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  1. My cartridge bearing hubs are spaced for a 120mm rear dropout with an
    axle just long enough for the two track nuts to fit on perfectly.
    However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle. I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges. So my
    question is, one, am I making this a bigger issue that it is? And two,
    if you answered no to the previous question, then were do I buy a
    shouldered axle (as Barnett calls it)?

    Another question, where do you store your lock keys? Currently I have a
    rubber band tied to mine and I wrap it around the top tube. Since the
    lock stays with the bike when it's not being used on a pole, the key
    should too but there's no real obvioius place to put a key like there
    is a lock. My lock has a nice holder on the seat tube, my key doesn't
    get that. So where's the fastest access method/place to put it?
    --
    Will Fisher

  2. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >


    Another question, where do you store your lock keys?
    <<<<

    This may sound a little dorky but you could attach the key to your
    wristwatch, or your keyring.

    Lewis.

    *****

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    wfisher said:

    My cartridge bearing hubs are spaced for a 120mm rear dropout with an
    axle just long enough for the two track nuts to fit on perfectly.
    However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle. I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges. So my
    question is, one, am I making this a bigger issue that it is? And two,
    if you answered no to the previous question, then were do I buy a
    shouldered axle (as Barnett calls it)?

    If your frame is steel, is there a reason why the rear triangle cannot
    be cold-set (i.e. bent) to achieve a 120mm dropout spacing? (I assume
    your current setup uses 3mm spacers on the rear axle to make up for the
    hub/dropout spacing difference.)

    luke

  4. Keychain

  5. wfisher said:

    My cartridge bearing hubs are spaced for a 120mm rear dropout with an
    axle just long enough for the two track nuts to fit on perfectly.
    However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle.

    It sounds like the thickness of the dropouts is also greater than the
    axle was designed to accomodate; if the frame is aluminum, that may be
    why.

    There are those who would say that it's a bad idea to fit any
    width-mismatched wheel to a frame, but 6mm is unlikely to cause a
    problem in my opinion.

    Quoted message said:

    I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges.

    And you probably won't find them online either. The shoulder spacing
    is specific to the hub; there is no "standard spacing" for those
    bearings.

    Quoted message said:

    So my
    question is, one, am I making this a bigger issue that it is? And two,
    if you answered no to the previous question, then were do I buy a
    shouldered axle (as Barnett calls it)?

    My solution: Take the axle to a machine shop and have them make a
    tubular spacer of the same length as the shouldered section that will
    fit over a readily available conventional axle. Take the hub along so
    that they can see how much of a tolerance they have on the OD.

    Quoted message said:

    Another question, where do you store your lock keys? Currently I have a
    rubber band tied to mine and I wrap it around the top tube. Since the
    lock stays with the bike when it's not being used on a pole, the key
    should too but there's no real obvioius place to put a key like there
    is a lock. My lock has a nice holder on the seat tube, my key doesn't
    get that. So where's the fastest access method/place to put it?

    I use my pocketses, or when wearing something that lacks them (which
    is seldom), I stash them in the belt pack with my other essentials.
    At home, they stay on the assigned hook on a wall. But then, the
    bikes are all locked when home, since they're in a sheltered outdoor
    location.
    --
    Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
    Some gardening required to reply via email.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  6. << My cartridge bearing hubs are spaced for a 120mm rear dropout with an
    axle just long enough for the two track nuts to fit on perfectly.
    However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle. I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges. So my
    question is, one, am I making this a bigger issue that it is? And two,
    if you answered no to the previous question, then were do I buy a
    shouldered axle (as Barnett calls it)?

    Another question, where do you store your lock keys? Currently I have a
    rubber band tied to mine and I wrap it around the top tube. Since the
    lock stays with the bike when it's not being used on a pole, the key
    should too but there's no real obvioius place to put a key like there
    is a lock. My lock has a nice holder on the seat tube, my key doesn't
    get that. So where's the fastest access method/place to put it?
    --
    Will Fisher

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    <BR><BR>

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. << However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle. I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges. >><BR><BR>

    Probably not around..steel frame? cold set to 120mm.

    Which hub?

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  8. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    << My cartridge bearing hubs are spaced for a 120mm rear dropout with an
    axle just long enough for the two track nuts to fit on perfectly.
    However, I have 126mm rear spacing and when I screw everything on, only
    half the threads of each nut come in contact with the axle. I would buy
    a new axle but I can not find a SINGLE store that sells 174mm axles
    with those special shoulders that sit between the cartridges. So my
    question is, one, am I making this a bigger issue that it is? And two,
    if you answered no to the previous question, then were do I buy a
    shouldered axle (as Barnett calls it)?

    There are a number of critical variables for shouldered axles. In
    additon to the normal thread pitch and diameter, you also need the right
    diameter where the bearings fit, and the right distance between shoulders.

    There's no standardization in this, and aftermarket axle companies, such
    as Wheels, Inc. don't generally do shouldered axles. It is likely that
    the axle you seek has not been manufactured.

    Quoted message said:

    Another question, where do you store your lock keys? Currently I have a
    rubber band tied to mine and I wrap it around the top tube. Since the
    lock stays with the bike when it's not being used on a pole, the key
    should too but there's no real obvioius place to put a key like there
    is a lock. My lock has a nice holder on the seat tube, my key doesn't
    get that. So where's the fastest access method/place to put it?

    I have a couple of cheap French cable locks that I use for low risk
    parking, and ran a zip-tie through the key ring. The zip tie is long
    enough to go through the lock and to allow the key to be inserted. I
    keep the key in the lock, and the ziptie will secure it should the key
    accidentally fall out.

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