Baby steps

My first exercise was water aerobics. I did it because I loved it and it felt so good to get into
the pool at the end of the day. I don't do water aerobics in the winter. Even though the gym and the
pool are heated, going swimming when the temps outside are frigid just doesn't compute in my brain.
As the weather warms, I'll probably add this back into my week.

Prairie Roots On Sun said:

Good idea. I have thoughts of doing laps at the pool in the back of my head, but only because it's
fun and relaxing. I enjoy weight lifting, but I can only do 3-4 squats at a time w/o hurting myself-
that's a 45 pound bar!

Julie

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Don't worry about the exercise right now. Several of us here, myself included, were several
months into losing weight before we added exercise to our program. Others don't exercise at all
and still lose weight consistently and steadily. I still haven't made it into a habit. Don't give
yourself something else to beat yourself up about.

skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

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like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

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to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is
progress. Yet I still can't get myself

to

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go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.

Julie

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and time
> again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
> repetition.
>
> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with these
> feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise
> quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>
> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
>
> Prairie Roots
>
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

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my
> >woe.
> >
> >These are the steps I've take so far:
> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

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> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when

I

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> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the
woe
> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have

in

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> >the past.
> >
> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

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> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
> >when I portion out things like salad

dressing.

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> >
> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this
works
> >better some days more than others.
> >
> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
switched
> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

and

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I
> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from
going
> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

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> >for lunch.
> >
> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
starting
> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
ephedra
> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
> >
> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

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> >
> >Julie
> >
>

Prairie Roots
232/161/WW goal 145 joined WW Online 22-Feb-2003

see below

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Well I was using it sparingly when I decided the heck with it. I used

to

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use the ephedra product religiously (4 pills a day) and bought the ephedra-free version when I
moved to IL (ephedra products were illegal

in

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this state when I picked it up). I wasn't being consistant in its use

so

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I

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was in the ramping up stages when I started using the ephedra free

version.

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From my point of view, it was working the same way (fluid reduction,

hunger

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reduction, warm flashes, jitters) however I wasn't losing much because I

was

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still eating the same way but I wasn't snacking-which helped. I was successful with the ephedra
version because at the time, I had the

luxury

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of

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going to the gym when I wanted to for however long I wanted to.

Not picking on you but your last sentence may have said it all. You lost weight because you were
going to the gym not because of the pills.

I don't think you're picking on me at all. Thanks for the consideration though..another day it would
be needed. I suspect that the pill had some effect...meaning that I had myself convinced that it was
working *grin*.

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Also, they did not know that ephedra was dangerous when they first introduced it. Since the Ephedra-
free pills cause the same jitters, etc

then

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one has to wonder if the product is safe. I tried the ephedra version once and did not like the
racing feeling that I experienced. It is speeding up your heart rate,etc in an attempt to speed up
your metabolism. I suspect

the

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the new formula might just be dangerous too but they don't know it yet.

You

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are better off doing WW than taking these pills.

Who knows. Although it's my body and my science experiment, I've decided that the pills really
aren't going to do me a lot of favors because I don't want them to be a sustainable part of my wol.

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see below

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"skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Well I was using it sparingly when I decided the heck with it. I used

to

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Quoted message said:

use the ephedra product religiously (4 pills a day) and bought the ephedra-free version when I
moved to IL (ephedra products were illegal

in

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Quoted message said:

this state when I picked it up). I wasn't being consistant in its use

so

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I

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was in the ramping up stages when I started using the ephedra free

version.

Quoted message said:

From my point of view, it was working the same way (fluid reduction,

hunger

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reduction, warm flashes, jitters) however I wasn't losing much because

I

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Quoted message said:

was

Quoted message said:

still eating the same way but I wasn't snacking-which helped. I was successful with the
ephedra version because at the time, I had the

luxury

Quoted message said:

of

Quoted message said:

going to the gym when I wanted to for however long I wanted to.

Not picking on you but your last sentence may have said it all. You lost weight because you were
going to the gym not because of the pills.

I don't think you're picking on me at all. Thanks for the consideration though..another day it
would be needed. I suspect that the pill had some effect...meaning that I had myself convinced
that it was working *grin*.

Many pills work that way. Mind over matter.

Quoted message said:

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Also, they did not know that ephedra was dangerous when they first introduced it. Since the Ephedra-
free pills cause the same jitters, etc

then

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one has to wonder if the product is safe. I tried the ephedra version

once

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and did not like the racing feeling that I experienced. It is speeding

up

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

your heart rate,etc in an attempt to speed up your metabolism. I suspect

the

Quoted message said:

the new formula might just be dangerous too but they don't know it yet.

You

Quoted message said:

are better off doing WW than taking these pills.

Who knows. Although it's my body and my science experiment, I've decided that the pills really
aren't going to do me a lot of favors because I

don't

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want them to be a sustainable part of my wol.

Smart move. They also just scare me. I don't think anyone really knows what the effects of the new
formula. I'd hate to be a guinea pig.

Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will aid in getting those
pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at the same time. BUT ... you don't have to
exercise to lose weight. I dropped the majority of my weight with little to no exercise. In the
summer I did walk in the evening with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada.
It wasn't until this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill, and by
then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has become a habit, but it
still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to get down there, and there are also many
days that I don't get around to it. The trick is to find something you really enjoy doing, then find
a time of day that really does work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in
becoming a walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine for a bit, give
you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a little bit of exercise into your day?

Joyce

skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving excuses like it's too cold, I
don't want to have to shower again that day, If I go to the gym now I'll be up too late and will
never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more
than once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get myself to go. I'm not a fan
of working out at home either.

Julie

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Quoted message said:

All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and time
again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of repetition.

Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome these
tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with these
feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise
quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.

Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.

Prairie Roots

skiur said:

It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to re-evaluate

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

woe.

These are the steps I've take so far:
1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This has already helped me put
the brakes to some habits that I picked up when I wasn't paying attention. I redirected the
need to be perfect with the

woe

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have in the past.

2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being bad, and I can have it.
This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself when I portion out
things like salad dressing.

3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this

works

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

better some days more than others.

4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I

switched

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips and

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from

going

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a sandwich for lunch.

My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my

starting

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking

ephedra

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.

The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this journey.

Julie

skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving excuses like it's too cold, I
don't want to have to shower again that day, If I go to the gym now I'll be up too late and will
never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more
than once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get myself to go. I'm not a fan
of working out at home either.

