bad name for cyclists

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

Simon Bennett said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

Couldn't have been one of us though ...
"But there is nothing like having a podgy, middle-class sociopath leave
cycle-shaped bruises on your arms and legs to change your mind."
All the best
Dan Gregory

Dan Gregory said:

"But there is nothing like having a podgy, middle-class sociopath
leave cycle-shaped bruises on your arms and legs to change your mind."

Alas, Summer is the season of the part-time cyclist.

Simon Bennett said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

And fully justified by the sound of it.

pk

Dan Gregory said:

"But there is nothing like having a podgy, middle-class sociopath leave
cycle-shaped bruises on your arms and legs to change your mind."

What a wonderful demonstration of size, class and mental health based
discrimination by the paper that champions liberal attitudes.

--
Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

Simon Bennett came up with the following;:

Quoted message said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

But it does appear she has some justification in what she's saying.

--
Paul ...
(8(|) Homer Rules ..... Doh !!!

personally like the 'must receive training on pavement/road distinction' How are we upposed to do that with councils keep painting white lines on pavements and calling them 'cycling facilities', and motorists shouting 'get off the road'.

Oh well I'll just continue on my way down the road, stopping at red lights, give way signs etc etc

Bryan

"p.k." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Simon Bennett said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

And fully justified by the sound of it.

No. Not at all. Rant about pavement cyclists and others breaking the
existing laws, yes, but to demand the imposition of cycle registration etc
is as previously discussed not justified at all.

clive

This woman drives to work every day (Kentish Town to Farringdon),
according to a Guardian source. I wonder if she would be forthcoming if
we asked where this happened...

p.k. said:

Simon Bennett said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

(last paragraph of column)

Bit of a rant, isn't it?

And fully justified by the sound of it.

There is a rant that would have been fully justified by the events as
reported but it is not the one written. She extrapolates from the
indefensible[1] behaviour of one cyclist that "too many" cyclists have
an attitude problem and that this will result in similar behavior by
them and concludes that this justifies licensing and registration.

I am not convinced that rudeness in London is the preserve of cyclists
nor even that they are over represented. The perception that
anti-social cycling is a problem requiring some sort of specific
solution probably comes from a combination of lazy columnists and from
direct experience arising at least partly from cycling's rising modal
share in London. Whether cyclists in London are now more likely to
cycle anti-socially or even whether the increase in absolute numbers
means that anti-social cycling justifies any sort of targetted
response, I do not have enough information to judge.

best wishes
james

[1] I am making an assumption that she has objectively abd fairly
summarised the circumstances

p.k. said:

And fully justified by the sound of it.

The rant is justified, the conclusion isn't.

d.

Dan Gregory said:

Couldn't have been one of us though ...
"But there is nothing like having a podgy, middle-class sociopath leave
cycle-shaped bruises on your arms and legs to change your mind."

Er, that would be a good description of me, up to and including the
sociopath bit. I didn't hit her, though. :-)

R.

In article <[email hidden]>, Simon Bennett

() said:

Dan Gregory said:

"But there is nothing like having a podgy, middle-class sociopath
leave cycle-shaped bruises on your arms and legs to change your mind."

Alas, Summer is the season of the part-time cyclist.

Summer?

(Googles)

Nope, don't think we've had one of those in 2006.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Mr. Charles Kennedy (Krankieburgh): Would the Prime Minister care to
comment on a report in today's Guardian that he: "arrived late for a
meeting with Jacques Chirac, smelling of alcohol, and with body language
suggesting a total disregard for the rights of ethnic minorities, lone
parents and laboratory animals"?

Dave Larrington said:

Summer?

(Googles)

Nope, don't think we've had one of those in 2006.

Good grief, man. We're in the middle of a drought, or hadn't you
noticed?

--
Dave...

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

Who's Howard Peel?He seems to know a thing or two.
TerryJ

On 26/05/2006 17:05, dkahn400 said,

Quoted message said:

Good grief, man. We're in the middle of a drought, or hadn't you
noticed?

I assume that was spoken tongue in cheek.

Splosh!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

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Quoted message said:

Who's Howard Peel?He seems to know a thing or two.
TerryJ

he had six brothers, didn't he. He could hold a tune too, IIRC. No, no...
that was his near relative, Howard Keel...

Cheers, helen s

jonestl said:

bugbear said:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1782378,00.html

Who's Howard Peel?He seems to know a thing or two. TerryJ

His *very* comprehensive website on cycling facilities is here:
http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/thebikezone/bike1.html

He also reads and posts here, but using a nom de usenet.

Mike

On 26 May 2006 09:05:21 -0700, "dkahn400" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Dave Larrington said:

Summer?

(Googles)

Nope, don't think we've had one of those in 2006.

Good grief, man. We're in the middle of a drought, or hadn't you
noticed?

I didn't notice the drought while I was emptying water out of my
shoes at work on wednesday morning...