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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
top ten again today.

Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe someone of
his caliber would quit so early..., or at all! He should've
tried to finish even if he wasn't really in the spirit of
being competitive. It would've been one more TdF under his
belt and probably some good base training too. McEwen looked
comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this year.

Dave

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
the top ten again today.

Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe someone
of his caliber would quit so early..., or at all! He
should've tried to finish even if

he

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wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
would've been one

more

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TdF under his belt and probably some good base training
too. McEwen

looked

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comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great
this year.

That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a race
car with a flat tire.

The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
comment on.

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives
there, the country

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the other side of the planet, it is far too hot to
train and yet

they've

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just placed two guys in the top ten again today.

Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
someone of his

caliber

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would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried to
finish even if

he

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wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
would've been one

more

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TdF under his belt and probably some good base training
too. McEwen

looked

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comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great
this year.

That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a
race car with a

flat

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tire.

The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
comment on.

Don't get your panties all bunched up, Carl. McGee has fans
(like myself) that want to watch him on TV for a change.
Ditto for McEwen. That's all.

Dave

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
top ten again today.

When it comes to sport (any sport) we want to have a go, and
if the podium seems unattainable, so much the better.

Wish we could apply that attitude to a few other things that
need fixing round the place,

best, Andrew

"But riding is my special gift, my chiefest, sole delight;
Just ask a wild duck can it swim, a wildcat can it fight...
I'll ride this here two-wheeled concern, right straight
away, at sight." A B 'Banjo' Patterson - "Mulga Bill" 25
July 1896.

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Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
someone of his

caliber

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would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried
to finish even

if

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he

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wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
would've been

one

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more

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TdF under his belt and probably some good base
training too. McEwen

looked

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comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this
year.

That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a
race car with a

flat

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tire.

The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
comment on.

Don't get your panties all bunched up, Carl. McGee has
fans (like myself) that want to watch him on TV for a
change. Ditto for McEwen. That's all.

Sorry 'bout that. I didn't pick up on your frustration as a
fan as the reason for your comments. Given the dumb
comments about Petacchi and Cipo today, I thought this was
more of the same.

As a rider, McGee absolutely did the proper thing by
retiring from the race. As I understand his pride,
determination, and desire for success, I'm sure he DNS'd
only as the last option. Carrying on in the race would not
have been beneficial for him or FdJ. He risked making the
injury worse and prolonging the healing time by continuing.
Base training would also be much more beneficial when
healthy. The experience of another TdF under those
conditions would not likely have much value to a healthy
racer. Having him continue would be an unnecessary drain to
team resources, be it teammates assisting him at times,
staff having to wait for him at the finish, or to adding to
the fatigue of therapists and mechanics who would look after
him. Other than tactical advice, it was unlikely that McGee
could have contributed to the success of the team. As pack
filler, he would have only been shown on TV in a pitiful
state much like Jimmi Casper last year with his neck brace,
something I'm sure he would rather not endure. McGee had
nothing to gain by continuing simply for the sake of
continuing.

I'm not saying, "Good riddance." that he's out of the race.
Quite the contrary. I consider him to be a magnificent
rider. I wish he could have stayed in as well as Petacchi,
and I wish riders like Vino could have started, too. Makes
for a much more enjoyable show.

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
top ten again today.

Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
top ten again today.

Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
top ten again today.

When it comes to sport (any sport) we want to have a go,
and if the podium seems unattainable, so much the better.

It seems pretty much everyone in Oz must be a sportman given
their sucess in other areas. I know the Aussies have a long
history in the tour but it is still very impressive.

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
the top ten again today.

Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too.
They catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.

Or they send them to NY... Like the Dirty Digger. :-)

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> Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
> someone of his

caliber

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> would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried
> to finish even

if

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he
> wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
> would've been

one

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more
> TdF under his belt and probably some good base
> training too. McEwen
looked
> comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this
> year.
>

I'd have thought the only person happy to see him continue
would be Bradley Wiggins...

Regards! Stephen

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How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
the top ten again today.

Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too.
They catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.

