Backstedt's bike labels

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->
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Olympic rules against showing sponsors.

JT

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Olympic rules against showing sponsors.

JT

It seemed like nobody else had their decals covered up, all the other
Olympic RR pics on Graham Watson's site show other riders with their
frame decals uncovered.

J. Spaceman

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->
grahamwatson.com4.jpgOpen ↗

Olympic rules against showing sponsor

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Jason Spaceman said:

It seemed like nobody else had their decals covered up, all the other
Olympic RR pics on Graham Watson's site show other riders with their
frame decals uncovered.

The Decathlon decals covered in this picture:
http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/updateframesetcall?openform&04olymenRR

JT

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Quoted message said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->
grahamwatson.com4.jpgOpen ↗

Olympic rules against showing sponsor

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"Coppi" is interpreted as the name of the manufacturer.

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Jason Spaceman said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Olympic rules against showing sponsors.

JT

It seemed like nobody else had their decals covered up, all the other
Olympic RR pics on Graham Watson's site show other riders with their
frame decals uncovered.

Frame manufacturer is different to sponsor.
The labels that were covered up on the Bianchis were the Alessio labels.

On 08/14/2004 09:45 PM, in article [email hidden],

Stewart Fleming said:

Jason Spaceman said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Olympic rules against showing sponsors.

JT

It seemed like nobody else had their decals covered up, all the other
Olympic RR pics on Graham Watson's site show other riders with their
frame decals uncovered.

Frame manufacturer is different to sponsor.
The labels that were covered up on the Bianchis were the Alessio labels.

Did you look at the photo?

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

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Steven L. Sheffield said:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

Bianchi in black was on Backstedt's frame, clearly visible on the seat
tube on the live TV coverage I was watching. We were having a debate
about this here, why it would be sensible to cover up the down tube logo
and leave the seat tube logo and even the logos on the wheels visible.
Then the comments on the live CN coverage made sense....officials taping
up logos on the start line and the comment about the Alessio label on
the down tube.

But I'm happy to be definitively wrong in this case.

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Stewart Fleming said:

Steven L. Sheffield said:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

Bianchi in black was on Backstedt's frame, clearly visible on the seat
tube on the live TV coverage I was watching. We were having a debate
about this here, why it would be sensible to cover up the down tube logo
and leave the seat tube logo and even the logos on the wheels visible.
Then the comments on the live CN coverage made sense....officials taping
up logos on the start line and the comment about the Alessio label on
the down tube.

But I'm happy to be definitively wrong in this case.

As far as I know, equipment logos are ok, but other logos an individual
may carry are not, unless that logo belongs to a company that sponsors the
Olympics, too. That's Olympic rule. No one covers up logos on, say, tennis
racquets. (I wanted to write "rackets" there, as it seemed more
appropriate.) But individual countries may have different rules that they
apply due to sponsorship concerns. A few years ago, there was, for example,
a bit of a tempest over the Nike sponsored basketball guys on the US team
wearing Reebok logos on their uniforms (or warm-up suits - I don't remember
which). This may be one of those situations. I was looking for a clear shot
of another Danish rider to see if their bike was similarly taped.

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So far, so good, so what?

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As far as I know, equipment logos are ok, but other logos an individual
may carry are not, unless that logo belongs to a company that sponsors the
Olympics, too. That's Olympic rule. No one covers up logos on, say, tennis
racquets. (I wanted to write "rackets" there, as it seemed more
appropriate.) But individual countries may have different rules that they
apply due to sponsorship concerns. A few years ago, there was, for

example,

Quoted message said:

a bit of a tempest over the Nike sponsored basketball guys on the US team
wearing Reebok logos on their uniforms (or warm-up suits - I don't

remember

Quoted message said:

which). This may be one of those situations. I was looking for a clear

shot

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of another Danish rider to see if their bike was similarly taped.

I may have given people a bum steer here in the heat of the moment, so to
speak. The taping was inconsistent for a start - some bikes had just one
logo, others had four. And on looking at the normal Alessio-Bianchi bikes,
it seems that it was one of the *Bianchi* logos that was taped over. Maybe
the officials ran out of tape ;-)

Jeff

Howard Kveck said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Stewart Fleming said:

Steven L. Sheffield said:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

Bianchi in black was on Backstedt's frame, clearly visible on the seat
tube on the live TV coverage I was watching. We were having a debate
about this here, why it would be sensible to cover up the down tube logo
and leave the seat tube logo and even the logos on the wheels visible.
Then the comments on the live CN coverage made sense...

