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  1. Pavlova

    Hi there - I recorded a mini pavlova recipe from a top NZ restaurant
    cook the other day and followed the recipe diligently. I don't need
    to describe the method - it's fairly standard. It was the cooking
    that was the problem. The recipe required 30mins at 150 deg C and
    then reduced to 130 deg C for a further 30 mins. Remove.

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I want to know if I should have cooked them using the conventional
    oven method and not anything to do with the fan.

    Be glad of any help guys.

    Cheers

    Daisy

    Carthage demands an explanation for this insolence!

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Pavlova

    Hi there - I recorded a mini pavlova recipe from a top NZ restaurant
    cook the other day and followed the recipe diligently. I don't need
    to describe the method - it's fairly standard. It was the cooking
    that was the problem. The recipe required 30mins at 150 deg C and
    then reduced to 130 deg C for a further 30 mins. Remove.

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I want to know if I should have cooked them using the conventional
    oven method and not anything to do with the fan.

    Be glad of any help guys.

    Cheers

    Daisy

    I looked it up in my Edmonds Cookbook (the Standard Antipodean Hausfrau
    Reference) - all it says to cook pav. slowly at around 250 degrees F for
    1 to 1 1/2 hours. I expect this will be in a conventional oven the way
    it's framed. (also considering the age of my book - it dates back to
    _before_ fan ovens).

    h.t.h. -Peter

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    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

  3. Peter Huebner said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Pavlova

    Hi there - I recorded a mini pavlova recipe from a top NZ restaurant
    cook the other day and followed the recipe diligently. I don't need
    to describe the method - it's fairly standard. It was the cooking
    that was the problem. The recipe required 30mins at 150 deg C and
    then reduced to 130 deg C for a further 30 mins. Remove.

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I want to know if I should have cooked them using the conventional
    oven method and not anything to do with the fan.

    Be glad of any help guys.

    Cheers

    Daisy

    I looked it up in my Edmonds Cookbook (the Standard Antipodean Hausfrau
    Reference) - all it says to cook pav. slowly at around 250 degrees F for
    1 to 1 1/2 hours. I expect this will be in a conventional oven the way
    it's framed. (also considering the age of my book - it dates back to
    _before_ fan ovens).

    h.t.h. -Peter

    --
    =========================================
    firstname dot lastname at gmail fullstop com

    The 1992 Edmonds Cookbook states preheat oven to 180C. Place pavlova
    in oven and turn down to 100C. Bake one hour. Turn oven off, open oven
    door slightly, an leave pavlova in oven till cold. (A lower
    temperature than Peter's version above. He's probably got an older
    book). However, ask 10 Kiwi or Aussie cooks and they'd probably have
    10 different oven temperature recommendations. The key is cook at a
    very low temperature for about an hour. I used to cook mine at 150C
    for 15 mins then turned the oven off and left it there till I
    remembered it later in the day.

    Nowadays I make individual pavs (8 eggs divided into 8 pavs) and cook
    them at 100C for 1 to 1 /14 hours.

    I would not use fan bake.

    Also, since the pavs are usually topped with whipped cream and fruit
    before serving, you don't need to stress too much if they crack. It
    will all be covered.

    Kathy in NZ

  4. G'day Daisy,

    For total confusion (assuming replies to date haven't quite succeeded
    in creating that 🙂 may I suggest you ask in the newly created group
    aus.food? [Which I've cross-posted this to].

    However, I'm not entirely sure any of the inaugural residents of
    aus.food will be up to offering reliable advice on pavlovas. ;-)

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Pavlova

    Hi there - I recorded a mini pavlova recipe from a top NZ restaurant
    cook the other day and followed the recipe diligently. I don't need
    to describe the method - it's fairly standard. It was the cooking
    that was the problem. The recipe required 30mins at 150 deg C and
    then reduced to 130 deg C for a further 30 mins. Remove.

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I want to know if I should have cooked them using the conventional
    oven method and not anything to do with the fan.

    Be glad of any help guys.

    Cheers, Phred.

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    [email hidden]

  5. "Phred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi there - I recorded a mini pavlova recipe from a top NZ restaurant
    cook the other day and followed the recipe diligently. I don't need
    to describe the method - it's fairly standard. It was the cooking
    that was the problem. The recipe required 30mins at 150 deg C and
    then reduced to 130 deg C for a further 30 mins. Remove.

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I want to know if I should have cooked them using the conventional
    oven method and not anything to do with the fan.

    Be glad of any help guys.


    The oven temps and times mentioned are longer than I cook my large pavs for.
    I use a conventional oven and I do a large pav with 6 egg whites at 150 for
    15 mins and then 100 for 45 mins and then turn the oven off and leave in
    there until cold.

    I would suggest not using the fan and trying 150 for 15 mins and then 130
    for 15 mins and then turning the oven off and leaving there for an hour or
    so. It has taken me a while to get the results I wanted.

    Good luck.

    Aussie Lurker

  6. Mi e' parso che Daisy abbia scritto:

    Quoted message said:

    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.

    Here's the error: either the recipe clearly states that you have
    to use fan, or you just don't use it.
    --
    Vilco
    Think Pink , Drink Rose'

  7. Daisy <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Pavlova

    Quoted message said:


    No oven option was mentioned. I cooked them on fan force.
    They cracked all over the place. The insides were nice and
    marshmallowy but the shapes had gone.

    I've never used a fan oven, but I remember being told that soft, fluffy
    things like pav or sponge should not be cooked with the fan (at least at
    first), as the breeze will blow the delicate mix around. I remember a tray
    of cupcakes whose tops all bent sideways from the fan - I forget who made
    them.

    Good luck 🙂

    K

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