and holding
it threatenly over my head in the position of preparing to throw the bottle
at the dog (while yelling "no" or "bad dog"😉. Evidently a dog who would
chase a cyclist has had rocks thrown at him and to the dog, this gesture
appears to indicate another rock is coming his way. I was amazed the first
time I did this, because I was thinking, "If I have to throw this bottle, I
just lost a good bottle because there is no way I am stopping to retrieve
it."

Pat in TX

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Fer said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?

When I was little, my friend's dog once growled at me but wagged his
tail at the same time. I asked my friend if his dog would bite and he
said, "depends on which end you believe." :-)

I've had good luck with large dogs when I shout "Ayy!" in a menacing
voice -- the same way I get my own dogs to stop what they're doing.
The only real problem I've had with dogs was when I was attacked by
three "killer" Chihuahuas. They ran out in front of me on a suburban
street, so I stopped to avoid crashing and to allow the (clueless)
owner to corral them.

Only she didn't have any leashes. So we spent the next ~5 minutes
with me trying to head off down the street; then I'd have to stop to
avoid endo-ing over a dog that managed to escape; then she'd run
around like a headless chicken rounding them up again.

Those damned things didn't respond to anything -- not my "Ayy!", not
water from my bottles, not even when I waved my frame pump around.
Finally the owner got a grip on all three of them and I sprinted away
before she could lose one again.

-JR

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Fer said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?

When I was little, my friend's dog once growled at me but wagged his
tail at the same time. I asked my friend if his dog would bite and he
said, "depends on which end you believe." :-)

I've had good luck with large dogs when I shout "Ayy!" in a menacing
voice -- the same way I get my own dogs to stop what they're doing.
The only real problem I've had with dogs was when I was attacked by
three "killer" Chihuahuas. They ran out in front of me on a suburban
street, so I stopped to avoid crashing and to allow the (clueless)
owner to corral them.

Only she didn't have any leashes. So we spent the next ~5 minutes
with me trying to head off down the street; then I'd have to stop to
avoid endo-ing over a dog that managed to escape; then she'd run
around like a headless chicken rounding them up again.

Those damned things didn't respond to anything -- not my "Ayy!", not
water from my bottles, not even when I waved my frame pump around.
Finally the owner got a grip on all three of them and I sprinted away
before she could lose one again.

-JR

Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at barking
dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive the spray
stops them in their tracks.

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Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at
barking dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive
the spray stops them in their tracks.

ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.

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ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.

Please don't spray ammonia! Ammonia will cause a blinding corneal
burn. It is absolutely the worse thing to get in your eye. It will
remove the corneal epithelium, coagulate the limbal blood vessels so
the epithelium won't heal. It continues to penetrate the cornea
damaging the trabecular meshwork leading to intractable glaucoma. The
treatment is immediate voluminous irrigation, then combinations of
steroids and things then eventually a corneal transplant that will not
survive because of the vascularity of the host cornea. If it gets in
the dog's eyes he will be blind and miserable for quite a long time.
Be more compassionate. Use pepper spray or the bone bomb or
something.

Ted

Pat said:

Quoted message said:

Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at
barking dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive
the spray stops them in their tracks.

ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.

For a while, when living in doggy hell (northwest Georgia) I tried
swinging pumps, and swinging a car radio antenna. No good at all.

I then tried squirt guns and spray bottles filled with noxious
fluids. "Halt" brand dog spray in the pressurized can works far, far
better. It would have been my weapon of choice against Slowrider's
problem chihuahuas.

For really serious dog-problem areas (like NW Georgia) I found a few
rocks in the handlebar bag were even more effective. Better range,
less problems with wind, and often effective even if I missed. I
trained many dogs using that method.

It takes some practice to throw accurately from a moving bike, but the
practice was kind of fun.

But before a dog ever comes out, I can often out-psyche them by
glaring at them and visualizing intense doggy harm, and by yelling
sternly if necessary. They respond to self confidence as well as to
fear.

- Frank Krygowski

I tried encouraging one once while going up hill, yelling "come on,
keep running, come on, good dog"... God, what a stupid dog. It
actually worked. He would stop while I was calling him looking rather
confused. Then when I would stop and turn my head away he would start
in again. I think the bone bomb sounds good.

Ted.

Ted said:

Quoted message said:

ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.

Please don't spray ammonia! Ammonia will cause a blinding corneal
burn. It is absolutely the worse thing to get in your eye. It will

....

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Be more compassionate. Use pepper spray or the bone bomb or
something.

At least as far as I'm concerned, compassion ends when one tries to
assault me. Whatever ensures the attack will not be repeated.

I'm lucky. I've only suffered a broken collarbone from loose dogs. There
have been at least three passers-by *killed* by loose dogs in this area
(rural Middle Tennessee) in the last year. Many owners do not believe
their dogs attack, and will not keep them off the road even after learning
they have sent people to the hospital.

I suppose the more humane thing would be to shoot the dogs. I don't think
one could reliably hit a rapidly-moving small dog with a handgun, and
carrying a shotgun on a bicycle does not strike me as practical.

I think the bone bomb sounds good.

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Ted.

