Bad day for T-Mobile

Robert Chung said:

Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

He looks guilty to me.

<grin>

Robert Chung said:

Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)

Donald Munro said:

Robert Chung said:

Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the
only T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will
be their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)

Not yet sure. He went out the back when the peloton hit the start of the
Torremiro. About halfway up, when the grupetto was forming up around him,
the motocams went ahead to track the gold jersey group. I didn't see him
after that.

Donald Munro said:

Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)

here ya go sport

http://www.lavuelta.com/04/ingles/resultados/ind5.asp?e=5

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Robert Chung said:

Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

He looks guilty to me.

<grin>

I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

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Robert Chung said:

Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

He looks guilty to me.

<grin>

I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

What do you think they're on? My guess is that Evans spiked the water
bottles with Ex-lax.

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Donald Munro said:

Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)

here ya go sport

http://www.lavuelta.com/04/ingles/resultados/ind5.asp?e=5

What does this mean (CN)?

180 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
181 Mikel Artetxe (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
182 Brian Vandborg (Den) Team CSC 20.25
183 Matthew White (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 24.48
DNF Scott Sunderland (Aus) Alessio-Bianchi
DNF Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team
DNF Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team
DNF Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team

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What does this mean (CN)?

Just seeing if you're paying attention. Vinokourov has been moving in a
mysterious way.

Jeff

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What does this mean (CN)?

Just seeing if you're paying attention. Vinokourov has been moving in a
mysterious way.

Jeff

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Donald Munro said:

Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)

here ya go sport
http://www.lavuelta.com/04/ingles/resultados/ind5.asp?e=5

What does this mean (CN)?

180 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
181 Mikel Artetxe (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
182 Brian Vandborg (Den) Team CSC 20.25
183 Matthew White (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 24.48
DNF Scott Sunderland (Aus) Alessio-Bianchi
DNF Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team
DNF Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team
DNF Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team

somebody got bad information or mistyped or screwed up the boilerplating.

no biggie really

here is the official list of lads who put a foot down

SUNDERLAND, Scott AUS ALS RETIRADOS
BOTERO, Santiago COL TMO RETIRADOS
HIEKMANN, Torsten GER TMO RETIRADOS
WESEMANN, Steffan GER TMO RETIRADOS

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Robert Chung wrote:

>Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
>must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
>T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.

He looks guilty to me.

<grin>

I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

What do you think they're on? My guess is that Evans spiked the water
bottles with Ex-lax.

Maybe they got some bad bottles from Gerolsteiner. It is odd that Evans
apparently wasn't affected. Maybe it's early onset of glandular fever from
kissing on the team bus. You know how those pro racers are when away from
home and hearth.

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>Robert Chung wrote:
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>>Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
>>must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the only
>>T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.
>
>
>He looks guilty to me.
>
><grin>

I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

What do you think they're on? My guess is that Evans spiked the water
bottles with Ex-lax.

Maybe they got some bad bottles from Gerolsteiner. It is odd that Evans
apparently wasn't affected. Maybe it's early onset of glandular fever from
kissing on the team bus. You know how those pro racers are when away from
home and hearth.

Like this:

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/Resize%20Wizard-1.jpg

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/tourbus1.jpg

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>>Robert Chung wrote:
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>>>Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
>>>must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the
>>>only
>>>T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.
>>
>>
>>He looks guilty to me.
>>
>><grin>
>
>
>I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

What do you think they're on? My guess is that Evans spiked the water
bottles with Ex-lax.

Maybe they got some bad bottles from Gerolsteiner. It is odd that Evans
apparently wasn't affected. Maybe it's early onset of glandular fever
from kissing on the team bus. You know how those pro racers are when
away from home and hearth.

Like this:

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/Resize%20Wizard-1.jpg

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/tourbus1.jpg

Exactement

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Donald Munro <[email hidden]> writes:

>Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
>(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
>their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)
>
>
here ya go sport
http://www.lavuelta.com/04/ingles/resultados/ind5.asp?e=5

What does this mean (CN)?

180 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
181 Mikel Artetxe (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
182 Brian Vandborg (Den) Team CSC 20.25
183 Matthew White (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 24.48
DNF Scott Sunderland (Aus) Alessio-Bianchi
DNF Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team
DNF Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team
DNF Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team

somebody got bad information or mistyped or screwed up the boilerplating.

no biggie really

here is the official list of lads who put a foot down

SUNDERLAND, Scott AUS ALS RETIRADOS
BOTERO, Santiago COL TMO RETIRADOS
HIEKMANN, Torsten GER TMO RETIRADOS
WESEMANN, Steffan GER TMO RETIRADOS

"The key to getting picked accurately in bicycle races is to place in
the money."