Canberra is in Australia, not Europe. Read it again. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

Marty

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Originally posted by David Off
How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there, the
country is the other side of the planet, it is far too hot
to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the top ten
again today.

Having lived in the land of Oz since 1983, moved from Canada at age 12, I can say there is one reason how we do it.

Sun, most of the country has great weather for 8 months of the year. The other 4 are evenly split between really hot, 30 deg Celsius plus, or unpleasently cold, 10 deg or less.😎

This give you lots of time to train or just have fun.🙂

jcjordan said:

Having lived in the land of Oz since 1983, moved from
Canada at age 12, I can say there is one reason how
we do it.

Sun, most of the country has great weather for 8 months of
the year. The other 4 are evenly split between really hot,
30 deg Celsius plus, or unpleasently cold, 10 deg or
less.😎

If you think 10 degrees is unpleasantly cold, I think you
forgot a lot from your years in Canada.

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Canberra is in Australia, not Europe. Read it again. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

But you do have to admit that the French are a little
disadvantaged in this regard. They're already there.....

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Canberra is in Australia, not Europe. Read it again.
They catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

But you do have to admit that the French are a little
disadvantaged in

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regard. They're already there.....

Their drugs don't seem to do much good anyway.

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It seems pretty much everyone in Oz must be a sportman

Actually I think we currently run second in the world to the
US in adult obesity and just took first in the number of
hideously lardy kids we're ferrying about in 4WDs so the
little darlings turn into globs of grease and die of heart
attacks at 35.

The biggest factor is Australia's sporting success is that
the gummint spends money on elite sport through the AIS,
whereas, (and I am sure someone will correct me if I have
this wrong) there's no such federal expenditure in the US.

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It seems pretty much everyone in Oz must be a sportman

Actually I think we currently run second in the world to
the US in adult obesity and just took first in the number
of hideously lardy kids we're ferrying about in 4WDs so
the little darlings turn into globs of grease and die of
heart attacks at 35.

The biggest factor is Australia's sporting success is that
the gummint spends money on elite sport through the AIS,
whereas, (and I am sure someone will correct me if I have
this wrong) there's no such federal expenditure in the US.

The US gummint generally stays the heck out of sports, even
when it is in the sole position to mediate or legislate
things. The use of performance enhancing drugs is Sporting
Fraud in many countries, but in the US it gets a finger
waggled at it and the gummint only expresses interest in
prosecution of use of outlawed drugs.

The argument goes that the sport will take care of itself.
They do, but sometimes I think a general law on doping or
thuggery would give authorities some teeth, after all,
sports provides a lot of role models. Shame so many of them
aren't very good.

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Bjcjordan said:

Having lived in the land of Oz since 1983, moved from
Canada at age 12, I can say there is one reason how
we do it.

Sun, most of the country has great weather for 8 months of
the year. The other 4 are evenly split between really hot,
30 deg Celsius plus, or unpleasently cold, 10 deg or
less.😎

If you think 10 degrees is unpleasantly cold, I think you
forgot a lot from your years in Canada. [/B]

Admitatly 10 is upleasent when sitting around doing nothing, but quite nice out on the bike. You get to play 'train' and make steam come out your mouth, may not be funny here but it had a riding partner in stiches a week ago.😄

One thing I do remember from Canada is the snow. Having only seen it once in Australia, I can say i never want to see the stuff again.

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It seems pretty much everyone in Oz must be a sportman

Actually I think we currently run second in the world to
the US in adult obesity and just took first in the number
of hideously lardy kids we're ferrying about in 4WDs so
the little darlings turn into globs of grease

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die of heart attacks at 35.

The biggest factor is Australia's sporting success is that
the gummint spends money on elite sport through the AIS,
whereas, (and I am sure someone will correct me if I have
this wrong) there's no such federal expenditure in the US.

When you go to the footy there's 40 blokes running around on
the oval, (I'm talkiing Aussie footy here), and 40 000
spectators sitting in the stands. Obesity will disappear
when we have 40 000 people running around on the oval and
only 40 people in the stands.

Marty