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  1. Trekked down to Bright again this year for the AAC (see
    www.audax.org.au/alpine for ride profiles etc). Had a go at the 130km
    this year after doing the 100km in 2002 (2003 was burnt out by bushfires).

    The day started chilly (arm warmers were the go) but soon warmed up to
    beautiful cycling weather, although it did get quite hot around midday.

    Saw people on all kinds of bikes - road/tri, MTB (knobbly and slick),
    hybrid, tandem, recumbent (OK, there weren't any BMXs, penny farthings,
    or unis).

    The first climb up Tawonga Gap after about 20km was in the cool of the
    morning, and with a steady and not too steep gradient, it was just a
    case of getting into a rhythm and spinning up it (I have a triple on my
    road bike).

    The climb up Falls Creek was nothing like Mt Buffalo in the 100km ride.
    Falls goes up and down like a yo-yo, whereas (IIRC) Buffalo is a steady
    1:20 for 20km. If anything, the occasional descents on the ascent of
    Falls made it harder, as the legs would go idle and then have to get
    back to work again later. My friend and I climbed Falls in the way we
    did Tawonga One, well within ourselves at a pretty cruisey 70-odd % of
    max HR (not that I know what mine actually is - I identify with hippy's
    thread on this).

    Had a relaxed food/drink/loo/sunscreen break at Falls top station,
    slipped the arm warmers back on for the descent (welcome but not
    absolutely necessary at 11am). Got plenty of descending/cornering
    practice on those lovely Victorian road surfaces (seriously, they [censored]
    on most NSW roads I ride on).

    The last climb back over Tawonga had filled us with some pre-ride
    trepidation (both of us having driven but never ridden it), but it
    wasn't as bad as we had dreaded, either because it wasn't actually that
    bad, or we had dreaded it too much, or simply because we went so easy on
    the first two climbs and had plenty left (even for a
    testosterone-fuelled KOM sprint at the end!).

    A few quick whoops of joy and we were plummeting back down the other
    side to pedal the last 10 or so clicks back to Bright and the "salad
    roll/fruitcake/quartered-orange" combo that seems de rigeur on mass
    organised rides.

    All in all a very enjoyable outing (although our two friends who did the
    200km didn't enjoy themselves quite so much!). Major thanks and hats off
    to the many Audax volunteers who did a sterling and in many cases
    thankless job, always with a smile.

    Maybe in 2005 I'll have a crack at the dreaded 200...

    &roo

  2. Whoops, forgot the stats for those interested in this kind of thing:

    - Total elapsed time (7:00am - 1:52pm): 6:52 @ 18.9km/h avg (including
    two food/drink stops and a handful of
    clothing/stretching/weeing/mysterious-noise-from-front-wheel stops)

    - Time spent riding: 5:51 @ 22.2km/h

    - Max speed: 68km/h

    - Energy expended (according to my HRM): 2322 kcal = 9715 kj = 19 K-time
    bars!

    &roo

  3. Andrew Swan said:

    Whoops, forgot the stats for those interested in this kind of thing:

    Quoted message said:

    - Total elapsed time (7:00am - 1:52pm): 6:52 @ 18.9km/h avg (including
    two food/drink stops and a handful of
    clothing/stretching/weeing/mysterious-noise-from-front-wheel stops)

    Quoted message said:

    - Time spent riding: 5:51 @ 22.2km/h

    Quoted message said:

    - Max speed: 68km/h

    Quoted message said:

    - Energy expended (according to my HRM): 2322 kcal = 9715 kj = 19 K-time
    bars!

    Quoted message said:

    &roo

    Andrew,
    Does your HRM tell you max and average?

    Well done, I did the 100km a few years ago and that took me
    about 5.5 hours. The climb up Buffalo was certainly a challenge.

    --
    Nick

  4. "Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Whoops, forgot the stats for those interested in this kind of thing:

    - Total elapsed time (7:00am - 1:52pm): 6:52 @ 18.9km/h avg (including
    two food/drink stops and a handful of
    clothing/stretching/weeing/mysterious-noise-from-front-wheel stops)

    - Time spent riding: 5:51 @ 22.2km/h

    - Max speed: 68km/h

    - Energy expended (according to my HRM): 2322 kcal = 9715 kj = 19 K-time
    bars!

    &roo

    Congratulations,

    All the rides are a challenge up that way. I did the 200km and rode 20kms
    of the Buffalo climb with legs cramping. I had to stop at the water stop
    2/3 the way up to give the legs a break and dowse myself with water.