From

http://www.redroseraces.com/2004/resultdisplay.php?id=20

JT

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>>Robert Chung wrote:
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>>>Wesemann, Hiekman, Botero, out. Vinokourov was hurting. Cadel Evans
>>>must've avoided dinner with the group last night because he was the

only

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>>>T-Mobiler who finished strong. He moves up into top 5 on GC.
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>>He looks guilty to me.
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>I don't think we've had such a team sickness since PDM.

What do you think they're on? My guess is that Evans spiked the water
bottles with Ex-lax.

Maybe they got some bad bottles from Gerolsteiner. It is odd that Evans
apparently wasn't affected. Maybe it's early onset of glandular fever

from

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kissing on the team bus. You know how those pro racers are when away

from

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home and hearth.

Like this:

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/Resize%20Wizard-1.jpg

http://hincapie.blogspot.com/tourbus1.jpg

What's scarier is that you know where to find those pics

Dave

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gym gravity said:

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Donald Munro <[email hidden]> writes:

>Where did Vino finish ? (the cyclingnews results only list up to 62nd
>(56sec back) so he must have lost out big time - presumably Evans will be
>their no. 1 for the rest of the vuelta.)
>
>

here ya go sport
http://www.lavuelta.com/04/ingles/resultados/ind5.asp?e=5

What does this mean (CN)?

180 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team
181 Mikel Artetxe (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
182 Brian Vandborg (Den) Team CSC 20.25
183 Matthew White (Aus) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 24.48
DNF Scott Sunderland (Aus) Alessio-Bianchi
DNF Santiago Botero (Col) T-Mobile Team
DNF Torsten Hiekmann (Ger) T-Mobile Team
DNF Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team

somebody got bad information or mistyped or screwed up the boilerplating.

no biggie really

here is the official list of lads who put a foot down

SUNDERLAND, Scott AUS ALS RETIRADOS
BOTERO, Santiago COL TMO RETIRADOS
HIEKMANN, Torsten GER TMO RETIRADOS
WESEMANN, Steffan GER TMO RETIRADOS

UCI abbreviation for T-Mobile Team is MOB, not TMO. I don't know why.
Do the teams get to ask for the abbreviation they want?

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From: John Forrest Tomlinson [email hidden]

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"The key to getting picked accurately in bicycle races is to place in
the money."

From

http://www.redroseraces.com/2004/resultdisplay.php?id=20

JT

Just went back and grabbed the rest of it too.

"We will make every effort to insure accurate reporting of results. If,
however, you notice that you are listed as having finished at 41st instead of
39th please don't email us complaining. The key to getting picked accurately in
bicycle races is to place in the money. "

All I can say is Amen, and thanks JT
Bill C

Diablo Scott said:

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somebody got bad information or mistyped or screwed up the
boilerplating.
no biggie really
here is the official list of lads who put a foot down
SUNDERLAND, Scott AUS ALS RETIRADOS
BOTERO, Santiago COL TMO RETIRADOS
HIEKMANN, Torsten GER TMO RETIRADOS
WESEMANN, Steffan GER TMO RETIRADOS

UCI abbreviation for T-Mobile Team is MOB, not TMO. I don't know
why. Do the teams get to ask for the abbreviation they want?

News to me 🙂

From UCI current rankings:
1 1 ITA19740401 BETTINI Paolo QSD ITA 30 2377.00
2 2 GER19700707 ZABEL Erik TMO GER 34 2327.00
3 3 ESP19800425 VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro KEL ESP 24 2074.00
4 4 ITA19710809 REBELLIN Davide GST ITA 33 1984.00
5 5 ITA19740103 PETACCHI Alessandro FAS ITA 30 1803.00
6 7 ITA19810919 CUNEGO Damiano SAE ITA 23 1742.00
7 6 USA19710918 ARMSTRONG Lance USP USA 33 1726.00
8 8 ESP19721014 MARTIN PERDIGUERO Miguel Angel SDV ESP 32 1591.00
9 9 GER19710917 VOIGT Jens CSC GER 33 1486.00
10 10 BEL19801015 BOONEN Tom QSD BEL 24 1482.00
11 11 AUS19720624 MCEWEN Robbie LOT AUS 32 1450.00
12 15 ESP19760215 FREIRE GOMEZ Oscar RAB ESP 28 1305.00
13 13 AUS19730806 O'GRADY Stuart COF AUS 31 1302.50
14 14 NED19720528 BOOGERD Michael RAB NED 32 1170.00
15 16 GER19731202 ULLRICH Jan TMO GER 31 1165.00
16 12 ITA19760102 DI LUCA Danilo SAE ITA 28 1164.00

Not a biggie either way though. We all know who is who, right.

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B. Lafferty said:

Maybe they got some bad bottles from Gerolsteiner. It is odd that Evans
apparently wasn't affected. Maybe it's early onset of glandular fever from
kissing on the team bus. You know how those pro racers are when away from
home and hearth.

Why would it be that Cadel Evans wasn't selected for the Tour when he
was in top form? Collarbones don't count.