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  1. I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few years
    ago, but I now know I have IBS, irritable bowel syndrome. I
    experienced what I feel is bad doctoring and wanted to get
    some opinions. I went to our family practice physician 2
    months ago complaining of having to go to the bathroom a lot
    (6 times a day usually). He said I should see a colorectal
    physician. So I went to a middle eastern doctor who speaks
    bad english. He recommended a colonscopy. So I endured a
    horrible procedure and had to pay $500 (my insurance
    deductible) and nothing was found to be wrong with my colon.
    (not that I'm complaining about that).

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the colorectal
    doctor came in and said nothing was found. I asked if I had
    IBS. He said I might. Then I asked if I should take fiber
    therapy. He sort of laughed and said "you go to bathroom too
    much and you want to take fiber to go to bathroom more?" He
    gave me no prescriptions or advice.

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is practically
    gone, 2 times a day is all I use the restroom now usually. I
    just wished my family doctor would have recommended fiber
    before a colonscopy. Also the colorectal doctor should be
    more informed about his specialty to know that fiber is a
    good cure for IBS. I just feel like I've been ripped off, as
    a medical consumer by bad communication. A more nefarious
    theory is that these doctors like to rob people by doing
    unnecessary medical procedures.

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  2. Hi Justin,

    You sound like me just over a year ago!!! Just about to turn
    31 and feeling very sick (ie awful gas, acid in my mouth,
    always tired, etc, etc), and my doctor kept sending me for
    tests (barium x-ray, ultrasound) and nothing showed up. I
    was on a waiting list for four months to see a
    gasteroentologist who finally diagnosed me with IBS! A good
    friend then told me about Experience and Daily Complete Plus
    Vitamin. These products changed my life and I feel better
    than I did when I was 20! You can check the clinical studies
    and their listing in the Physician's Desk Reference for Non-
    Prescription Drugs at this address:
    www.lisah.awarenesslife.com. The above together are called
    "Starter Pak", and there is a 30 day money-back guarantee.

    To your health!

    Sincerely,

    [email hidden]

    "Justin" <justin1138@REMOVEnet> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few
    years ago, but I now know I have IBS, irritable bowel
    syndrome. I experienced what I feel is bad doctoring and
    wanted to get some opinions. I went to our family practice
    physician 2 months ago complaining of having to go to the


    bathroom

    Quoted message said:

    a lot (6 times a day usually). He said I should see a
    colorectal physician. So I went to a middle eastern doctor
    who speaks bad english. He recommended a colonscopy. So I
    endured a horrible procedure and had to pay $500 (my
    insurance deductible) and nothing was found to be wrong
    with my colon. (not that I'm complaining about that).

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the colorectal
    doctor came in and said nothing was found. I asked if I
    had IBS. He said I might. Then I asked if I should take
    fiber therapy. He sort of laughed and said "you go to
    bathroom too much and you want to take fiber to go to
    bathroom more?" He gave me no prescriptions or advice.

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is practically
    gone, 2 times a day is all I use the restroom now usually.
    I just wished my family doctor would have recommended
    fiber before a colonscopy. Also the colorectal doctor
    should be more informed about his specialty to know that
    fiber is a good cure for IBS. I just feel like I've been
    ripped off, as a medical consumer by bad communication. A
    more nefarious theory is that these doctors like to rob
    people by doing unnecessary medical procedures.

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  3. Hi Justin/Kelvin,

    Experience is a clinically-proven colon-cleanser, and is
    listed in the 2004 Physician's Desk Reference for Non-
    Prescription drugs. It is not simply a fiber. It actually
    cleans and re-educates your colon, cleaning all of the
    layers of stool that have collected over the years. I lost
    five pounds of compacted stool right away. That was the
    source of my problems! Experience does not just irritate it
    the colon so that the stool moves like laxatives. Also,
    unlike a laxative, the longer you take it, the less you use
    of it. Let me know of any other questions you may have,
    that's what I'm here for!

    I shared this information with my gasteroentologist and he
    shut me up quick. He didn't want to know and told me on my
    way out that if I did not need my follow up appointment,
    then to cancel it. What does that tell you about his
    motivation? Obviously I wouldn't be earning any more money
    for him by seeing him and filling his prescriptions! I was
    so much better and he wasn't even curious to find out
    why/how!!!!

    I'll hear that song now with new meaning!

    Sincerely,

    [email hidden]

    "Justin" <justin1138@REMOVEnet> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few
    years ago, but I now know I have IBS, irritable bowel
    syndrome. I experienced what I feel is bad doctoring and
    wanted to get some opinions. I went to our family practice
    physician 2 months ago complaining of having to go to the


    bathroom

    Quoted message said:

    a lot (6 times a day usually). He said I should see a
    colorectal physician. So I went to a middle eastern doctor
    who speaks bad english. He recommended a colonscopy. So I
    endured a horrible procedure and had to pay $500 (my
    insurance deductible) and nothing was found to be wrong
    with my colon. (not that I'm complaining about that).

