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  1. (Richard Adams) said:

    Garry Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Richard Adams said:

    Sure, but Worlds is every year, you only get the chance to wallow in
    grief and self pity for missing the winning break in the Olympics RR
    every 4 years.

    Does anyone know how much attention is paid to Olympic cycling in
    countries like France, Italy and Spain?

    Had a Swede won the tdf the reports here would be "This must increase
    his chances in the Olympics". To us in the know we would laugh at this.
    However, to the mainstream Swede (non cyclist), an Olympic gold would be
    mean more than an overall in the tdf. Sad, but true.

    I think it's the case more places than you realize. Winning olympic
    gold is huge. Bigger than worlds, bigger then stages in GT's, bigger
    than winning the CDM.

    The usual [censored] for which "english speaking world" = "most places".
    Let's face it, in any place South of the Baltic, North of Africa, East of
    the Atlantic and West of the Urals the Olympic Road Race is just a minor
    cycling achievement. And that is something like 40 different nations.

  2. (Tom Kunich) said:

    Garry Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    I understand things have improved in the States. In Samuel Abt's book
    "Greg Lemond" the tale is told of how a Frenchman followed Lemond back
    to the states after he (Lemond) had won the tour de France in 1989.
    Half-expecting millions of people and a welcome home tickertape
    reception the Frenchman was surprised when just a handful of Lemond's
    nearest relatives had turned up. One of Lemond's bags had been lost in
    transport. At the baggage complaints desk he reported this and said
    "Lemond". The girl at the desk looked up and asked "And how do you spell
    that?".

    I think that is the good part. I don't like the idea of adulation to
    the point where stalkers are everywhere.

    Hey, it's great that Bernard Hinault won 5 Tours and that Greg won 3
    and Lance 6. But should that mean that they no longer have a private
    life?

    That's one of the things that makes America a popular home for a lot of stars
    from all fields. We seem to be accustomed to the extraordinary and take
    remarkable people in stride - letting them have the stage and be applauded or
    just go catch a movie at the mall when they prefer. Hell, Tampa - Clearwater -
    Sarasota is downright lousy with British rock stars.

    Ron

  3. Tom Kunich said:


    Garry Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    I understand things have improved in the States. In Samuel Abt's book
    "Greg Lemond" the tale is told of how a Frenchman followed Lemond back
    to the states after he (Lemond) had won the tour de France in 1989.
    Half-expecting millions of people and a welcome home tickertape
    reception the Frenchman was surprised when just a handful of Lemond's
    nearest relatives had turned up. One of Lemond's bags had been lost in
    transport. At the baggage complaints desk he reported this and said
    "Lemond". The girl at the desk looked up and asked "And how do you spell
    that?".

    I think that is the good part. I don't like the idea of adulation to
    the point where stalkers are everywhere.

    Yeah, cyclists can not afford superstar status like some of the soccer
    stars like Beckham. Imagine how difficult it would be to nip out for a
    training ride if you were to be swamped by autograph hunters/groupies.

    Garry Jones
    English Cyclist ResIDING in Sweden

  4. Garry Jones said:
    Tom Kunich said:


    Garry Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    I understand things have improved in the States. In Samuel Abt's book
    "Greg Lemond" the tale is told of how a Frenchman followed Lemond back
    to the states after he (Lemond) had won the tour de France in 1989.
    Half-expecting millions of people and a welcome home tickertape
    reception the Frenchman was surprised when just a handful of Lemond's
    nearest relatives had turned up. One of Lemond's bags had been lost in
    transport. At the baggage complaints desk he reported this and said
    "Lemond". The girl at the desk looked up and asked "And how do you spell
    that?".

    I think that is the good part. I don't like the idea of adulation to
    the point where stalkers are everywhere.

    Yeah, cyclists can not afford superstar status like some of the soccer
    stars like Beckham. Imagine how difficult it would be to nip out for a
    training ride if you were to be swamped by autograph hunters/groupies.

    Well, the main difference is in the attitude.
    World Champion Igor Astarloa has been living in Brescia, Lombardy, since a
    few years.
    Nowadays most amateur riders there recognize him and guess what, he's
    always very kind with all of them, let them take his wheel during training
    rides, stops chatting with them at the end of the training, he even became
    friend with a few of them (in the it.sport.ciclismo newsgroup you can find
    one of those guys, frequently posting updates about his training rides
    meetings with the World Champion).

    Most soccer champions are just not interested in sharing their lives with
    fans as Astarloa does.

  5. Davide Tosi said:

    Most soccer champions are just not interested in sharing their lives with
    fans as Astarloa does.

    Its the risk. There was a Beckham baby kidnap plot foiled by a tip off
    and armed police at the last minute. Most famous sportsmen/politicians
    use bodyguards, the main exception is cyclists. To do their sport they
    must be accessible. Dare I say this also means they would be an easy
    target for any terrorist looking to make a name for himself/his cause.
    However, I feel there is an understanding to leave the guys alone as
    they ride past because they are there because of their sport.

    Look at the anti-terrorist measures being undertaken in Greece. You
    can't get within a mile of a sportman without a ticket and a body
    search. Except for the cyclists who will perform on an open track.
    Cycling breaks all barries, race, religion and wealth. As more and more
    other sportsmen wrap themselves up away from the world the cyclist
    remains in the public eye and the hopeful outcome of this is likely to
    be that cycling becomes the number one sport in the world.

    Garry Jones

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