I'm not a natural exerciser either, but I make a virtue of necessity: I have to collect my son from
school every day during term time, and as i do not drive, come rain, hail, snow, high winds and
brilliant sunshine, I walk both directions! It's a mile each way. All the other parents have strict
instructions only to offer me a lift if the weather is truly vile and you wouldn't send an orc out
into it! James occasionally complains, but agrees that it's good for both of us!

I'd love to be able to get my act together and go swimming twice a week too, but the times I and the
pool are both kid free do not coincide during normal waking hours...
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Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

Julie:

Congrats on these steps!!

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skiur said:

It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to re-evaluate my woe.

These are the steps I've take so far:
1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This has already helped me put the
brakes to some habits that I picked up when I wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to
be perfect with the woe to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have
in the past.

2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being bad, and I can have it. This
one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself when I portion out things
like salad dressing.

3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this works better some days more
than others.

4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I switched to WOW chips (no fat,
70 calories per serving). I really like chips and I don't feel like it's a diet when I can have
them. It'll keep me from going AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
sandwich for lunch.

My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my starting weight is although I do
have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking ephedra free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight
normalization.

The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this journey.

Julie

I have been doing WW for 70 weeks and losing for about 75. I still do not
exercise in a formal way. I can't find anything I enjoy and I refuse to do
anything to lose weight that I can't commit to for life. The up side to
this is that the changes I have made are forever and they will not stop when
losing is done, thereby helping me to maintain. The down side is that I am
not as toned as I would like and I am sure I would be further along if I had
exercised. In the end it is up to you and what you want. Good luck, Lee
Laura <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am one of those that has always shunned away from exercise. I joined WW

at

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the end of April 2003. My first real exercise did not start until August.

I

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did make an effort to walk a mile with my husband each night during the summer (weather
permitting). Exercise does not have to be anything formal. Just going for a walk, parking at the
other end of the parking lot,

walking

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the malls, using the stairs, etc count too. The object of the game is to

get

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any type of physical activity to help burn calories. It also helps tone

your

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body as you lose the weight. I now do Curves 4 times a week. I still have problems getting there
some days. It is on the way home from work so I really don't have an excuse to not go. On days
that I work from home I

never

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seem to make it there on my own unless I take my daughter to school and

then

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stop on my way home. Give yourself time. Lose some weight and you'll find that you have more
energy than you know what to do with. Then you'll want

to

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go to the gym or for walks.

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Quoted message said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more

than

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.

Julie

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and time
again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
repetition.

Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with these
feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise
quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.

Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

>woe.
>
>These are the steps I've take so far:
>1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

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Quoted message said:

>already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

woe

Quoted message said:

>to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I

have

Quoted message said:

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>the past.
>
>2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
>when I portion out things like salad

dressing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this

works

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>better some days more than others.
>
>4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I

switched

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>to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

and

Quoted message said:

I

Quoted message said:

>don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from

going

Quoted message said:

>AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>for lunch.
>
>My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my

starting

Quoted message said:

>weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking

ephedra

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>free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>
>The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

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>
>Julie
>

Thanks Connie.

Julie "Connie" <walshclan@nospam_primus.ca> wrote in message
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Julie:

Congrats on these steps!!

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/202/155 RAFL 210.5/202/198.5

skiur said:

It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to re-evaluate

my

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

woe.

These are the steps I've take so far:
1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when I wasn't paying attention.
I redirected the need to be perfect with the

woe

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the past.

2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself when
I portion out things like salad dressing.

3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this

works

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

better some days more than others.

4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I

switched

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

and I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from

going

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for lunch.

My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my

starting

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking

ephedra

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.

The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Julie

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm taking
names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't much like this feeling. I hope to make some
scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this
extra weight.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will

aid in

Quoted message said:

getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at

the same

Quoted message said:

time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped the

majority

Quoted message said:

of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in the

evening

Quoted message said:

with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It

wasn't until

Quoted message said:

this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill,

and by

Quoted message said:

then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has

become a

Quoted message said:

habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to

get down

Quoted message said:

there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The

trick is

Quoted message said:

to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that

really does

Quoted message said:

work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in

becoming a

Quoted message said:

walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine

for a

Quoted message said:

bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a

little bit

Quoted message said:

of exercise into your day?

Joyce

skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling myself
that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I
still can't get myself

to

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.

Julie

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and time
again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
repetition.

Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome these
tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with these
feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise
quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.

Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.

Prairie Roots

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

>woe.
>
>These are the steps I've take so far:
>1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the

woe

Quoted message said:

>to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>the past.
>
>2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

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>to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

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>free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
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>Julie
>

That's the way to do it. Unfortunately, I need a car to get anywhere here, but the bar. I just
keep reminding myself that it took me years to put on this weight so it will take time to work on
good habits.

Julie

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skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

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like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

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to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
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than

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go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.

I'm not a natural exerciser either, but I make a virtue of necessity: I have to collect my son
from school every day during term time, and as i do not drive, come rain, hail, snow, high winds
and brilliant sunshine, I walk both directions! It's a mile each way. All the other parents have
strict instructions only to offer me a lift if the weather is truly vile and you wouldn't send an
orc out into it! James occasionally complains, but agrees that it's good for both of us!

I'd love to be able to get my act together and go swimming twice a week too, but the times I and
the pool are both kid free do not coincide during normal waking hours...
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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area likes the cold ... yet we
all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well ... pretty close. I'm in the western/southwestern
'burbs - about 30 miles from the city itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today
were beautiful, very nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the people
complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about being out in the heat. LOL! I
have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have been out walking every single day this winter,
even in those few subzero days we've had. They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set
a clock by them. Not quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But maybe you could work out
some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get off my butt and do something, then I can
have .... whatever. I splurged on some dvd's, only allow myself access to them when I am on the
treadmill (which hub splurged on for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am
splurging on hub). If you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing
something similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You may also find
that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and move around better. Maybe
joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check into the Curves program, is relatively
inexpensive and quick, and from what I've heard everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there
are tons in the chicago area. Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very bad - have been known to
use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

skiur said:

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't much like this feeling. I hope to make some
scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this
extra weight.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will

aid in

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getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at

the same

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time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped the

majority

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of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in the

evening

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with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It

wasn't until

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this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill,

and by

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then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has

become a

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habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to

get down

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there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The

trick is

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to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that

really does

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work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in

becoming a

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walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine

for a

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bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a

little bit

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of exercise into your day?

Joyce

skiur said:

I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

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like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

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to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is
progress. Yet I still can't get myself

to

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go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.