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the colorectal
    doctor came in and said nothing was found. I asked if I
    had IBS. He said I might. Then I asked if I should take
    fiber therapy. He sort of laughed and said "you go to
    bathroom too much and you want to take fiber to go to
    bathroom more?" He gave me no prescriptions or advice.

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is practically
    gone, 2 times a day is all I use the restroom now usually.
    I just wished my family doctor would have recommended
    fiber before a colonscopy. Also the colorectal doctor
    should be more informed about his specialty to know that
    fiber is a good cure for IBS. I just feel like I've been
    ripped off, as a medical consumer by bad communication. A
    more nefarious theory is that these doctors like to rob
    people by doing unnecessary medical procedures.

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  4. The above is my experience with IBS and I am very thankful
    that I am doing A LOT better. I was sceptical when my friend
    presented me with this information, but I was also desperate
    and my doctors were not helping me. It gave me back my
    health so that I could be a mother to my kids again. I am
    very, very thankful for that.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Kelvin. "Justin"
    <justin1138@REMOVEnet> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few
    years ago, but I now know I have IBS, irritable bowel
    syndrome. I experienced what I feel is bad doctoring and
    wanted to get some opinions. I went to our family practice
    physician 2 months ago complaining of having to go to the


    bathroom

    Quoted message said:

    a lot (6 times a day usually). He said I should see a
    colorectal physician. So I went to a middle eastern doctor
    who speaks bad english. He recommended a colonscopy. So I
    endured a horrible procedure and had to pay $500 (my
    insurance deductible) and nothing was found to be wrong
    with my colon. (not that I'm complaining about that).

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the colorectal
    doctor came in and said nothing was found. I asked if I
    had IBS. He said I might. Then I asked if I should take
    fiber therapy. He sort of laughed and said "you go to
    bathroom too much and you want to take fiber to go to
    bathroom more?" He gave me no prescriptions or advice.

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is practically
    gone, 2 times a day is all I use the restroom now usually.
    I just wished my family doctor would have recommended
    fiber before a colonscopy. Also the colorectal doctor
    should be more informed about his specialty to know that
    fiber is a good cure for IBS. I just feel like I've been
    ripped off, as a medical consumer by bad communication. A
    more nefarious theory is that these doctors like to rob
    people by doing unnecessary medical procedures.

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  5. Justin justin1138@removenet said:

    I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few
    years ago, but I now know I have IBS, irritable bowel
    syndrome.

    There's a NG for this news:alt.support.ibs

    Quoted message said:

    I experienced what I feel is bad doctoring and wanted to
    get some opinions.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the colorectal
    doctor came in and said nothing was found. I asked if I
    had IBS. He said I might. Then I asked if I should take
    fiber therapy. He sort of laughed and said "you go to
    bathroom too much and you want to take fiber to go to
    bathroom more?" He gave me no prescriptions or advice.

    Unhappily, an ignorant colorecal MD.

    Quoted message said:

    pay $500 (my insurance deductible) and nothing was found
    to be wrong with my colon. (not that I'm complaining
    about that).

    Better than not going and not being all right.

    Quoted message said:

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is practically
    gone, 2 times a day is all I use the restroom now usually.
    I just wished my family doctor would have recommended
    fiber before a colonscopy.

    Yup. I have had one MD advise against a gastroscopy giving
    interim advice (eat thus and so, here's a Prilosec sample,
    come back in a month if it keeps up) but that's small
    consolation to you.

    Quoted message said:

    Also the colorectal doctor should be more informed about
    his specialty to know that fiber is a good cure for IBS.
    I just feel like I've been ripped off, as a medical
    consumer by bad communication. A more nefarious theory
    is that these doctors like to rob people by doing
    unnecessary medical procedures.

    There's a number of USENET "punchlines" e.g. "never
    attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" that
    one sees. This seems all too much like "normal" stupidity.
    Doctors are trained only in the tools and procedures to a
    large extent.

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that your family MD
    wanted, based on your symptoms, to be sure nothing serious
    was happening, because he would be liable for not
    investigating if it were.

    The lack of cluefulness once serious pathology was ruled out
    is not good, though.

  6. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Experience and Daily Complete Plus Vitamin.

    thanks for the advice. I used to have acid in my mouth, sour
    stomach also. Horrible. I used to eat antacids like candy!
    Is "Experience" a fiber therapy? I take those Metamucil
    wafers once a day. The IBS is virtually cured, but I'm
    always open to new remedies.

    Being an IBS sufferer (albeit a mostly cured one), I can
    relate to the following lyrics from the Nirvana song
    "Pennyroyal Tea." As you can also I'm sure.

