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  1. From Velo News:

    Danny Callen

    UCI bans disc brakes from 'cross events By Andrew Juskaitis VeloNews Technical Editor This report
    filed October 20, 2003 A new technical edict from cycling's international governing body has sent
    professional cyclo-cross racers scrambling for new equipment... and maybe grasping for an
    explanation.

    According to a technical updated posted to USA Cycling's website, professional cyclo-cross racers
    will no longer be able to run disc brakes in UCI sanctioned events. According to the report, the ban
    will take effect on November 1, 2003, forcing riders and sponsors to quickly re-equip bikes.

    In some cases, that replacement doesn't come easily. According to Chris Peck, Cannondale's director
    of research and development, "it's a big problem for us because our sponsored cyclo-cross athletes
    are running our disc specific 'cross bike which can only accept disc brakes, the seat stays are too
    light to accept cantilevers. This means we're going to have to build six new 'cross bikes by the
    November deadline which is possible, but is cutting it kind of close. I can't understand why the UCI
    made this decision. It doesn't make any sense to us here at Cannondale. Were certainly going to try
    and change the minds of the UCI so we can continue to race the latest technology."

    Calls and e-mails to UCI officials remained unanswered as we posted this article, but manufacturers
    have eagerly responded to questions about the new rule.

    Craig Wright of Redline Bicycles (which recently introduced a disc specific 'cross bike) responded,
    "We find this news to be disappointing as we wait to hear the reasons for this ruling. With all the
    recent improvements in disc brake technology we knew it was just a matter of time before disc brakes
    ended up on 'cross bikes. Disc brake work better in adverse conditions. We listened to many riders
    who wanted discs, and after trying them, felt like they had improved control. We know that discs are
    not for everyone, we never planned to make our bikes a 100-percent disc, but the UCI's decision to
    ban the use of disc brakes seams a little overboard."

    Stu Thorne, owner of cyclocross.com and sponsor of a handful of UCI-competing 'crossers, said the
    decision might just be an over-reaction to an influx of largely American technology in solidly
    European sport.

    "I think it's typical of the UCI to make a decision like this," Thorne said. "I think they're just
    afraid of technical advancement. The Europeans are years off from adopting disc brake technology on
    'cross bikes, so it's really no surprise that the UCI would want to squash any development of this
    mostly American-based technology. I think they want to keep the bikes very traditional, which is to
    say, with cantilever-style brakes. Other than being sticklers for traditionalism, I can't understand
    why they'd make such a decision."

    The rule, however, is not in effect for USCF cyclo-cross events that are not on the international
    calendar, including other non-UCI categories run in conjunction with a UCI-sanctioned event.

  2. "Danny Callen" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Stu Thorne, owner of cyclocross.com and sponsor of a handful of UCI-competing 'crossers, said the
    decision might just be an over-reaction


    to

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    an influx of largely American technology in solidly European sport.

    Right...it's all a big anti-american conspiracy.

    Doesn't this person realize how ridiculous he is?

  3. No downtube shifters either, just single speed hub, you have to carry your gears in a mussette, and
    change them by hand.

    What a group of [censored] the UCI are.

    "Danny Callen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    From Velo News:

    Danny Callen

    UCI bans disc brakes from 'cross events By Andrew Juskaitis VeloNews Technical Editor This report
    filed October 20, 2003 A new technical edict from cycling's international governing body has sent
    professional cyclo-cross racers scrambling for new equipment... and maybe grasping for an
    explanation.

    According to a technical updated posted to USA Cycling's website, professional cyclo-cross racers
    will no longer be able to run disc brakes


    in

    Quoted message said:

    UCI sanctioned events. According to the report, the ban will take effect


    on

    Quoted message said:

    November 1, 2003, forcing riders and sponsors to quickly re-equip bikes.

    In some cases, that replacement doesn't come easily. According to Chris Peck, Cannondale's
    director of research and development, "it's a big


    problem

    Quoted message said:

    for us because our sponsored cyclo-cross athletes are running our disc specific 'cross bike which
    can only accept disc brakes, the seat stays are too light to accept cantilevers. This means we're
    going to have to build


    six

    Quoted message said:

    new 'cross bikes by the November deadline which is possible, but is


    cutting

    Quoted message said:

    it kind of close. I can't understand why the UCI made this decision. It doesn't make any sense to
    us here at Cannondale. Were certainly going to


    try

    Quoted message said:

    and change the minds of the UCI so we can continue to race the latest technology."

    Calls and e-mails to UCI officials remained unanswered as we posted this article, but
    manufacturers have eagerly responded to questions about the


    new

    Quoted message said:

    rule.

    Craig Wright of Redline Bicycles (which recently introduced a disc


    specific

    Quoted message said:

    'cross bike) responded, "We find this news to be disappointing as we wait


    to

    Quoted message said:

    hear the reasons for this ruling. With all the recent improvements in disc brake technology we
    knew it was just a matter of time before disc brakes ended up on 'cross bikes. Disc brake work
    better in adverse conditions. We listened to many riders who wanted discs, and after trying them,
    felt like they had improved control. We know that discs are not for everyone, we


    never

    Quoted message said:

    planned to make our bikes a 100-percent disc, but the UCI's decision to


    ban

    Quoted message said:

    the use of disc brakes seams a little overboard."

    Stu Thorne, owner of cyclocross.com and sponsor of a handful of UCI-competing 'crossers, said the
    decision might just be an over-reaction


    to

    Quoted message said:

    an influx of largely American technology in solidly European sport.