Julie

"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and time
> again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
> repetition.
>
> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with these
> feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise
> quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>
> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
>
> Prairie Roots
>
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

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my
> >woe.
> >
> >These are the steps I've take so far:
> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

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> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when

I

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> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the
woe
> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have

in

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> >the past.
> >
> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

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> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
> >when I portion out things like salad

dressing.

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> >
> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this
works
> >better some days more than others.
> >
> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
switched
> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

and

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I
> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from
going
> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

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> >for lunch.
> >
> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
starting
> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
ephedra
> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
> >
> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

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> >
> >Julie
> >
>

Hey, an exercise bike, now????

You folks will have a deluxe gym going.

Have fun. Next a real bike and helmet and bike tights (G)

Joyce said:

I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area likes the cold ... yet we
all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well ... pretty close. I'm in the
western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the city itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but
yesterday and today were beautiful, very nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short
months all the people complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about being
out in the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have been out walking
every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days we've had. They just bundle up
warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by them. Not quite for me, I'm cold enough in my
basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But maybe you could work out
some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get off my butt and do something, then I can
have .... whatever. I splurged on some dvd's, only allow myself access to them when I am on the
treadmill (which hub splurged on for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am
splurging on hub). If you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing
something similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You may also find
that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and move around better. Maybe
joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check into the Curves program, is relatively
inexpensive and quick, and from what I've heard everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there
are tons in the chicago area. Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very bad - have been known to
use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

skiur said:

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't much like this feeling. I hope to make some
scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this
extra weight.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will

aid in

Quoted message said:

getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at

the same

Quoted message said:

time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped the

majority

Quoted message said:

of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in the

evening

Quoted message said:

with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It

wasn't until

Quoted message said:

this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill,

and by

Quoted message said:

then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has

become a

Quoted message said:

habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to

get down

Quoted message said:

there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The

trick is

Quoted message said:

to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that

really does

Quoted message said:

work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in

becoming a

Quoted message said:

walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine

for a

Quoted message said:

bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a

little bit

Quoted message said:

of exercise into your day?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

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>like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I

go

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>to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
>myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is
>progress. Yet I still can't get myself

to

Quoted message said:

>go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>
>Julie
>
>
>"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and
>> time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
>> repetition.
>>
>> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
>> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with
>> these feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that
>> exercise quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>>
>> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
>>
>> Prairie Roots
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

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>my
>> >woe.
>> >
>> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This

has

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>> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when

I

Quoted message said:

>> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the
>woe
>> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have

in

Quoted message said:

>> >the past.
>> >
>> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being

bad,

Quoted message said:

>> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
>> >when I portion out things like salad

dressing.

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>> >
>> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this
>works
>> >better some days more than others.
>> >
>> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
>switched
>> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips

and

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>I
>> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from
>going
>> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

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>> >for lunch.
>> >
>> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
>starting
>> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
>ephedra
>> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >
>> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

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>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>>
>

Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at the 30ish mile point. If you
want to compare more IL notes, just take the "is" and the "not" out of my email address when
responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they will be saying how much they
missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the same in most northern states.

We are in an apartment and don't have space for equipment, however I do have a Bally's membership.
Encouraging myself to go is a different matter and getting myself to go consistantly is even more of
a different matter. Last time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at the
gym and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself into the parking lot and
parked in it only to start the car again and drive home a few times. I think that I just wasn't
ready at that time. I need to stop overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great
of shape as I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm at the gym for 20
minutes-does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things. I'd rather be in the mind's
eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area

likes

Quoted message said:

the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well

... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the

city

Quoted message said:

itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

Quoted message said:

nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

Quoted message said:

complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

Quoted message said:

the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have

been out

Quoted message said:

walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days we've

had.

Quoted message said:

They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

Quoted message said:

quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But

maybe

Quoted message said:

you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get

off my

Quoted message said:

butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on some

dvd's,

Quoted message said:

only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

Quoted message said:

for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging on

hub). If

Quoted message said:

you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing

something

Quoted message said:

similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You

may also

Quoted message said:

find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and

move

Quoted message said:

around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check

into the

Quoted message said:

Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what I've

heard

Quoted message said:

everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the chicago

area.

Quoted message said:

Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very

bad -

Quoted message said:

have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

skiur said:

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm
realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and

will

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

aid in

Quoted message said:

getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff

at

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the same

Quoted message said:

time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

majority

Quoted message said:

of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

evening

Quoted message said:

with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It

wasn't until

Quoted message said:

this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

treadmill,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and by

Quoted message said:

then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise

has

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

become a

Quoted message said:

habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to

get down

Quoted message said:

there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The

trick is

Quoted message said:

to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that

really does

Quoted message said:

work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in

becoming a

Quoted message said:

walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office

routine

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

for a

Quoted message said:

bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a

little bit

Quoted message said:

of exercise into your day?

Joyce

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving

excuses

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>like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

go

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>to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

etc.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more

than

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to

Quoted message said:

>go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>
>Julie
>
>
>"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>"]news:[email hidden]...
>> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have

to

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick
>> even after weeks of repetition.
>>
>> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
>> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that

I

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> can lose weight even while dealing with these feelings. Posting

about

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise quiets the noise of the
>> internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>>
>> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
>>
>> Prairie Roots
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to

re-evaluate

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>my
>> >woe.
>> >
>> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

This

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Quoted message said:

has

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>> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up

when

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Quoted message said:

I

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>> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with

the

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Quoted message said:

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>woe
>> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I

have

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Quoted message said:

in

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>> >the past.
>> >
>> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

being

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bad,

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>> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
>> >when I portion out things like salad

dressing.

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>> >
>> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

more-this

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>works
>> >better some days more than others.
>> >
>> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
>switched
>> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

chips

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

>I
>> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>going
>> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a

sandwich

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>> >for lunch.
>> >
>> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
>starting
>> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
>ephedra
>> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >
>> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this

journey.

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>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>>
>

You know I hope you take this the right way and I don't offend you but...
and remember this is from someone who openly admits to not doing formal
exercise... Could you be doing it a bit too much to self sabotage, Hope I
didn't offend, Lee
skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at

the

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30ish mile point. If you want to compare more IL notes, just take the

"is"

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and the "not" out of my email address when responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they will

be

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saying how much they missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the same in most northern states.

We are in an apartment and don't have space for equipment, however I do

have

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a Bally's membership. Encouraging myself to go is a different matter and getting myself to go
consistantly is even more of a different matter.