I first thought that the bone bomb was't meant serious...
Now I am afraid it is...
If the dogs are such big problem I wonder why there are no actions to
remove the dogs like criminals...

Ted said:

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ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.

Please don't spray ammonia! Ammonia will cause a blinding corneal
burn. It is absolutely the worse thing to get in your eye. It will
remove the corneal epithelium, coagulate the limbal blood vessels so
the epithelium won't heal. It continues to penetrate the cornea
damaging the trabecular meshwork leading to intractable glaucoma. The
treatment is immediate voluminous irrigation, then combinations of
steroids and things then eventually a corneal transplant that will not
survive because of the vascularity of the host cornea. If it gets in
the dog's eyes he will be blind and miserable for quite a long time.
Be more compassionate. Use pepper spray or the bone bomb or
something.

Ted

I agree.

I have had very good success with using my water bottle and squirting
plain water at the dogs I have been chased by. They really hate
that. You don't have to hit them directly either. Just the sight of
the water stream can confuse and scare a mongrel bike chaser.

Fritz said:

I have had very good success with using my water bottle and squirting
plain water at the dogs I have been chased by. They really hate
that. You don't have to hit them directly either. Just the sight of
the water stream can confuse and scare a mongrel bike chaser.

The problem with plain water is that it only works temporarily. As soon
as you stop squirting, the dogs come right back.

If you're riding in Tennessee and it's 90 degrees with 70% humidity, you
can't afford to be wasting your entire supply of water defending yourself
from the same dogs every day. You need something that will teach the dogs
PERMANENTLY to stop messing with bikes.

Doug Smith W9WI said:

Fritz said:

I have had very good success with using my water bottle and squirting
plain water at the dogs I have been chased by. They really hate
that. You don't have to hit them directly either. Just the sight of
the water stream can confuse and scare a mongrel bike chaser.

The problem with plain water is that it only works temporarily. As soon
as you stop squirting, the dogs come right back.

In my experience one little squirt of water convinces the dog to lay
off for enough time for me to make my get away. Usually he just
backs off anyway and lets me go on my way.

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If you're riding in Tennessee and it's 90 degrees with 70% humidity, you
can't afford to be wasting your entire supply of water defending yourself

Plan ahead. Know your water sources and carrry more water if need
be.

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from the same dogs every day. You need something that will teach the dogs
PERMANENTLY to stop messing with bikes.

I would think about changing my bike ride route if I encountered the
same dog every day on the same route. I would certainly make it known
to the authorities that there is a proplem dog in the area. There are
laws concerning loose dogs. At least in civilized areas of the
country.

Fritz said:

I would think about changing my bike ride route if I encountered the
same dog every day on the same route. I would certainly make it known
to the authorities that there is a proplem dog in the area. There are
laws concerning loose dogs. At least in civilized areas of the
country.

I agree about all the above except for the first sentence. I used to
make sure I'd repeatedly ride by aggressive dogs. I was ready for
them, and I'd eventually train them to let me (and my family, and
other cyclists) pass unmolested.

The only reason I don't do that now is because now I do live in a much
more civilized area of the country. It's no longer necessary.

- Frank Krygowski

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The problem with plain water is that it only works temporarily. As soon
as you stop squirting, the dogs come right back.

In my experience one little squirt of water convinces the dog to lay
off for enough time for me to make my get away. Usually he just
backs off anyway and lets me go on my way.

Be careful what dog!

Our dog postively jumps for joy when hit with a squirt of water, begs
us to shoot the hose directly at him, and sits at our kids soccer
games hoping to be squirted by their bottles.

Do this to him and you'll likely find he speeds up for another squirt.

He's definitely not the norm though...

Fer said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?

Thanks, Fer

Yell loudly Get Off The Couch

If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
by thier owners.

"Mike A Schwab" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Fer said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?

Thanks, Fer

Yell loudly Get Off The Couch

If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
by thier owners.

I learned that in this newsgroup, and it works. "Get off the sofa!" might be
better in some regions of the US. It's just enough to confuse the dumb mutt
and slow him down so you can sprint away. Doesn't work for an attack dog,
but just the loopy dog in a rural area - sure.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

If riding in Wellesley, Mass ..

It is get off the dog futon which was purchased at doggy world for $900
dollars..

Then:::

Shoot em as they turn around.

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"Mike A Schwab" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Fer said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?

Thanks, Fer

Yell loudly Get Off The Couch

If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
by thier owners.

I learned that in this newsgroup, and it works. "Get off the sofa!" might
be better in some regions of the US. It's just enough to confuse the dumb
mutt and slow him down so you can sprint away. Doesn't work for an attack
dog, but just the loopy dog in a rural area - sure.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

fer

be very careful when riding in rural areas of the west--i have been bitten
by 2 dogs--jumped out with no warning--i have found pepper spray works but
make sure of wind direction--my friend who rides in montana ( as i do)
carries a pistol--some of the dogs are really viscious--also be extremely
careful when riding in rural towns as owneres sometimes put extremely
violent dogs in their pickup beds ( almost had my throat gashed by 2
Dobbermans)

keep the dog repellant instantly available

hth

peter

"Fer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is the
best solution?

Thanks, Fer