Aussies are fatter than Americans

Chris B. said:

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

Oddly, no-one who's lived under robber barons has ever said that.
But even the extremely comfortable and unoppressed find things
to complain about.

--
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Michael Warner said:

Chris B. said:

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

Oddly, no-one who's lived under robber barons has ever said that.
But even the extremely comfortable and unoppressed find things
to complain about.

ESPECIALLY the extremely comfortable and unoppressed find things to
complain about!

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:15:03 +1030, Michael Warner <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Chris B. said:

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

Oddly, no-one who's lived under robber barons has ever said that.

Your gift of omnipresence must make you very proud.

Quoted message said:

But even the extremely comfortable and unoppressed find things
to complain about.

It's true that Australians are well insulated.

--
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber-
baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they
do so with the approval of their own conscience."

- C.S. Lewis

Chris B. said:

<http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11450540^421,00.html>

Wonders if this was a "size # to size #" comparison and do we have the
same sizing. Not in shoes at least.

Also wonders what stupid store owner[2] doesn't look at the sizes they
are actually selling and buy in more of the sizes they sell. Or is the
purchaser a granny shopping in teenie-bopper shop(?)[3]

Quoted message said:

My recommendation is a manditory ambulation helmet law so that head
injuries are not incurred during the keeling-over stage of MI.

MI = ?

[1] number
[2] Don't answer, I can guess; chain stores where the manager is told
what they will sell.
[3] male version?

Mark Hickey said:

ESPECIALLY the extremely comfortable and unoppressed find things to
complain about!

Well, under our Constitution they're free to pursue their happiness, whatever
that means *to them*...

There's sure a lot of complaining going on in my hometown of Newport Beach, CA.
From the way they talk, you'd think those people were literally under attack.
It's laughable (and kind of pathetic) to hear people who live in $3M houses
(which they bought for $200k) [censored] about "oppressive" 15% capital gains taxes,
and $3/gal gasoline for their $80k Jaguars.

Meanwhile, engineers with advanced degrees stoically sit hours in traffic to put
in 70 hour weeks, only to pay half their incomes in federal and state income
taxes, and have to save for 10 years to afford two-bedroom apartment condos.
Ah, but the thrill of building the future...

Matt O.

Terry Collins said:

Chris B. said:

<http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11450540^421,00.html>

Quoted message said:

Wonders if this was a "size # to size #" comparison and do we have

the

Quoted message said:

same sizing. Not in shoes at least.

.... hell no. Country Road sells clothes with a label that reads:
Australia 10, USA 6. (I've seen them both in Australia and the US.)

Quoted message said:

Also wonders what stupid store owner[2] doesn't look at the sizes

they

Quoted message said:

are actually selling and buy in more of the sizes they sell. Or is

the

Quoted message said:

purchaser a granny shopping in teenie-bopper shop(?)[3]

In Western countries, there's a correlation between obesity and low
SES.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My recommendation is a manditory ambulation helmet law so that head
injuries are not incurred during the keeling-over stage of MI.

MI = ?

Heart attack.

[2][3] NMF.

Chris B. said:

<http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11450540^421,00.html>

My recommendation is a manditory ambulation helmet law so that head
injuries are not incurred during the keeling-over stage of MI.

--
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber-
baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they
do so with the approval of their own conscience."

- C.S. Lewis

I read it as Aussies are faster than Americans...
'Nuff said.

Terry Collins said:

Chris B. said:

<http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11450540^421,00.html>

Wonders if this was a "size # to size #" comparison and do we have the
same sizing. Not in shoes at least.

It is well-known that North American dress sizes have been subject to
inflation. I have a friend who wore size 8 30 years ago. She's now
7 pounds heavier and wears size 4.

In Asia (judged from Hong Kong), however, I'm told they seem to have
stuck to the old dress sizing, so there are several size schemes that
sound the same but aren't.

Quoted message said:

Also wonders what stupid store owner[2] doesn't look at the sizes they
are actually selling and buy in more of the sizes they sell. Or is the
purchaser a granny shopping in teenie-bopper shop(?)[3]

I do know that in Hong Kong, if you want something bigger than about
size 12, most places won't carry them and you'll get sent to special
(more expensive) shops that cater to fat people. And if you try to get
the same thing across the border from Hong Kong in mainland China you
won't find it anywhere. Perhaps Australian stores buy from the (cheap)
factories producing for the Asian domestic market, and hence have trouble
getting bigger sizes at a price they like?

Dennis Ferguson

Dennis Ferguson said:

Perhaps Australian stores buy from the (cheap)
factories producing for the Asian domestic market, and hence have trouble
getting bigger sizes at a price they like?

My understanding (and working experience) is that the producers get told
what the stores want. In one chain I worked for, the sales figures are
added up daily (design, colour, size) and orders produced[1] and sent to
manufacturers based on those figures.

[1] modified by fashion, season, product line decisions.

These orders are very number specific, and delivery date specific. It
isn't called the sweat shop industry for nothing.

A similar example could be in nuts. If you sell 500g, 1kg, 5kg & 10kg
bags of prepackaged nuts, then you would be rather silly to continue to
order 10kg & 5kg bags if you only sold a few, but always sold out of
500g bags as soon as you stocked them. You would probably even order
more 500g and even 250g bags as a trial. It might turn out that your
customers are buying for snacks/lunch, rather than to take home.

Johnny O-R said:

Chris B. said:

<http://www.themercury.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,11450540^421,00.html>

My recommendation is a manditory ambulation helmet law so that head
injuries are not incurred during the keeling-over stage of MI.

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Quoted message said:

I read it as Aussies are -faster -than Americans...

You might want to keep an eye on your condition:

"SCIENTISTS FILL THE GAPS IN VISUAL DISORDER
A bizarre neurological condition in which sufferers ignore half of
their visual worlds has been explained for the first time by
scientists.

Patients with the disorder, known as visual neglect and brought on by
head injuries or strokes, fail to see half of what is before their
eyes, even though their sight and the parts of the brain that process
it are intact. They ignore anything in either the left or right
hemisphere of their field of vision, often causing them to eat only
half of the food on their plate, or to deny that their limbs belong to
them.

Though scientists have long understood that the condition must be
provoked by some sort of brain damage, as it is almost always
triggered by an injury, the precise cause has been elusive.

New research in the United States has now revealed that visual neglect
stems from damage to a brain area called the basal ganglia, blocking
signals that allow the visual cortex to function properly."

http://www.bnn-online.co.uk/news_datesearch.asp?page=2&SearchDate=26/Jun/2003&Year=2003

The "eat only half of the food on their plate" business should help
with the obesity problem but you don't really want to be continually
walking into door frames either!

Wear your helmets 24 hours a day or be thought of as a fool.

Quoted message said:

'Nuff said.

Half of 'enough'!

--
"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under
robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber-
baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who
torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they
do so with the approval of their own conscience."

- C.S. Lewis