Last

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time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at the

gym

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and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself into the parking lot and
parked in it only to start the car again and drive

home

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a few times. I think that I just wasn't ready at that time. I need to

stop

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overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great of shape

as

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I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm at the gym for 20 minutes-
does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things.

I'd

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rather be in the mind's eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland

area

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likes

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the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well

... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the

city

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itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

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nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

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complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

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the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have

been out

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walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days

we've

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had.

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They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

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quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either.

But

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maybe

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you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I

get

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off my

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butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on

some

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dvd's,

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only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

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for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging on

hub). If

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you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing

something

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similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine.

You

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may also

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find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better

and

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move

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around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or

check

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into the

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Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what I've

heard

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everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the

chicago

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area.

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Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad,

very

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bad -

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have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:47:06 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here

in

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Chicagoland, but I'm taking names and I think there is at least one

other

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person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my

notebook

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upstairs and turned right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

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like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can

move

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around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

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Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and

will

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aid in
> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose

stuff

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at

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the same
> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped

the

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majority
> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in

the

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evening
> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It
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> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

treadmill,

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and by
> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise

has

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become a
> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself

to

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get down
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trick is
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really does
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routine

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for a
> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a
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> of exercise into your day?
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>
> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
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> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day,

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I

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go
> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

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than

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> >once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

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to
> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
> >
> >Julie
> >
> >
> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may

have

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to

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> >> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick
> >> even after weeks of repetition.
> >>
> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in

my

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I

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about

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> >> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that

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> >> quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
> >>
> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
> >>
> >> Prairie Roots
> >>
> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
re-evaluate
> >my
> >> >woe.
> >> >
> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

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has
> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up

when

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I
> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect

with

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the

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> >woe
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have

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in
> >> >the past.
> >> >
> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

being

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bad,
> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have

this

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> >> >conversation with myself when I portion out things like salad
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> >> >
> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

more-this

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> >works
> >> >better some days more than others.
> >> >
> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so

I

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> >switched
> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

chips

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and
> >I
> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

from

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> >going
> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
sandwich
> >> >for lunch.
> >> >
> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
> >starting
> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped

taking

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> >ephedra
> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
> >> >
> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
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> >> >
> >> >Julie
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Didn't offend, but I'm not sure what you mean?

I know that I don't want to fail at this wol. I'm also trying to change the "must do everything
perfectly all at once" attitude in order to be more happy with myself and my life choices. I'm a
master at beating myself up for anything.

Julie

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
berlin.de...

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You know I hope you take this the right way and I don't offend you but... and remember this is
from someone who openly admits to not doing formal exercise... Could you be doing it a bit too
much to self sabotage, Hope I didn't offend, Lee skiur <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:caicnf3uFfSDgqHd3cwC-
[email hidden]...

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Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at

the

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30ish mile point. If you want to compare more IL notes, just take the

"is"

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and the "not" out of my email address when responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they

will

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be

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saying how much they missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the

same

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Quoted message said:

in most northern states.

We are in an apartment and don't have space for equipment, however I do

have

Quoted message said:

a Bally's membership. Encouraging myself to go is a different matter

and

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Quoted message said:

getting myself to go consistantly is even more of a different matter.

Last

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time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at the

gym

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and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself

into

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the parking lot and parked in it only to start the car again and drive

home

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a few times. I think that I just wasn't ready at that time. I need to

stop

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overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great of

shape

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as

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I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm

at

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the gym for 20 minutes-does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things.

I'd

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rather be in the mind's eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland

area

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likes

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the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also,

well

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... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from

the

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city

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itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

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nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

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complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

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the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood

have

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been out

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walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days

we've

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had.

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They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

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quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either.

But

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maybe

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you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I

get

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off my

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butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on

some

Quoted message said:

dvd's,

Quoted message said:

only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

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for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging

on

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Quoted message said:

hub). If

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you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and

doing

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something

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similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine.

You

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may also

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find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better

and

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move

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around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or

check

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into the

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Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what

I've

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heard

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everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the

chicago

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area.

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Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad,

very

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bad -

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have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:47:06 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here

in

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>Chicagoland, but I'm taking names and I think there is at least one

other

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>person who might be interested. We'll see.
>
>I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my

notebook

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>upstairs and turned right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

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>like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can

move

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>around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

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>
>Julie
>
>"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you

and

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will

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>aid in
>> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose

stuff

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at

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>the same
>> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I

dropped

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the

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>majority
>> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk

in

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the

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>evening
>> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada.

It

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>wasn't until
>> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

treadmill,

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>and by
>> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say

exercise

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has

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>become a
>> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force

myself

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to

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>get down
>> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it.

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>trick is
>> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day

that

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>really does
>> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested

in

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>becoming a
>> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office

routine

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>for a
>> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get

a

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>little bit
>> of exercise into your day?
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>>
>> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
>excuses
>> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day,

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I

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>go
>> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

etc.

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>> >I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym

more

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than

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>> >once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

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>to
>> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>> >
>> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may

have

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to

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>> >> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons

come

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>> >> easy, some don't stick even after weeks of repetition.
>> >>
>> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone

in

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my

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>> >> struggle to overcome these tendencies. What I've discovered is

that

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I

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>> >> can lose weight even while dealing with these feelings. Posting

about

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>> >> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that

exercise

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>> >> quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>> >>
>> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep

coming

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>> >> back.
>> >>
>> >> Prairie Roots
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur"

<[email hidden]>

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>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
>re-evaluate
>> >my
>> >> >woe.
>> >> >
>> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

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>has
>> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked

up

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when

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>I
>> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect

with

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the

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>> >woe
>> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as

I

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have

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>in
>> >> >the past.
>> >> >
>> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

being

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>bad,
>> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have

this

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>> >> >conversation with myself when I portion out things like salad
>dressing.
>> >> >
>> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

more-this

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>> >works
>> >> >better some days more than others.
>> >> >
>> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips

so

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I

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>> >switched
>> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

chips

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>and
>> >I
>> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

from

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>> >going
>> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have

a

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>sandwich
>> >> >for lunch.
>> >> >
>> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where

my

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>> >starting
>> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped

taking

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>> >ephedra
>> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >> >
>> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting

this

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>journey.
>> >> >
>> >> >Julie
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

LOL! You are the silly one! Bike tights are definitely not in my future, right up there with the
bikini - my kids would be mortified. Weights will be next in line, bike was picked up this afternoon
and is currently residing in the back of my vehicle. I'm trying to figure out how to get it into the
house (sonny boy more than likely will have to accomplish this) and where the heck to put it.

