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  1. Today I tried for the 2nd time to egg more speed out of my Coker for
    some distance riding. Bad idea! Although the speed did improve about
    5mph(for estimated total of 15mph), the unstableness and the effort put
    in(for control) is unacceptable. During the ride, I felt at any moment
    I would experience a painful UPD. So, I've decided 110' are the best
    choice when I need speed. Lesson learned. Does anyone want to buy a
    slightly used 89' cranks? 🙄

    For tomorrow, I MUni so back to my 170' tonight! 😄

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  2. Wow. Eighty nine foot cranks are really long. How do you pedal with
    cranks that long? The one hundred ten footers must have been even
    harder.

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  3. I'm convinced that 125 mm is the best size crank for an experienced
    coker rider. I had 114 mm during my Denmark unitur and it was OK, but
    since they were pretty short it was actually harder and slower to go
    down hills because of having less control.

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  4. I've only ridden with 150s and 170s. the 150s are great all around, and
    the 170s are good for hill riding. I want to try the 125s sometime,
    though....
    didn't Brian M once put 44mm cranks on his coker once, and film it? it
    was awesome.

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  5. harper said:

    Wow. Eighty nine foot cranks are really long. How do you pedal with
    cranks that long? The one hundred ten footers must have been even
    harder.

    hahaha, whenever I see people (including myself) accidentally confuse
    feet and inches I think of the movie "This is Spinal Tap".

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  6. i went from 150's to 125s.. i cant feel much of a lose of control . and
    i can feel a little bit of a speed difference.. but it is just so much
    more smoothe i like the 125s

    Chase

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  7. I have only tried 89mm cranks on a 29er and it was quite fun because it
    was challenging at first. I plan on getting 150 mm cranks for my
    (future) coker because I will be using it on campus and on mountainous
    roads, but once I get a brake I might go down to 125s.

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  8. siafirede said:

    ... I think of the movie "This is Spinal Tap".

    I got that for Christmas!

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    tyler says:

    sorry about my obtuse post. i'll try not to anymore but this is jc

    i'm the one that looks like pam anderson

    don't worry i'm not a nerd

    if you had the mental capacity to ignore me you'd have never had this
    little turd in your life's toilet

    this again is going to sound like asking forgiveness
    but i really will stop this and i get the picture.i definitely
    understand and i will think before posting from now on

    sorry for the pointless thread but it's kind of a trend now
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  9. i feel your pain but you have the wrong solution....the correct one is
    to annex the Coker and put the 89's on a 29er or 26er.

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  10. What about 102mm then? I'm planning to try those next.

    Quoted message said:

    Wow. Eighty nine foot cranks are really long. How do you pedal with
    cranks that long? The one hundred ten footers must have been even
    harder.

    That's why I love good ol' Harper :<

    Quoted message said:

    I'm convinced that 125 mm is the best size crank for an experienced
    coker rider. I had 114 mm during my Denmark unitur and it was OK, but
    since they were pretty short it was actually harder and slower to go
    down hills because of having less control.

    I'm going down hills quite fast on my 114's (Holland is quite a flat
    land though) and I have plenty of control on it, 114 is my only crank
    size, so I can't judge if you have more control on 125's.

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  11. leadpan said:

    Today I tried for the 2nd time to egg more speed out of my Coker for
    some distance riding. Bad idea! Although the speed did improve about
    5mph(for estimated total of 15mph), the unstableness and the effort put
    in(for control) is unacceptable.

    That's quite ambiguous. Did your speed improve by 5 mph *TO *15 mph,
    or *FROM *15 mph?

    I have occasionally hit a top speed (as shown on the computer) of 16
    mph on the Coker, on the flat, on 150mm cranks, and 15 mph is fairly
    easily achievable. 125s would be a little bit quicker, at the expense
    of some control. If I became acclimatized to 125s, I would then find
    110s a little bit quicker, at the expense of some control.

    Any sudden change by two or more sizes is likely to give you mixed
    results. I still find it confuses me to change from the MUni to the
    Coker or the 700c - it takes a while to get used to the different feel.
    I took the 700c down to 89s and found it perfectly rideable but
    stopping distances were of oil-tankerian proportions. I had 102s at
    one time and found that gave me the best consistent speed, but at the
    expense of hill climbing and cross country. 110s seem to be my best
    compromise on that wheel.

    Look at what Aspen Mike achieves on a Coker on 170s.:eek:

    Having done all the experiments, I think that super short cranks are
    more to do with the entertainment factor than any genuine increase in
    useable speed. But these things have to be tried, because they're
    there.😄

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  12. 127 mm gives me a very smooth ride. It has nothing to do with speed.

    With 150 mm or longer cranks it is not so easy to keep an even and
    continuos pressure on the pedals. A couple weeks ago I put my 170 mm
    muni cranks on the coker and it was not fun at all. At low or zero
    speed they give a terrific control so they would be good for a
    beginner, but riding on flat land at an even speed trying to reach the
    sweet spot where it feels as if the coker runs by itself, is not
    attainable for me with anything longer than 127 mm. Mind you, I haven't
    tried shorter cranks.

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  13. DustinMichels said:

    What about 102mm then? I'm planning to try those next.

    Your crank preference will be a factor of your height/leg length and
    also riding style.

    I've tried 102mm, 110's, 125's and 150's on the Coker.

    My preference for perfectly flat terrain is the 102's- for me it's
    about 5% faster and much smoother than 110s. I've not tried 89's yet.
    102's are absolutely hopeless for climbing though.

    The 110's I use for general riding- uphills up to 5%, and dowhills to
    10% works really well on 110's. It's really smooth and safer going
    downhill on these than on longer cranks- you can pedal really fast
    without any wobble, which makes you more stable.

    Most people believe long cranks give you more control- so I'll qualify
    my above statement. In terms of riding downhill there are two schools
    of thought- you can use long cranks because it gives you more leverage
    and therefore in theory you can stop better. Or you can use short
    cranks and pedal really fast (but look where you're going!) and that
    gives you more control because your lower limbs will not be flying all
    over the place. It's also much harder to let your wheel "roll"
    underneath you with long cranks: Because your limbs are travelling in a
    bigger circle, it's difficult to relax. If your muscles are tense- you
    lose control, you get tired, and it impairs your ability to slow down.
    On downhills you should only have enough pressure on the pedals to
    correct your balance. The only time to put hard pressure is when you
    need to slow down.

    The 125's I like for climbing- I used it for about half the AUT, where
    the passes were over 10% in places. I would have swapped it back to
    110s for the downhills but it wasn't worth the trouble every time I got
    to the top of a hill. I certainly had the most fun descending on my
    110's.

    I use 150's for off-road. It'll climb most things.

    Also, note that the above is for an Airfoil Coker with Tommy Miller
    spokes and a tubeless kit and standard UDC hub. That makes it about
    500g lighter than a standard airfoil wheel. I would probably go up a
    crank length with a heavier wheel.

    Ken

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