    "I'm on warm milk and laxatives Cherry-flavored antacids Sit
    and drink Pennyroyal Tea Distill the life that's inside of
    me Sit and drink Pennyroyal Tea I'm anemic royalty"

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  7. kidding...i don't believe your stuff.

    Kelvin

    "Lisa Hangs" <lisa.hangsATsasktel.net> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Justin/Kelvin,

    Experience is a clinically-proven colon-cleanser, and is
    listed in the


    2004

    Quoted message said:

    Physician's Desk Reference for Non-Prescription drugs. It
    is not simply a fiber. It actually cleans and re-educates
    your colon, cleaning all of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    layers of stool that have collected over the years. I lost
    five pounds of compacted stool right away. That was the
    source of my problems!


    Experience

    Quoted message said:

    does not just irritate it the colon so that the stool
    moves like


    laxatives.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, unlike a laxative, the longer you take it, the less
    you use of it. Let me know of any other questions you may
    have, that's what I'm here for!

    I shared this information with my gasteroentologist and he
    shut me up


    quick.

    Quoted message said:

    He didn't want to know and told me on my way out that if I
    did not need my follow up appointment, then to cancel it.
    What does that tell you about


    his

    Quoted message said:

    motivation? Obviously I wouldn't be earning any more money
    for him by seeing him and filling his prescriptions! I was
    so much better and he wasn't even curious to find out
    why/how!!!!

    I'll hear that song now with new meaning!

    Sincerely,

    [email hidden]

    "Justin" <justin1138@REMOVEnet> wrote in message news:Xns-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm 31 and didn't know what it was called until a few
    years ago, but I


    now

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    know I have IBS, irritable bowel syndrome. I experienced
    what I feel is bad doctoring and wanted to get some
    opinions. I went to our family practice physician 2
    months ago complaining of having to go to the


    bathroom

    Quoted message said:

    a lot (6 times a day usually). He said I should see a
    colorectal physician. So I went to a middle eastern
    doctor who speaks bad english. He recommended a
    colonscopy. So I endured a horrible procedure and had


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pay $500 (my insurance deductible) and nothing was found
    to be wrong


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    my colon. (not that I'm complaining about that).

    Anyway, at the follow-up to the colonscopy, the
    colorectal doctor came


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and said nothing was found. I asked if I had IBS. He
    said I might.


    Then

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I asked if I should take fiber therapy. He sort of
    laughed and said


    "you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go to bathroom too much and you want to take fiber to go
    to bathroom more?" He gave me no prescriptions or
    advice.

    I started taking fiber therapy and the IBS is
    practically gone, 2 times


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    day is all I use the restroom now usually. I just wished
    my family


    doctor

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    would have recommended fiber before a colonscopy. Also
    the colorectal doctor should be more informed about his
    specialty to know that fiber is


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    good cure for IBS. I just feel like I've been ripped
    off, as a medical consumer by bad communication. A more
    nefarious theory is that these doctors like to rob
    people by doing unnecessary medical procedures.

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  8. "Lisa Hangs" <lisa.hangsATsasktel.net> wrote in
    :"]news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I shared this information with my gasteroentologist and he
    shut me up quick. He didn't want to know and told me on my
    way out that if I did not need my follow up appointment,
    then to cancel it.

    What an arrogant jerk! Gee, just like a doctor. I'm going to
    try Experience. I'm all for cleaning out the bowels. That
    poison just sits there, reaking havoc with your body. This
    may sound weird, but my mental state has improved since I've
    been taking Metamucil (natural fiber). I have more energy
    and feel more rested, and I don't get so irritated/stressed.
    After all it's not weird at all, our mental state follows
    our physical state. Healthy body = healthy mind. I think the
    AMA and the drug co's want to keep the populace ignorant and
    thus profits high.

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  9. My personal belief is, the IBS maybe is caused by over
    growth of bacterias in the intestine, garlic and ginger may
    work to relieve the problem as they kill much of the
    unwanted bacteria and boast immune system.

    Do consult your doctor...

    Kelvin

    "Justin" <justin1138@REMOVEnet> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Experience and Daily Complete Plus Vitamin.

    thanks for the advice. I used to have acid in my mouth,
    sour stomach


    also.

    Quoted message said:

    Horrible. I used to eat antacids like candy! Is
    "Experience" a fiber therapy? I take those Metamucil
    wafers once a day. The IBS is virtually cured, but I'm
    always open to new remedies.

    Being an IBS sufferer (albeit a mostly cured one), I can
    relate to the following lyrics from the Nirvana song
    "Pennyroyal Tea." As you can also I'm sure.

    "I'm on warm milk and laxatives Cherry-flavored antacids
    Sit and drink Pennyroyal Tea Distill the life that's
    inside of me Sit and drink Pennyroyal Tea I'm anemic
    royalty"

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