Joyce

Fred said:

Hey, an exercise bike, now????

You folks will have a deluxe gym going.

Have fun. Next a real bike and helmet and bike tights (G)

Joyce said:

I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area likes the cold ... yet
we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well ... pretty close. I'm in the
western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the city itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but
yesterday and today were beautiful, very nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short
months all the people complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about being
out in the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have been out walking
every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days we've had. They just bundle up
warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by them. Not quite for me, I'm cold enough in my
basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But maybe you could work out
some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get off my butt and do something, then I can
have .... whatever. I splurged on some dvd's, only allow myself access to them when I am on the
treadmill (which hub splurged on for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am
splurging on hub). If you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing
something similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You may also find
that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and move around better. Maybe
joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check into the Curves program, is relatively
inexpensive and quick, and from what I've heard everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there
are tons in the chicago area. Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very bad - have been known to
use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

skiur said:

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't much like this feeling. I hope to make some
scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this
extra weight.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will
aid in
> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at
the same
> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped the
majority
> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in the
evening
> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It
wasn't until
> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill,
and by
> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has
become a
> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to
get down
> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The
trick is
> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that
really does
> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in
becoming a
> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine
for a
> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a
little bit
> of exercise into your day?
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
excuses
> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I
go
> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
> >myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is
> >progress. Yet I still can't get myself
to
> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
> >
> >Julie
> >
> >
> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and
> >> time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
> >> repetition.
> >>
> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
> >> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with
> >> these feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that
> >> exercise quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
> >>
> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
> >>
> >> Prairie Roots
> >>
> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
re-evaluate
> >my
> >> >woe.
> >> >
> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This
has
> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when
I
> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the
> >woe
> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have
in
> >> >the past.
> >> >
> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being
bad,
> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
> >> >when I portion out things like salad
dressing.
> >> >
> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this
> >works
> >> >better some days more than others.
> >> >
> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
> >switched
> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips
and
> >I
> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from
> >going
> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
sandwich
> >> >for lunch.
> >> >
> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
> >starting
> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
> >ephedra
> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
> >> >
> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
journey.
> >> >
> >> >Julie
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Not too sure how many notes there are to compare about IL, I tend to try to ignore most of it, have
lived here way too long. <G> Are you in the Schaumburg neck of the woods? I'm figuring you must be
due north of me (Glen Ellyn, Ummmm, Oakbrook or Naperville if you need a bigger nearby town to get
an idea where I am)

LOL! One thing you will never hear me say is that I miss winter. I have never enjoyed the cold. I do
like the changes of seasons, but also wish we only had 3 of them (guess which one I am omitting).

I never did the bally thing, but did belong to a local health club a few years ago. I had a major
problem with going, seemed everyone there were those super skinny model types that made me wonder
what the heck they were doing there. Ok, that was the *old* me, now I know what they were/are doing
there and can accept
it. I guess it was a confidence issue, or lack of. I had no self confidence, felt like the minute I
walked in there everyone was looking at the fat lady and just humoring me. So I stopped going.
Had I had someone to go with, it might have been different - I don't know though. I think I am
just one of those loner type personalities, probably why I knew that the ww storefront and
meetings were not going to be the answer for me. I work well alone, I can push myself - but put
me in a group and forget it. Again, lack of self confidence? Or maybe residual issues from the
severe depression/anxiety/panic junk I dealt with.

If all you feel like doing is 20 minutes, then do 20 minutes! I look at it as ... it's 20 more
minutes than I was doing before. Would maybe a home exercise video work better for you? That might
be an interim solution to get you over the hump. Or even something as goofy as parking at the rear
of the parking lot at work, grocery shopping, malls, etc. That walking is exercise, and more than
likely is out of the ordinary routine (although if it's at night it probably isn't a smart idea to
be walking that far alone).

If you're not ready, you're not ready. No reason to beat yourself up about it, and no reason to feel
guilty. When you feel you are ready, then try again. You CAN lose weight without the formalized
exercise - I did and I think Lee also has said she has had no formal exercise. It is more difficult,
a bit slower, but definitely possible.

Joyce

skiur said:

Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at the 30ish mile point. If
you want to compare more IL notes, just take the "is" and the "not" out of my email address when
responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they will be saying how much they
missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the same in most northern states.

We are in an apartment and don't have space for equipment, however I do have a Bally's membership.
Encouraging myself to go is a different matter and getting myself to go consistantly is even more
of a different matter. Last time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at
the gym and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself into the parking lot
and parked in it only to start the car again and drive home a few times. I think that I just wasn't
ready at that time. I need to stop overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great
of shape as I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm at the gym for 20
minutes-does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things. I'd rather be in the mind's
eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area

likes

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the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well

... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the

city

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itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

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nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

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complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

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the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have

been out

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walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days we've

had.

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They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

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quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But

maybe

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you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get

off my

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butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on some

dvd's,

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only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

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for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging on

hub). If

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you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing

something

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similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You

may also

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find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and

move

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around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check

into the

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Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what I've

heard

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everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the chicago

area.

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Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very

bad -

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have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

skiur said:

I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.

I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

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like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm
realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

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Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and

will

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aid in
> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff

at

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the same
> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped

the

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majority
> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in

the

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evening
> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It
wasn't until
> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

treadmill,

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and by
> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise

has

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become a
> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to
get down
> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The
trick is
> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that
really does
> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in
becoming a
> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office

routine

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for a
> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a
little bit
> of exercise into your day?
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>
> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
excuses
> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If

I

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go
> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

etc.

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> >I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more

than

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> >once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

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to
> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
> >
> >Julie
> >
> >
> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> >"]news:[email hidden]...
> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have

to

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> >> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick
> >> even after weeks of repetition.
> >>
> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
> >> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that

I

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> >> can lose weight even while dealing with these feelings. Posting

about

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> >> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that exercise quiets the noise of the
> >> internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
> >>
> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
> >>
> >> Prairie Roots
> >>
> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
re-evaluate
> >my
> >> >woe.
> >> >
> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

This

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has
> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up

when

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I
> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with

the

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> >woe
> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I

have

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in
> >> >the past.
> >> >
> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

being

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bad,
> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
> >> >when I portion out things like salad
dressing.
> >> >
> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

more-this

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> >works
> >> >better some days more than others.
> >> >
> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
> >switched
> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

chips

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and
> >I
> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

from

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> >going
> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
sandwich
> >> >for lunch.
> >> >
> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
> >starting
> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
> >ephedra
> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
> >> >
> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
journey.
> >> >
> >> >Julie
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

Bike clothes are much more comfortable for biking then another thing else. The seams are properly
located to take pressure off various saddle-exposed areas (G)

One day...... (G)

Joyce said:

LOL! You are the silly one! Bike tights are definitely not in my future, right up there with the
bikini - my kids would be mortified. Weights will be next in line, bike was picked up this
afternoon and is currently residing in the back of my vehicle. I'm trying to figure out how to
get it into the house (sonny boy more than likely will have to accomplish this) and where the
heck to put it.