"Alessio! Alessio! Alessio!" - lol.

Regards!
Stephen

Steven L. Sheffield said:

On 08/14/2004 09:45 PM, in article [email hidden],

Stewart Fleming said:

Jason Spaceman said:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 22:20:50 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
<[email hidden]> wrote:

> Olympic rules against showing sponsors.
>
> JT

It seemed like nobody else had their decals covered up, all the other
Olympic RR pics on Graham Watson's site show other riders with their
frame decals uncovered.

Frame manufacturer is different to sponsor.
The labels that were covered up on the Bianchis were the Alessio labels.

Did you look at the photo?

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

I suspect that Backstedt or his support crew misintrpreted the rules
and over-applied them.

JT

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Howard Kveck said:

tennis racquets. (I wanted to write "rackets" there, as it seemed
more appropriate.)

Because of which meaning?

# A loud distressing noise.
# A dishonest business or practice, especially one that obtains money
through fraud or extortion.
# An easy, profitable means of livelihood.

...or all three?

On 08/14/2004 10:58 PM, in article [email hidden],

Stewart Fleming said:

Steven L. Sheffield said:

http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04olymenRR-004000

No logos at all ... And on the team bikes, it doesn't say "Alessio" on the
head tube or down tube, it says "Bianchi" ...

Bianchi in black was on Backstedt's frame, clearly visible on the seat
tube on the live TV coverage I was watching. We were having a debate
about this here, why it would be sensible to cover up the down tube logo
and leave the seat tube logo and even the logos on the wheels visible.
Then the comments on the live CN coverage made sense....officials taping
up logos on the start line and the comment about the Alessio label on
the down tube.

<http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour04.php?id=photos/2004/tour04/stage6/JD_tdf04
_stg6_3>

<http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/tour04/tech/?id=tourbikes1/CN-TDF04-
Alessio01>

As you can see, the Alessio-Bianchi bikes clearly say "Bianchi" on the
downtube, rather than "Alessio" ....

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But I'm happy to be definitively wrong in this case.

I can only assume they taped up the excess logos because they are either a)
too big (ha!), or b) because Bianchi is part of the trade team's name, it's
a sponsor, rather than a supplier.

In the World Championships, there's a rule stating how large sponsor's names
can be on clothing, etc ... I'm sure it's similar in the Olympics.

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Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->
grahamwatson.com4.jpgOpen ↗

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3565616.stm

I heard the racers were forced to eat 'burgers as food during the race.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Howard Kveck said:

tennis racquets. (I wanted to write "rackets" there, as it seemed
more appropriate.)

Because of which meaning?

# A loud distressing noise.
# A dishonest business or practice, especially one that obtains money
through fraud or extortion.
# An easy, profitable means of livelihood.

..or all three?

Well, if you've seen (or heard) a women's match in recent years, you'd
certainly have to think the first one was appropriate. But you could be
right on the "all three" count.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->

according to someone who is there...

* no sponsor logos allowed anywhere (helmets, socks, etc)
* bike logos have to be the same ones (number and size) used in retail
bikes

in article [email hidden], Fake name goes
here at [email hidden] wrote on 8/15/04 2:25 PM:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->

according to someone who is there...

* no sponsor logos allowed anywhere (helmets, socks, etc)
* bike logos have to be the same ones (number and size) used in retail
bikes

Whoever made those rules does not love the Olympics...

-Sonarrat.

Sonarrat said:

in article [email hidden], Fake name goes
here at [email hidden] wrote on 8/15/04 2:25 PM:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Jason Spaceman said:

Anyone know why Magnus Backstedt had the labels on his Bianchi covered
up during the Olympic road race --->

according to someone who is there...

* no sponsor logos allowed anywhere (helmets, socks, etc)
* bike logos have to be the same ones (number and size) used in retail
bikes

Whoever made those rules does not love the Olympics...

-Sonarrat.

yep I seem to remember that the Telekom Pinerellos were all taped over
at Sydney as well. Silly since tha Olympics are really just a huge
Coke/Mickey D's ad.. at least here in the states.