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  1. Hi group. This is what happened to me last night riding home at 12am. Very
    wet, brakes not too responsive, coming up to a light anticipating the green
    by watching the yellow turn to red for the cross street. wait, wait, no
    green! Too late to stop! Cars coming towards me on a green left turn arrow
    that I had never noticed before! Snap decision to accelerate through. Thank
    the gods I had been seen. Lesson learned. Just wanted to share.
    -alan

  2. alan' .@. said:


    Hi group. This is what happened to me last night riding home at 12am. Very
    wet, brakes not too responsive, coming up to a light anticipating the green
    by watching the yellow turn to red for the cross street. wait, wait, no
    green! Too late to stop! Cars coming towards me on a green left turn arrow
    that I had never noticed before! Snap decision to accelerate through. Thank
    the gods I had been seen. Lesson learned. Just wanted to share.
    -alan

    Good thing you weren't in the wrong gear!

    I've got one intersection on my route that defies timing. It seems like it
    -never- changes, doesn't respond to the bike on the 'trigger sensor', has
    no crosswalk button, and even when cars precede me, and it looks like
    they'll trigger it, the damn thing never changes. I end up faking a right
    turn and then doing a U turn and coming back around and turning right to go
    straight through it.

    -B

  3. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    alan' .@. said:


    Hi group. This is what happened to me last night riding home at 12am.


    Very

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    wet, brakes not too responsive, coming up to a light anticipating the


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    by watching the yellow turn to red for the cross street. wait, wait, no
    green! Too late to stop! Cars coming towards me on a green left turn


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    that I had never noticed before! Snap decision to accelerate through.


    Thank

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    the gods I had been seen. Lesson learned. Just wanted to share.
    -alan

    Good thing you weren't in the wrong gear!

    I've got one intersection on my route that defies timing. It seems like it
    -never- changes, doesn't respond to the bike on the 'trigger sensor', has
    no crosswalk button, and even when cars precede me, and it looks like
    they'll trigger it, the damn thing never changes. I end up faking a right
    turn and then doing a U turn and coming back around and turning right to


    go

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    straight through it.

    -B


    I used to have a route on which there was a triggered traffic light. I
    changed my route.

  4. sunshine_buttercup said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Good thing you weren't in the wrong gear!

    I've got one intersection on my route that defies timing. It seems like it
    -never- changes, doesn't respond to the bike on the 'trigger sensor', has
    no crosswalk button, and even when cars precede me, and it looks like
    they'll trigger it, the damn thing never changes. I end up faking a right
    turn and then doing a U turn and coming back around and turning right to


    go

    Quoted message said:

    straight through it.

    -B


    I used to have a route on which there was a triggered traffic light. I
    changed my route.

    Lucky you.

    -B

  5. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "alan" <.@.> writes in part:

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    Lesson learned.

    Maybe a couple of lessons:

    1) 'timing' the light can backfire on ya

    2) when it's raining it helps to dry the brake pads while
    approaching intersections, even though it slows you down
    and you might miss a green light. It kind of enforces
    not barging through intersections in the rain.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  6. "sunshine_buttercup" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I used to have a route on which there was a triggered traffic light. I
    changed my route.

    I realize how lucky I am. There are only triggered traffic lights in the
    suburb I live in. They paint a white X where you are to line up your front
    wheel to trigger the light. When a loop is non-functional, they will have
    the traffic engineers out there the next day working with you to fix it.
    Except for a touchy one at 145th Ave SE and Lake Hills Blvd (where I have to
    line up the bike *perfectly* on the X or it'll think I'm just a piece of
    aluminum foil that blew across the road), the system works great.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  7. << Hi group. This is what happened to me last night riding home at 12am. Very
    wet, brakes not too responsive, coming up to a light anticipating the green
    by watching the yellow turn to red for the cross street. wait, wait, no
    green! Too late to stop! Cars coming towards me on a green left turn arrow
    that I had never noticed before! Snap decision to accelerate through. Thank
    the gods I had been seen. Lesson learned. Just wanted to share. >>

    Everybody makes mistakes like that occasionally.
    When you add up the sum total of everybody's
    mistakes, you get a thing called traffic.