Joyce

Fred said:

Hey, an exercise bike, now????

You folks will have a deluxe gym going.

Have fun. Next a real bike and helmet and bike tights (G)

Joyce said:

I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland area likes the cold ... yet
we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well ... pretty close. I'm in the
western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from the city itself. And yes, it's been cold ...
but yesterday and today were beautiful, very nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few
short months all the people complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about
being out in the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood have been out
walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days we've had. They just bundle
up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by them. Not quite for me, I'm cold enough in
my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either. But maybe you could work
out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I get off my butt and do something, then I
can have .... whatever. I splurged on some dvd's, only allow myself access to them when I am on
the treadmill (which hub splurged on for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am
splurging on hub). If you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and doing
something similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine. You may also find
that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better and move around better. Maybe
joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or check into the Curves program, is relatively
inexpensive and quick, and from what I've heard everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there
are tons in the chicago area. Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad, very bad - have been known
to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:47:06 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here in Chicagoland, but I'm
>taking names and I think there is at least one other person who might be interested. We'll see.
>
>I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my notebook upstairs and turned
>right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't much like this feeling. I hope to make some
>scale progress so that I can move around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this
>extra weight.
>
>Julie
>
>"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you and will
>aid in
>> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose stuff at
>the same
>> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped the
>majority
>> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk in the
>evening
>> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada. It
>wasn't until
>> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the treadmill,
>and by
>> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say exercise has
>become a
>> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself to
>get down
>> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it. The
>trick is
>> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day that
>really does
>> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested in
>becoming a
>> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office routine
>for a
>> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get a
>little bit
>> of exercise into your day?
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
>excuses
>> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day, If I
>go
>> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work, etc. I've tried telling
>> >myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym more than once a week because any effort is
>> >progress. Yet I still can't get myself
>to
>> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>> >
>> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may have to return to time and
>> >> time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick even after weeks of
>> >> repetition.
>> >>
>> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in my struggle to overcome
>> >> these tendencies. What I've discovered is that I can lose weight even while dealing with
>> >> these feelings. Posting about those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that
>> >> exercise quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>> >>
>> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep coming back.
>> >>
>> >> Prairie Roots
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
>re-evaluate
>> >my
>> >> >woe.
>> >> >
>> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available. This
>has
>> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up when
>I
>> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect with the
>> >woe
>> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as I have
>in
>> >> >the past.
>> >> >
>> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not being
>bad,
>> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have this conversation with myself
>> >> >when I portion out things like salad
>dressing.
>> >> >
>> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any more-this
>> >works
>> >> >better some days more than others.
>> >> >
>> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips so I
>> >switched
>> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like chips
>and
>> >I
>> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me from
>> >going
>> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
>sandwich
>> >> >for lunch.
>> >> >
>> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where my
>> >starting
>> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped taking
>> >ephedra
>> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >> >
>> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
>journey.
>> >> >
>> >> >Julie
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>

Joyce is right, I won't do anything to lose that I can't commit to forever
so I accepted slower losses with the expectation that I would keep off what
I took off, I am pretty well convinced that I would already be at goal if I
had done something but I am also convinced that missing exercise after
getting to goal would have been a major downfall for me so I am OK with
slower losses, Lee
Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Not too sure how many notes there are to compare about IL, I tend to try

to ignore

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most of it, have lived here way too long. <G> Are you in the Schaumburg

neck of

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the woods? I'm figuring you must be due north of me (Glen Ellyn, Ummmm,

Oakbrook

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or Naperville if you need a bigger nearby town to get an idea where I am)

LOL! One thing you will never hear me say is that I miss winter. I have

never

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enjoyed the cold. I do like the changes of seasons, but also wish we only

had 3

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of them (guess which one I am omitting).

I never did the bally thing, but did belong to a local health club a few

years

Quoted message said:

ago. I had a major problem with going, seemed everyone there were those

super

Quoted message said:

skinny model types that made me wonder what the heck they were doing

there. Ok,

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that was the *old* me, now I know what they were/are doing there and can

accept

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it. I guess it was a confidence issue, or lack of. I had no self

confidence,

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felt like the minute I walked in there everyone was looking at the fat

lady and

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just humoring me. So I stopped going. Had I had someone to go with, it

might

Quoted message said:

have been different - I don't know though. I think I am just one of those

loner

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type personalities, probably why I knew that the ww storefront and

meetings were

Quoted message said:

not going to be the answer for me. I work well alone, I can push myself -

but put

Quoted message said:

me in a group and forget it. Again, lack of self confidence? Or maybe

residual

Quoted message said:

issues from the severe depression/anxiety/panic junk I dealt with.

If all you feel like doing is 20 minutes, then do 20 minutes! I look at

it as ...

Quoted message said:

it's 20 more minutes than I was doing before. Would maybe a home exercise

video

Quoted message said:

work better for you? That might be an interim solution to get you over

the hump.

Quoted message said:

Or even something as goofy as parking at the rear of the parking lot at

work,

Quoted message said:

grocery shopping, malls, etc. That walking is exercise, and more than

likely is

Quoted message said:

out of the ordinary routine (although if it's at night it probably isn't a

smart

Quoted message said:

idea to be walking that far alone).

If you're not ready, you're not ready. No reason to beat yourself up

about it,

Quoted message said:

and no reason to feel guilty. When you feel you are ready, then try

again. You

Quoted message said:

CAN lose weight without the formalized exercise - I did and I think Lee

also has

Quoted message said:

said she has had no formal exercise. It is more difficult, a bit slower,

but

Quoted message said:

definitely possible.

Joyce

skiur said:

Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at

the

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30ish mile point. If you want to compare more IL notes, just take the

"is"

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and the "not" out of my email address when responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they will

be

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saying how much they missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the

same

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in most northern states.

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have

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a Bally's membership. Encouraging myself to go is a different matter and getting myself to go
consistantly is even more of a different matter.

