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  1. My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on the
    stand.
    I have suggested getting worse bikes, but it's hard to see how that
    could be achieved.For several years until recently he didn't even need
    to lock it.
    Recommendations please.
    Does painting it all over with pink emulsion work?
    Removing the saddle?I suppose they are dismantled for parts and the
    thieves steal it before inspecting it.Would a motorbike chain and
    padlock do better or would they just chop the frame?
    He has a folder but for some reason finds it inconvenient.

    TerryJ

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on the
    stand.
    I have suggested getting worse bikes, but it's hard to see how that
    could be achieved.For several years until recently he didn't even need
    to lock it.
    Recommendations please.

    Multiple locks???

    Quoted message said:

    Does painting it all over with pink emulsion work?

    <Linda Barker mode>

    Ooh yes, I can see the Barbie influence there in a tasteful way, with
    ponytails scrunchies in a contrasting shade of yellow around the seatpost
    just setting it off nicely.

    </Linda Barker mode>

    Quoted message said:

    Removing the saddle?I suppose they are dismantled for parts and the
    thieves steal it before inspecting it.Would a motorbike chain and
    padlock do better or would they just chop the frame?

    Anything that is removable should be locked or removed before leaving the
    bike.

    Cheers, helen s

    Quoted message said:

    He has a folder but for some reason finds it inconvenient.

    TerryJ

  3. Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on
    the stand.

    Buy still cheaper bikes and don't bother to lock them? Presumably the bikes
    are less valuable than the £30 locks he has to buy to replace the broken
    ones? Either that or hanging, drawing and quartering of the culprits, and
    displaying their severed heads on sticks to 'discourage the others' (in
    French).

  4. I submit that on or about Thu, 4 Aug 2005 19:46:10 +0100, the person
    known to the court as "wafflycat"
    <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> made a statement
    (<[email hidden]> in Your Honour's bundle) to the
    following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    Ooh yes, I can see the Barbie influence there in a tasteful way, with
    ponytails scrunchies in a contrasting shade of yellow around the seatpost
    just setting it off nicely.

    I think it works really really well...

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  5. "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Either that or hanging, drawing and quartering of the culprits, and
    displaying their severed heads on sticks to 'discourage the others' (in
    French).


    Is that the new alternative to the standard urc punishment?

    Cheers, helen s

  6. wafflycat said:

    "Simonb" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    Either that or hanging, drawing and quartering of the culprits, and
    displaying their severed heads on sticks to 'discourage the others'
    (in French).


    Is that the new alternative to the standard urc punishment?

    It's the new, improved English version.

  7. I submit that on or about 4 Aug 2005 11:29:37 -0700, the person known
    to the court as [email hidden] made a statement
    (<[email hidden]> in Your
    Honour's bundle) to the following effect:

    Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.

    Don't these people /have/ Bromptons? Tchah!

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  8. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Don't these people /have/ Bromptons? Tchah!


    I know you'd mentioned you were thinking of getting one, Guy, but then
    seemed to go quiet. Did you eventually buy one??

    Cheers, helen s

  9. Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on the
    stand.

    It could be that they are all the (common) type of D-lock that can be
    opened with a biro tube. In which case just get a non-vulnerable D-lock.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  10. in message <[email hidden]>,

    (') said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on the
    stand.

    H'mmm... I think the clue is 'London'. Speaking geographically, there's
    at least three quarters of the land area of the British Isles where bike
    theft is vanishingly rare. London hasn't been fit for human occupation
    for many decades.

    Leave.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    There are no messages. The above is just a random stream of
    bytes. Any opinion or meaning you find in it is your own creation.

  11. Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on the
    stand.

    Whinge at the council AND transport for London AND South-west Trains
    AND Network Rail demanding secure cycle parking. Maybe one or another
    will have some money to do something.

    And report all thefts to try to shame the police into doing more.

    Colin McKenzie

  12. Quoted message said:

    Would a motorbike chain and
    padlock do better or would they just chop the frame?

    probably not. Theyre just heavier, the mechanisms are just as vulnerable.

    C+ occasionally reviews locks & a few expensive (>£50) ones survive
    attacks, though some at that price are still rubbish.

  13. Simonb said:
    Quoted message said:

    My brother-in-law leaves a bike at the station in east sheen daily.He
    buys clapped out cheap bikes and puts a 30gbp D lock on, but recently
    every so often the bikes at the station get harvested , presumably by
    the professional skalliwags with a van.I am told that the locks appear
    to be hardly damaged in the process and are left hanging in rows on
    the stand.

    Buy still cheaper bikes and don't bother to lock them? Presumably the bikes
    are less valuable than the £30 locks he has to buy to replace the broken
    ones? Either that or hanging, drawing and quartering of the culprits, and
    displaying their severed heads on sticks to 'discourage the others' (in
    French).


    There used to be one of those on the corner of the rue St Jacques & the
    rue des Fossés St Jaques in Paris (a replica I suppose) but even that
    got nicked in Mai 1968...
    All the best
    Dan Gregory

  14. "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Don't these people /have/ Bromptons? Tchah!


    I know you'd mentioned you were thinking of getting one, Guy, but then
    seemed to go quiet. Did you eventually buy one??

    Cheers, helen s

    Keep up luv ...

    (see thread 03/08/05 18:54 25 Miles by Brom)

  15. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Keep up luv ...

    (see thread 03/08/05 18:54 25 Miles by Brom)

    You mean Guy has mentioned buying Brommie? Surely not often ;-)

    Cheers, helen s

  16. wafflycat said:

    You mean Guy has mentioned buying Brommie? Surely not often ;-)

    Nope not often, and he hasn't "said" [fold-unfold fold-unfold] either
    :o)

    --
    yours S

    Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione

  17. elyob said:

    "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I know you'd mentioned you were thinking of getting one, Guy, but then
    seemed to go quiet. Did you eventually buy one??

    Cheers, helen s

    Keep up luv ...

    (see thread 03/08/05 18:54 25 Miles by Brom)

    Are you sure that wasn't a fictional account? After all folding was not
    mentioned once is the tale which would be unheard of for a real Bromtonista.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  18. "wafflycat" <waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Keep up luv ...

    (see thread 03/08/05 18:54 25 Miles by Brom)

    You mean Guy has mentioned buying Brommie? Surely not often ;-)

    Oh, now *I* get it! ...

  19. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Oh, now *I* get it! ...

    :-D

  20. On 08/05/2005 10:51:59 'wafflycat' waffles*A*T*v21net*D*O*T*co*D*O*T*uk said:

    "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Keep up luv ...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (see thread 03/08/05 18:54 25 Miles by Brom)

    Quoted message said:

    You mean Guy has mentioned buying Brommie? Surely not often ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers, helen s

    Has someone on here got a Brompton then?

    --

    Buck

    I would rather be out on my Catrike

    http://www.catrike.co.uk

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