    Robert

  8. LOL!

    I had a similar episode.

    Waiting at cross roads for lights to change. Anticipating racing the
    cyclist beside me, we had raced up to the lights (typical road warrior
    stuff).

    Both us watching the lights, opposite lights go orange ... get ready
    .... red. up on the pedels, into the intersection trying to jump the
    lights, but the lights didn't change!!!!

    Some turning lights, unoticed by us went on instead, and 3 lanes of
    traffic started barrelling down on us both.

    We made it through but kept expecting to hear police sirens behind us
    .....

  9. "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    We made it through but kept expecting to hear police sirens behind us

    I recently was standing around with a bunch of cyclists, and we all had some
    story about how each one of us had done something bonehead, not really on
    purpose, mostly through inattention, that could have gotten us killed, but
    the fates were with us.

    Me, I was coming up Madison the wrong way on the sidewalk. It was for only
    half a block, but I know some of you are already rolling your eyes. Then,
    when I got out to the street, onto Third Ave, without thinking much of
    anything, I took a left while the right was red. So, I hopped across four
    lanes a major of downtown street against the light, making a left from where
    no one would expect a bike to be.

    I don't know why I did it, I just did it without thinking very much. I felt
    like one lucky idiot when I realized what I was doing and made it to the
    other side of the street.

    OK, end of true confessions.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky
    please substitute yahoo for mousepotato to reply
    Home of the meditative cyclist:
    http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
    Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
    See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky

  10. My bonehead move was in Las Vegas on Blue Diamond Hwy... At the light
    by Truck Stop at I-15, I usually moved into the right-turn lane to get
    out of traffic. There were cars lining up behind me, and I thought
    they were going to turn right. When the light turned green, I soon
    discovered I was in the middle of two lanes, the "right-turn lane" was
    going to the freeway a half-block later. I meandered from the middle
    of the highway to the shoulder, not knowing why cars were lining up
    behind me, thank goodness the lead car was patient to let me to the
    shoulder.

    Mike Swenson
    now in Omaha Nebraska
    US Air Force

    Claire Petersky said:

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    We made it through but kept expecting to hear police sirens behind


    us

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    I recently was standing around with a bunch of cyclists, and we all


    had some

    ....

  11. alan' .@. said:

    Hi group. This is what happened to me last night riding home at 12am. Very
    wet, brakes not too responsive, coming up to a light anticipating the green
    by watching the yellow turn to red for the cross street. wait, wait, no
    green! Too late to stop! Cars coming towards me on a green left turn arrow
    that I had never noticed before! Snap decision to accelerate through. Thank
    the gods I had been seen. Lesson learned. Just wanted to share.

    Good observation. What you saw is the latest trend in traffic lights.
    All red for a brief but noticeable time during the change. It was
    supposed to cut down on right of way violations and incursions such as
    you describe.

    However, the brilliant drivers have gotten wise to this, and now, a
    yellow light means "speed up", and the red means you've only got ten
    seconds to get through the intersection, i.e. the red has the meaning
    the yellow used to have. I've seen cops sit and watch this behavior.
    without doing anything about it.

    I've also heard people say that there's an actual "grace period" to
    run the light if you're at the end of the line to get through, and
    that it's perfectly acceptable to run the "first part" of a red light.

    But then, in a recent survey I read somewhere, half of the people
    asked said that traffic in the right lane of a controlled-access
    highway had a duty to move to allow mergers on. Today, a
    bumper-to-bumper gaggle came down the onramp, tailgating a slow
    driver. The driver immediately behind the slow driver tried to come
    around, cross an interval between cars and merge into the second lane.
    Problem was, someone was already there. That driver did some expert
    driving to avoid a multi-car pileup.

    Do you even have to take a test to get a driver's license anymore????

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