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time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at the

gym

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and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself

into

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the parking lot and parked in it only to start the car again and drive

home

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a few times. I think that I just wasn't ready at that time. I need to

stop

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overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great of shape

as

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I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm at the gym for 20 minutes-
does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things.

I'd

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rather be in the mind's eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland

area

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likes

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the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well

... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from

the

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city

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itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

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nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

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complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

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the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood

have

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been out

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walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days

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had.

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They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

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quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either.

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maybe

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you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I

get

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off my

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butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on

some

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dvd's,

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only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

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for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging

on

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hub). If

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you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and

doing

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something

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similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine.

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may also

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find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better

and

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move

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around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or

check

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into the

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Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what I've

heard

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everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the

chicago

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area.

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Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad,

very

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bad -

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have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:47:06 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here

in

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>Chicagoland, but I'm taking names and I think there is at least one

other

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>person who might be interested. We'll see.
>
>I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my

notebook

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>upstairs and turned right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

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>like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can

move

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>around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

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>
>Julie
>
>"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you

and

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will

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>aid in
>> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose

stuff

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at

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>the same
>> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped

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>majority
>> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk

in

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the

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>evening
>> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada.

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>wasn't until
>> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

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>and by
>> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say

exercise

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>become a
>> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself

to

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>get down
>> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it.

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>trick is
>> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day

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>really does
>> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested

in

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>becoming a
>> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office

routine

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>for a
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a

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>little bit
>> of exercise into your day?
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>>
>> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
>excuses
>> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day,

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I

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>go
>> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

etc.

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>> >I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym

more

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than

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>> >once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

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>to
>> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>> >
>> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may

have

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to

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>> >> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick
>> >> even after weeks of repetition.
>> >>
>> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in

my

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>> >> struggle to overcome these tendencies. What I've discovered is

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>> >> can lose weight even while dealing with these feelings. Posting

about

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>> >> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that

exercise

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>> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep

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>> >> back.
>> >>
>> >> Prairie Roots
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur"

<[email hidden]>

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>> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
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>> >my
>> >> >woe.
>> >> >
>> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

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>has
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when

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>I
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with

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the

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>> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as

I

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have

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>in
>> >> >the past.
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>> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

being

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>bad,
>> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have

this

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>> >> >conversation with myself when I portion out things like salad
>dressing.
>> >> >
>> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

more-this

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>> >works
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>> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips

so I

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>> >switched
>> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

chips

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>and
>> >I
>> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

from

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>> >going
>> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
>sandwich
>> >> >for lunch.
>> >> >
>> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where

my

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>> >starting
>> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped

taking

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>> >ephedra
>> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >> >
>> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
>journey.
>> >> >
>> >> >Julie
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>

I'm in Schaumburg. I've heard of Glen Ellyn, but I'm more familiar with Oakbrook and Naperville.

The only time I missed winter was when I lived in Atlanta where it was "cold" (20s at night) for
only a month or so. Spring hit like gangbusters and I had to start popping allergy tablets in late
February-it was aweful for me.

Sometimes I feel the way you did. I don't like drawing attention to myself too much at the gym, but
the people here don't ogle as much as where I used to live. I actually do park at the back of the
parking lot at work. It's too cold (windy really) for me to treck across the lot at malls or
groceries, but I don't cruise around for the closest spot in the lot anymore.

Today was birthday cake day for February birthday's where I work. I didn't have any (two cakes from
Portillos and Baker's Square) so I was just talking with one of the women. She asked why I wasn't
having any and I told her that I was watching what I was eating in attempts to lose weight. She is
very enthusiastic about working out. I had mentioned that I wasn't ready and she was saying how
"sometimes you have to push yourself", etc. I understand where she's coming from, but I don't think
I'm ready to start the gym excursions quite yet.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Not too sure how many notes there are to compare about IL, I tend to try

to ignore

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most of it, have lived here way too long. <G> Are you in the Schaumburg

neck of

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the woods? I'm figuring you must be due north of me (Glen Ellyn, Ummmm,

Oakbrook

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or Naperville if you need a bigger nearby town to get an idea where I am)

LOL! One thing you will never hear me say is that I miss winter. I have

never

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enjoyed the cold. I do like the changes of seasons, but also wish we only

had 3

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of them (guess which one I am omitting).

I never did the bally thing, but did belong to a local health club a few

years

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ago. I had a major problem with going, seemed everyone there were those

super

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skinny model types that made me wonder what the heck they were doing

there. Ok,

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that was the *old* me, now I know what they were/are doing there and can

accept

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it. I guess it was a confidence issue, or lack of. I had no self

confidence,

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felt like the minute I walked in there everyone was looking at the fat

lady and

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just humoring me. So I stopped going. Had I had someone to go with, it

might

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have been different - I don't know though. I think I am just one of those

loner

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type personalities, probably why I knew that the ww storefront and

meetings were

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not going to be the answer for me. I work well alone, I can push myself -

but put

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me in a group and forget it. Again, lack of self confidence? Or maybe

residual

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issues from the severe depression/anxiety/panic junk I dealt with.

If all you feel like doing is 20 minutes, then do 20 minutes! I look at

it as ...

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it's 20 more minutes than I was doing before. Would maybe a home exercise

video

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work better for you? That might be an interim solution to get you over

the hump.

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Or even something as goofy as parking at the rear of the parking lot at

work,

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grocery shopping, malls, etc. That walking is exercise, and more than

likely is

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out of the ordinary routine (although if it's at night it probably isn't a

smart

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idea to be walking that far alone).

If you're not ready, you're not ready. No reason to beat yourself up

about it,

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and no reason to feel guilty. When you feel you are ready, then try

again. You

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CAN lose weight without the formalized exercise - I did and I think Lee

also has

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said she has had no formal exercise. It is more difficult, a bit slower,

but

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definitely possible.

Joyce

skiur said:

Hi there neighbor! I'm in the 'burbs too, but the north/northwestern at

the

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30ish mile point. If you want to compare more IL notes, just take the

"is"

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and the "not" out of my email address when responding.

People and weather are funny. I know that in a few short months they will

be

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saying how much they missed winter, blah blah blah. I think it's the

same

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in most northern states.

We are in an apartment and don't have space for equipment, however I do

have

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a Bally's membership. Encouraging myself to go is a different matter and getting myself to go
consistantly is even more of a different matter.