    "I think it's typical of the UCI to make a decision like this," Thorne


    said.

    Quoted message said:

    "I think they're just afraid of technical advancement. The Europeans are years off from adopting
    disc brake technology on 'cross bikes, so it's really no surprise that the UCI would want to
    squash any development of


    this

    Quoted message said:

    mostly American-based technology. I think they want to keep the bikes very traditional, which is
    to say, with cantilever-style brakes. Other than


    being

    Quoted message said:

    sticklers for traditionalism, I can't understand why they'd make such a decision."

    The rule, however, is not in effect for USCF cyclo-cross events that are


    not

    Quoted message said:

    on the international calendar, including other non-UCI categories run in conjunction with a
    UCI-sanctioned event.

  4. dont worry about the new UCI rules... in the USA you can still ride your super mega bucks cross bike
    with DISC BRAKES at your local race and still suck and fall down 5 times a lap... and still get
    completely DUSTED by VERVECKEN in the big uci race while you [censored] and moan about how much better you
    would have been if only the UCI would let you run DISC BRAKES...oh, you dont even have disc
    brakes?... what do you care then?... quit your belly aching and ride your bike... training will make
    you better than disc brakes will anyway...

    and BTW, you can still go to your local TT's with your 24 inch funny bike, or your LOTUS, or your
    HOTTA, or your Project 96!... oh, you dont have any of those bikes?... just clip on your aerobars
    and go out on your way then...

  5. "erik saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    dont worry about the new UCI rules... in the USA you can still ride your


    super

    Quoted message said:

    mega bucks cross bike with DISC BRAKES at your local race and still suck


    and

    Quoted message said:

    fall down 5 times a lap... and still get completely DUSTED by VERVECKEN in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    big uci race while you [censored] and moan about how much better you would have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    if only the UCI would let you run DISC BRAKES...oh, you dont even have


    disc

    Quoted message said:

    brakes?... what do you care then?... quit your belly aching and ride your bike... training will
    make you better than disc brakes will anyway...

    and BTW, you can still go to your local TT's with your 24 inch funny bike,


    or

    Quoted message said:

    your LOTUS, or your HOTTA, or your Project 96!... oh, you dont have any of those bikes?... just
    clip on your aerobars and go out on your way then...

    Sounds like you missed the point. First, who the hell uses brakes in a 'cross race?!!!!!!!!!
    Secondly, the UCI is proving they would rather keep 'cross in the dark ages and not move forward
    with technological advances. Personally, (as I stated above) brakes don't give you an undue
    advantage in 'cross. I wouldn't use them on my bike. However, making a decision as the season has
    begun does have a few teams scrambling for bikes. Why the UCI has to be authoritativeor dictatorial
    on these decisions rather than letting the countries / Teams vote is interesting to me.

    Danny Callen

  6. "Danny Callen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Sounds like you missed the point. First, who the hell uses brakes in a 'cross race?!!!!!!!!!
    Secondly, the UCI is proving they would rather keep 'cross in the dark ages and not move forward
    with technological advances.

    <snip>

    Dumbass -

    What does 'cross have to do with technology?

    Not much. 'Cross is fitness and skill.

    If you want tech, there's MTB downhill.

  7. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    What does 'cross have to do with technology?

    Quoted message said:

    Not much. 'Cross is fitness and skill.

    Right, so who cares what they ride? Jeez.

    --
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    Software: dedasys.comfreesoftware Apache Tcl: tcl.apache.orgtcl.apache.org

  8. "David N. Welton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    What does 'cross have to do with technology?

    Quoted message said:

    Not much. 'Cross is fitness and skill.

    Right, so who cares what they ride? Jeez.

    Dumbass -

    You are correct. It's time to make recumbents UCI legal.

  9. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    You are correct. It's time to make recumbents UCI legal.

    They already are, but most riders avoid them because of the mandatory beard requirement.

    --
    David N. Welton Consulting: dedasys.comdedasys.com Personal: dedasys.comdavidw Free
    Software: dedasys.comfreesoftware Apache Tcl: tcl.apache.orgtcl.apache.org

  10. "erik saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    i get the point, but am having a laugh.. dont take it personally, my silly rants arent directed at
    any one person in particular, unless i name them


    (like

    Quoted message said:

    sometimes when i say stuff about CHRIS DAGGS)... i am kind of a jerk


    becasue i

    Quoted message said:

    am mostly entertaining myself and some people that are freinds of mine who


    lurk

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    RBR...

    i am one of those old school guys that thinks that we should just ride our bikes... but i did say
    something more to the point in another post about


    UCI

    Quoted message said:

    tech stuff.. i forgot what that thread was called...

    Erik, I didn't take anything personally...like I said I think disc brakes are a waste anyway...just
    trying to make a point about the UCI's dictatorship atitude which I think is funny...

    Danny Callen

  11. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Dumbass -

    What does 'cross have to do with technology?

    Not much. 'Cross is fitness and skill.

    If you want tech, there's MTB downhill.

    Dumbshit-

    Maybe for the elite, but if you saw me race 'cross, you'd realize it has everything to do with
    technolgy and NOTHING about fitness and skill! By the way, I didn't expect you to get the original
    point anyway. (Hint: it had nothing to do with 'cross!)

    Danny Callen

  12. "David N. Welton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    You are correct. It's time to make recumbents UCI legal.

    They already are, but most riders avoid them because of the mandatory beard requirement.


    <snort>

    Glenn D.

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