    I recovered on the descent and was able to finish by 3pm. It was
    particularly difficult without much tree cover on the climb up Buffalo.
    Also the lack of ground cover grasses and lichen exposed a lot of rock that
    reflected heat and light.

    I hear a rider hit a wallaby on the Falls descent while travelling at
    ~50kmph Ouch! A couple also took a detour on the return to Bright down the
    Tawonga Gap. I was flagged down by a young guy who had run off the road,
    flatted and had no pump! He was shaking so much from coming off that he
    could not change the tyre.

    It was a great weekend with bicycles everywhere you looked.

    I will be back next year.

    Kevin

  5. NickZX6R said:

    Andrew,
    Does your HRM tell you max and average?

    Nope, but from staring at the thing all day, I'd guess a max of 180 and
    an avg in the low 150s... (out of an HR max of 190-odd, who knows these
    things?)

    &roo

  6. Hmmm, is Skillsy still out there....

    _____________________________________________
    Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for th
    pub_bug group

    Its the Alpine Classic this weekend and I intend to be Lantern Roug
    (last place) for the epic 200km

    I tend to start singing aloud but which songs... The decision is yours
    other tunes considered Skills

    o Radio Birdman - Alone in the End Zone o Saints - I'm Stranded
    Screaming Tribesman - Ice o SunnyBoys - This is real o God - M
    Pal o Hoodoo Gurus - A thousand Miles away o Jo Jo Zep - Shape I
    in o X - Suck

    To vote, please visit the following web page
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pub_bug/surveys?id=124710

    -

  7. Andrew Swan said:

    Trekked down to Bright again this year for the AAC (see
    www.audax.org.au/alpine for ride profiles etc). <snip> Major thanks and
    hats off to the many Audax volunteers who did a sterling and in many
    cases thankless job, always with a smile.
    Maybe in 2005 I'll have a crack at the dreaded 200...
    &roo

    I also made the annual pilgrimage to Bright for the AAC. Did the new 10
    km route, harder IMO than the old 100. Also first time on my road bik
    and much faster. I was wary of not having a triple set & accompanyin
    low gears but climbed quite well without them. The road bike climbs a
    twice the speed of my MTB & I finished in 4:52, more than an hou
    quicker than my last attempt. Hmmm.. the 200 next year? maybe the 130

    I echo the thanks to the many AUDAX club volunteers for their work o
    the event

    -

  8. I did the 85k - it was a hard slog with plenty of extra weight (trimming
    down EVEN MORE for next year)

    Mt Buffalo doesnt let up! Ouch! And doing this while recovering from a viral
    infection isnt a good idea either....

    I completed it in 6 hours 10mins (total time on the bike was 5 hours 9mins)
    so about an half an hour resting, then more time stopping on the climb to
    offload snot, cough up lurgies, and stretch....averaged about 18k/ph

  9. I did the 100km on the MTB in 4 hours...8th to the top..not that its
    race thoug

    -

  10. Jess said:

    I did the 85k - it was a hard slog with plenty of extra weight (trimming
    down EVEN MORE for next year)
    Mt Buffalo doesnt let up! Ouch! And doing this while recovering from a
    viral infection isnt a good idea either....
    I completed it in 6 hours 10mins (total time on the bike was 5 hours
    9mins) so about an half an hour resting, then more time stopping on
    the climb to offload snot, cough up lurgies, and stretch....averaged
    about 18k/ph

    I did the 100 in 6 hrs 5 mins with lots of waiting for my wife:-) (she
    doesn't read this group so it's safe to say that here). Hope to do the
    100 next year in 5 hours if I can lose 5-7 kg from the 'engine'. Buffalo
    is not as tough as Donna Buang but easier IMHO than Falls Creek.

    I was nearly cleaned up by some ****wit in a white Disco who overtook
    some riders on the wrong (my side) of the road around a blind corner
    whilst I was descending. It missed me by about a metre. I stopped at the
    bottom and 3 out of 4 others who stopped had a similar experience with
    the same idiot.

    The guy who hit the wallaby was descending Buffalo. When an
    ambulance raced up the mountain I thought the Disco had finally
    collected somebody.

    I was spurred on when I saw a friend of mine close to the summit just as
    I was starting my descent - he was nearly at the top of Buffalo but he
    was doing the 200! Not bad for 41 (he was 5th or 6th to finish the 200 I
    think). Buggered if I was going to finish behind him:-)

    --

  11. Was a great day for it! My first attempt and did the 130km also. 5 hour
    and 1 minute with 4 hrs 52 mins on the bike. Av speed 26.7 km/hr. Av H
    151 and max HR 172. Was very happy to get to Bright

    I saw the guy who hit the wallaby, he did not look well

    -

  12. Definition of a hardcore AAC masochist:

    Sunday 2:30pm - "I swear I'll never put myself through this much (#*&ing
    pain again ...."

