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  1. I found this on another forum. Allegedly it came from Cycling Weekly - but
    I haven't check on the authenticity. Even if it's a spoof, it's an
    interesting idea:

    ----------- 8< ---------------
    Following research by Dr Ian Walker of Bath University which concluded that
    drivers give you less clearance if you wear a helmet a recent experience of
    mine suggests a better alternative!

    Myself, my wife and my son cycled to a pizza restaurant to celebrate his
    10th birthday where we were give silver helium filled balloons to take home
    with us. After the meal, we decided to tie these to the back of my bike and
    I led the way home. When we arrived my wife commented that all the cars
    were really slowing down and giving a wide clearance, presumably because of
    the balloons attached to my bike.

    So although not wearing a helmet apparently may cause a driver not to give
    you any room or space, what seems to be the biggest concern for passing
    drivers is not how likely they are to hit the cyclist - but whether or not
    the car will be hit by a balloon!

  2. Response to Will Cove:

    Sounds like an application of the theory of BIG, as proposed by David
    Martin of this parish -

    http://www.martin-family.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BIG.html

    I've noticed a similar effect when cycling home from the
    pantomime with a flashing Magic Wand sticking out of my rucksac.

    According to research, drivers are inclined to give less room to
    cyclists they perceive as predictable: the corollary would imply that if
    one looks sufficiently like a nutter, one will be given more room.

    H****ts are seen as an indicator of predictability, and therefore may
    incline drivers to drive more closely. Of course, one can combine them
    with balloons:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/airbag-helmet.html

    --
    Mark, UK
    "My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right."

  3. Will Cove said:


    So although not wearing a helmet apparently may cause a driver not to
    give you any room or space, what seems to be the biggest concern for
    passing drivers is not how likely they are to hit the cyclist - but
    whether or not the car will be hit by a balloon!

    I seem to remember reading on a website (I've just googled for it and can't
    find the link) about a group of people who were slowing traffic on a back
    street by tying balloons to sticks/manhole covers in the middle of the
    street, and noticed that drivers would slow down to walking pace and go
    around them rather than drive over one.

    As Mark pointed out, this conforms to David Martin's theory of Big.
    Anything unusual/out of the ordinary gets treated with the utmost caution,
    out of proportion to the danger it represents.

    Tom
    --
    Return address is dead. Real address is at
    http://www.happy-penguin.info/address.jpg

  4. All this is great but gives us one depressing message - drivers care
    more about pretty balloons than they do cyclists!

  5. Quoted message said:

    All this is great but gives us one depressing message - drivers care
    more about pretty balloons than they do cyclists!

    That is one interpretation, yes.

    Another interpretation is that it snaps drivers out of their autopilot
    mode, brought on by the 'illusion of safeness' created by the
    over-regulated road environment we have given to them. Something
    unexpected or not covered by the road rules returns them to manual mode,
    where they have to think for themselves again, and take full
    responsibility for their own actions.

    This is the same principle that makes full road de-regulation so
    successful as a safety policy. It removes all safety cues, meaning that
    drivers (and other road users) cannot lapse into a complacency induced
    trance whilst using the roads - they cannot rely on others giving way to
    them as they do with the rule-based system.

    --
    Matt B

  6. [email hidden] wrote in news:1168603617.739588.196370
    @s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    All this is great but gives us one depressing message - drivers care
    more about pretty balloons than they do cyclists!

    To me it suggests the need for driver education and that government "road
    safety" effort is somewhat misdirected.

    In the meantime, I have to live with what we've got right now. David
    Martin's theory goes some way to explain why motorists give me so much more
    room when I'm towing a trailer and suggests a strategy to coerce motorists
    into giving me adequate space when I'm not.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    All this is great but gives us one depressing message - drivers care
    more about pretty balloons than they do cyclists!


    It's not about caring, or even about noticing - it's about prompting
    them to disengage autopilot and actually think about what they are doing
    and what's going on around them. If all cyclists had balloons then the
    drivers' autopilots would be programmed to deal with them and we'd be
    back to square one.

  8. Rob Morley said:

    If all cyclists had balloons then the
    drivers' autopilots would be programmed to deal with them and we'd be
    back to square one.

    Ditto hi-visibility clothing

    -dan

    --
    http://www.coruskate.net/

  9. Will Cove said:


    David
    Martin's theory goes some way to explain why motorists give me so much more
    room when I'm towing a trailer and suggests a strategy to coerce motorists
    into giving me adequate space when I'm not.

    Which thread was "David Martin's" theory in?

    --
    Matt B

  10. Matt B <[email hidden]> wrote in news:50phl5F1h5v0nU2
    @mid.individual.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Which thread was "David Martin's" theory in?

    This one. See Mark McNeill's reply to my original post.

    Alternatively, here's a direct link to David's page:
    http://www.martin-family.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BIG.html

  11. Will Cove said:

    Matt B <[email hidden]> wrote in news:50phl5F1h5v0nU2
    @mid.individual.net:

    Quoted message said:

    Which thread was "David Martin's" theory in?

    This one. See Mark McNeill's reply to my original post.

    Ah yes - thanks. I was looking for a DM reply!

    --
    Matt B

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, Daniel Barlow
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    Rob Morley said:

    If all cyclists had balloons then the
    drivers' autopilots would be programmed to deal with them and we'd be
    back to square one.

    Ditto hi-visibility clothing


    Not really - there's a difference between being seen and then ignored
    (it's just a bike) and not being seen (what was that bump?).

  13. in message <[email hidden]>, Daniel Barlow

    (') said:
    Rob Morley said:

    If all cyclists had balloons then the
    drivers' autopilots would be programmed to deal with them and we'd be
    back to square one.

    Ditto hi-visibility clothing

    Worse: the ones in hi-vis would be seen but ignored, and drivers wouldn't
    even bother to look for cyclists not in hi-vis.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Morning had broken, and there was nothing left for us to do
    but pick up the pieces.

  14. Simon Brooke wrote on 13/01/2007 10:14 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    Worse: the ones in hi-vis would be seen but ignored, and drivers wouldn't
    even bother to look for cyclists not in hi-vis.

    Not true. Hi-vis leads to SMIDSYs so often that it is nicknamed urban
    camouflage whereas motorists complain all the time about the number of
    unlit dark clothed cyclists they've seen. ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "...has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least
    wildly inaccurate..."
    Douglas Adams; The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

  15. Mark McNeill said:

    Response to Will Cove:

    Quoted message said:

    According to research, drivers are inclined to give less room to
    cyclists they perceive as predictable: the corollary would imply that if
    one looks sufficiently like a nutter, one will be given more room.

    My observations on this are that if I deliberately wobble the front wheel
    a bit or even just stand up on the pedals as a car approaches from behind,
    the motorist gives you much, much more room. As Will says, you seem
    unpredictable.

    Similarly, when circumstances demand (eg narrow road, approaching a bend,
    etc) I have found that spitting sideways into the path of the car (not
    *at* the car I hasten to add) also causes them to slow dramatically and
    see you as a tired (and rude/objectionable/unsavoury - delete as
    appropriate) human being rather than just a 'bike'. Obviously this does
    not work on busy main roads where the saliva reserves will quickly run
    dry :-)

    Cheers
    Noel

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