Last

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time I was in there was MLK's birthday weekend when I over did it at the

gym

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and couldn't get myself back into it again. I've since driven myself

into

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the parking lot and parked in it only to start the car again and drive

home

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a few times. I think that I just wasn't ready at that time. I need to

stop

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overdoing it and getting discouraged because I'm not in as great of shape

as

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I think I am. I just feel like I'm not doing enough for myself if I'm at the gym for 20 minutes-
does that make sense to anyone?

I'm realizing that reality and my mind's eye are two different things.

I'd

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rather be in the mind's eye version of me.

Julie

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I really do understand your dilemma, seems no one in the chicagoland

area

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likes

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the cold ... yet we all are still here. <G> I'm a chicagoan also, well

... pretty

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close. I'm in the western/southwestern 'burbs - about 30 miles from

the

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city

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itself. And yes, it's been cold ... but yesterday and today were

beautiful, very

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nice walkin' weather. <G> And trust me, in a few short months all the

people

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complaining of being out in the cold - will then be complaining about

being out in

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the heat. LOL! I have noticed a group of women in my neighborhood

have

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been out

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walking every single day this winter, even in those few subzero days

we've

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had.

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They just bundle up warrmer, get up and go - you could set a clock by

them. Not

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quite for me, I'm cold enough in my basement. <grin>

I know you said you didn't like home exercise, I don't really either.

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maybe

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you could work out some kind of a deal with yourself ... like ... IF I

get

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off my

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butt and do something, then I can have .... whatever. I splurged on

some

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dvd's,

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only allow myself access to them when I am on the treadmill (which hub

splurged on

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for me) ... and am adding a bike to the mix this week (I am splurging

on

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hub). If

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you have access to any equipment, maybe setting up a tv nearby and

doing

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something

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similar would give you the incentive to start somekind of a routine.

You

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may also

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find that adding some exercise into your day will help you feel better

and

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move

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around better. Maybe joining an exercise class at the local Y? Or

check

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into the

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Curves program, is relatively inexpensive and quick, and from what I've

heard

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everyone that has tried it loves it. I know there are tons in the

chicago

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area.

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Just some options to think about ...

As far as the trek up and down those library stairs ....... I'm bad,

very

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bad -

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have been known to use the elevator. <grin>

Joyce

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:47:06 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>I work with people who don't like the cold and it's still "cold" here

in

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>Chicagoland, but I'm taking names and I think there is at least one

other

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>person who might be interested. We'll see.
>
>I went the the library today and it has two floors. I forgot my

notebook

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>upstairs and turned right around to get it-boy was I winded. I don't

much

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>like this feeling. I hope to make some scale progress so that I can

move

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>around better. I'm realizing just how much I don't like this extra

weight.

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>
>Julie
>
>"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
>> Most of us have been there also, Julie. Exercise is good for you

and

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will

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>aid in
>> getting those pounds to drop off as well as firming up the loose

stuff

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at

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>the same
>> time. BUT ... you don't have to exercise to lose weight. I dropped

the

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>majority
>> of my weight with little to no exercise. In the summer I did walk

in

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the

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>evening
>> with hub, but nothing majorly exertive ... other than that, nada.

It

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>wasn't until
>> this fall when I finally pushed myself into getting back to the

treadmill,

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>and by
>> then I was trying valiantly to maintain. I wish I could say

exercise

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has

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>become a
>> habit, but it still hasn't. Many days I really have to force myself

to

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>get down
>> there, and there are also many days that I don't get around to it.

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>trick is
>> to find something you really enjoy doing, then find a time of day

that

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>really does
>> work best for you. Is there anyone at work that may be interested

in

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>becoming a
>> walking buddy with you? It might be a good break from the office

routine

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>for a
>> bit, give you time to chat and catch up with a friend, and also get

a

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>little bit
>> of exercise into your day?
>>
>> Joyce
>>
>> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 03:23:49 -0600, "skiur" <[email hidden]>

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>>
>> >I've had a hard time motivating myself to exercise. I keep giving
>excuses
>> >like it's too cold, I don't want to have to shower again that day,

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I

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>go
>> >to the gym now I'll be up too late and will never get up for work,

etc.

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>> >I've tried telling myself that it's ok if I don't go to the gym

more

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than

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>> >once a week because any effort is progress. Yet I still can't get

myself

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>to
>> >go. I'm not a fan of working out at home either.
>> >
>> >Julie
>> >
>> >
>> >"Prairie Roots" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> >"]news:[email hidden]...
>> >> All these will serve you well over the long haul. Some you may

have

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to

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>> >> return to time and time again. At least for me, some lessons come easy, some don't stick
>> >> even after weeks of repetition.
>> >>
>> >> Self-recrimination and guilt are biggies. I know I'm not alone in

my

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>> >> struggle to overcome these tendencies. What I've discovered is

that

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I

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>> >> can lose weight even while dealing with these feelings. Posting

about

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>> >> those feelings here helps a lot. I'm also discovering that

exercise

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>> >> quiets the noise of the internal critics. Maybe they get tired.
>> >>
>> >> Good for you for taking these important initial steps. Keep

coming

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>> >> back.
>> >>
>> >> Prairie Roots
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:04:24 -0600, "skiur"

<[email hidden]>

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>> >> wrote:
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>> >> >It's been about a week since I've made a concious effort to
>re-evaluate
>> >my
>> >> >woe.
>> >> >
>> >> >These are the steps I've take so far:
>> >> >1) Journal foods with portion size and calories when available.

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>> >> >already helped me put the brakes to some habits that I picked up

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>> >> >wasn't paying attention. I redirected the need to be perfect

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>> >woe
>> >> >to journaling and it's helped a lot. I don't feel as guilty as

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>in
>> >> >the past.
>> >> >
>> >> >2) Repeating to myself that a certain food is allowed, I'm not

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>> >> >and I can have it. This one is going to take a while. I have

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>> >> >conversation with myself when I portion out things like salad
>dressing.
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>> >> >3) Eating smaller portions and stop when I'm not hungry any

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>> >> >better some days more than others.
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>> >> >4) Making substitutions for foods. I really like potato chips

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>> >> >to WOW chips (no fat, 70 calories per serving). I really like

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>> >I
>> >> >don't feel like it's a diet when I can have them. It'll keep me

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>> >> >AWOL and I need to ease myself off the chips every time I have a
>sandwich
>> >> >for lunch.
>> >> >
>> >> >My weight keeps fluctuating and I'm trying to figure out where

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>> >starting
>> >> >weight is although I do have a pretty good idea. I stopped

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>> >ephedra
>> >> >free Xenadrine which plays a part in weight normalization.
>> >> >
>> >> >The most important thing is that I feel better for starting this
>journey.
>> >> >
>> >> >Julie
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