backpacking and weight reduction

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Scott <[email hidden]> said

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Has anyone ever thought about loosing weight as I way of cutting down on the
weight which they carry when backpacking. I was looking at the scales
tonight and noticed that on stone in weight is nearly half my packs weight.
and I no that I'm at least one stone over weight.

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.
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GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

HTH

K

D Freeman said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

But it looks so much neater as BMI = weight(kg) / height(m) squared
without having to intoduce conversion factors.

I need to lose weight too. The problem is I like beer too much :-(
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Scott said:

Has anyone ever thought about loosing weight as I way of cutting down
on the weight which they carry when backpacking. I was looking at the
scales tonight and noticed that on stone in weight is nearly half my
packs weight. and I no that I'm at least one stone over weight.

I left back seven kilograms of body weight on the C2C this year ... if
anybody would like to pick them up, i don't need them anymore 🙂

When you're carrying your food on your back _and_ doing hard physical
work (i.e. considerable distances per day over the hills), you will lose
weight regardless of how much you eat - as long as you keep to the food
you carried all the way 🙂

I learned that it has to be a long-distance walk. I don't lose weight on
one single day of walking. My body starts to clear the fat out on the
3rd or 4th day, but then it really does.

vG

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GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or stupid.

Though note that BMI is not quite as hard a measure as some people seem
to assume. Some people will have naturally higher or lower BMIs than
the Magic Charts say they should. I'm technically overweight according
to my BMI, but though I could shed a couple of kilos to optimise I'm not
really overweight, just a fairly stocky build. I would have to lose 20
Kg to be "underweight", but that would be dangerously stupid well before
then.

Back to the original question, excess fat weight makes your life harder
and it's easier without it. Don't forget that muscle is denser than
fat, so you can actually put weight /on/ and have a better power to
weight ratio /if/ the extra weight is muscle.

And some fat gives you an energy reserve and a bit of extra insulation,
both of which can be genuinely useful on a cold day. Why lose 500g of
fat if you just have to carry the same weight as an extra pullover and
emergency food?

Pete.
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Phil Cook said:

D Freeman said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

But it looks so much neater as BMI = weight(kg) / height(m) squared
without having to intoduce conversion factors.

I need to lose weight too. The problem is I like beer too much :-(

The good news is that beer is not (too) fattening. What really gets you
calorie wise is the crisps, nuts and the curry on the way home. :-)

--
Dave McLaughlin

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yeah, I defiantly eat more when I've been drinking beer than when I'm
stoned.
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Phil Cook said:

D Freeman said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
>if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
>your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
>stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

But it looks so much neater as BMI = weight(kg) / height(m) squared
without having to intoduce conversion factors.

I need to lose weight too. The problem is I like beer too much :-(

The good news is that beer is not (too) fattening. What really gets you
calorie wise is the crisps, nuts and the curry on the way home. :-)

--
Dave McLaughlin

[censored] Sapiens Non Urinat In Ventum

Phil Cook <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

D Freeman said:

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

But it looks so much neater as BMI = weight(kg) / height(m) squared
without having to intoduce conversion factors.

I know my height in heat and finches, and I know my weight in lbs.
That involves two conversions!

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I need to lose weight too. The problem is I like beer too much :-(

I bought a pair of scales which measure my weight and also claim to
measure % body fat by electrocuting me. 🙂

The fat content can vary between about 25% first thing in the morning,
to about 20% last thing at night, mainly due to night time dehydration I
think. I take the higher figure though, and it's within the healthy
range for my height and age, which have to be programmed into the
scales.
--
Gordon

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:24:41 GMT, Dave Mclaughlin <[email hidden]> wrote:

| The good news is that beer is not (too) fattening.

http://www.weightlossforgood.co.uk/nutrition/assorted_beer.htm
Now who drinks only 12 fl oz of beer?

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Dave F

Scott <[email hidden]> wrote

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Has anyone ever thought about loosing weight as I way of cutting down on the
weight which they carry when backpacking. I was looking at the scales
tonight and noticed that on stone in weight is nearly half my packs weight.
and I no that I'm at least one stone over weight.

Good idea if you are overweight to start with.
Here's another thing to ponder; 'tis said that a pound on the feet is
equivalent to two pounds on your back, so you should try to lose weight
from your feet mostly. :-)

I bought two pairs of very cheap fabric boots recently, one pair weigh
2lbs, and the others weigh 2.8lbs, almost as much as my 3lb leather
boots.

Comparing them on my regular exercise walk there is a recognisable
difference made by less than one lb....
--
Gordon

D Freeman said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

Shame you have do the stones->pounds math in your head ;-)

Looks like the health fascists have been at work again, revising the lower
end of "healthy" down from 20 to 18.5. At 6'2", if I weighed 10 stone 4, I
think I'd look severely underweight (I once did, so this is not idle
conjecture).

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Dave Fawthrop <[email hidden]> wrote

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:24:41 GMT, Dave Mclaughlin <[email hidden]> wrote:

| The good news is that beer is not (too) fattening.

http://www.weightlossforgood.co.uk/nutrition/assorted_beer.htm
Now who drinks only 12 fl oz of beer?

In a week or a day?
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Gordon

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful person D
Freeman <[email hidden]> said

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GSV Three Minds in a Can said:

Been there, done that. You really need to make the leap to MKS though ..
if you had your weight in Kg and your height in M you could calculate
your BMI and see whether losing weight was required, suggested, or
stupid.

Erm, you can calculate your BMI in imperial mesurements quite happily,
infact this link will help you:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/bmi/calc-bmi.htm

Yeah, but I find 80/1.87/1.87 easier to do in my head than 12st 9lbs/6ft
1.5" / 6ft 1.5" and then applying a conversion factor instead of using
20, 25.

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon <[email hidden]> said
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I bought two pairs of very cheap fabric boots recently, one pair weigh
2lbs, and the others weigh 2.8lbs, almost as much as my 3lb leather
boots.

Comparing them on my regular exercise walk there is a recognisable
difference made by less than one lb....

I agree .. that's why I prefer a pair of (cheap) trainers, where you can
get some pairs in the 1.0-1.5 lbs a pair range (size 10!). Not much fun
in the wet, on rocks, etc, but wonderful for a quick sprint along the
bridleways or footpaths in the dry.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Peter Clinch
<[email hidden]> writes

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And some fat gives you an energy reserve and a bit of extra insulation,
both of which can be genuinely useful on a cold day. Why lose 500g of
fat if you just have to carry the same weight as an extra pullover and
emergency food?

Yeah Peter, but the fat you lose is size XXL while the pullover is size
L much better for the psychy. :-)
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GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> wrote

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. that's why I prefer a pair of (cheap) trainers, where you can
get some pairs in the 1.0-1.5 lbs a pair range (size 10!). Not much fun
in the wet, on rocks, etc, but wonderful for a quick sprint along the
bridleways or footpaths in the dry.

Ha ha!
I don't do sprinting, but I can trot a few yards in the light boots.
--
Gordon

On 30/9/04 12:43 am, in article [email hidden],

Scott said:

Has anyone ever thought about loosing weight as I way of cutting down on the
weight which they carry when backpacking. I was looking at the scales
tonight and noticed that on stone in weight is nearly half my packs weight.
and I no that I'm at least one stone over weight.

I've thought about it often :-)

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Andy Howell
Birmingham, UK