    Monday 2:30pm - Rebooks accomodation for next year and starts thinking
    about a better training programme ....

    Did the 200 for the ~6th time. Elapsed time of 9:52, same as 2 years
    ago. The new turnaround point at Buffalo adds about 15mins ride time
    (+additional mental anguish) so I guess this was an improvement, but it
    felt a lot harder than previous efforts. Riding time was 8:58, av HR
    152, most of climbing in the 160-165 range. Was trying to ride to a 9:00
    (elapsed) schedule but blew out over 30mins on Buffalo which was mostly
    a painful 10-11 kph crawl in 39/25. With fresh legs I would normally do
    Buff at about 14-15kph. Have never seen so many riders stopped or
    walking up the top sections of Buffalo as I descended.

    --

  13. patch70 said:

    Was a great day for it! My first attempt and did the 130km also. 5 hours
    and 1 minute with 4 hrs 52 mins on the bike. Av speed 26.7 km/hr. Av HR
    151 and max HR 172. Was very happy to get to Bright.

    I saw the guy who hit the wallaby, he did not look well.

    Was it one of the forwards or one of the backs?

    &roo

  14. "Unregistered" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Definition of a hardcore AAC masochist:

    Sunday 2:30pm - "I swear I'll never put myself through this much (#*&ing
    pain again ...."

    Monday 2:30pm - Rebooks accomodation for next year and starts thinking
    about a better training programme ....

    Did the 200 for the ~6th time. Elapsed time of 9:52, same as 2 years
    ago. The new turnaround point at Buffalo adds about 15mins ride time
    (+additional mental anguish) so I guess this was an improvement, but it
    felt a lot harder than previous efforts. Riding time was 8:58, av HR
    152, most of climbing in the 160-165 range. Was trying to ride to a 9:00
    (elapsed) schedule but blew out over 30mins on Buffalo which was mostly
    a painful 10-11 kph crawl in 39/25. With fresh legs I would normally do
    Buff at about 14-15kph. Have never seen so many riders stopped or
    walking up the top sections of Buffalo as I descended.

    --


    Sounds just like me! It was tough, I rebooked and I am reviewing the
    training programme for next year! Hell, how did you know?

    I did it 2 years back and the course was identical except for the extra
    distance on Buffalo. It certainly adds time/difficulty to the course.

    I reckon the water stop near the top of Buffalo was manned by an "Audax
    Angel" the face/neck and leg spray was a real hit. I was really struggling
    with cramp until I revived on the water truck.

    Great Ride.

    Kevin

  15. Andrew Swan said:

    Trekked down to Bright again this year for the AAC (see
    www.audax.org.au/alpine for ride profiles etc). Had a go at the 130km
    this year after doing the 100km in 2002 (2003 was burnt out by
    bushfires).
    The day started chilly (arm warmers were the go) but soon warmed up to
    beautiful cycling weather, although it did get quite hot around midday.
    Saw people on all kinds of bikes - road/tri, MTB (knobbly and slick),
    hybrid, tandem, recumbent (OK, there weren't any BMXs, penny
    farthings, or unis).
    The first climb up Tawonga Gap after about 20km was in the cool of the
    morning, and with a steady and not too steep gradient, it was just a
    case of getting into a rhythm and spinning up it (I have a triple on my
    road bike).
    The climb up Falls Creek was nothing like Mt Buffalo in the 100km ride.
    Falls goes up and down like a yo-yo, whereas (IIRC) Buffalo is a steady
    1:20 for 20km. If anything, the occasional descents on the ascent of
    Falls made it harder, as the legs would go idle and then have to get
    back to work again later. My friend and I climbed Falls in the way we
    did Tawonga One, well within ourselves at a pretty cruisey 70-odd % of
    max HR (not that I know what mine actually is - I identify with
    hippy's thread on this).
    Had a relaxed food/drink/loo/sunscreen break at Falls top station,
    slipped the arm warmers back on for the descent (welcome but not
    absolutely necessary at 11am). Got plenty of descending/cornering
    practice on those lovely Victorian road surfaces (seriously, they [censored]
    on most NSW roads I ride on).
    The last climb back over Tawonga had filled us with some pre-ride
    trepidation (both of us having driven but never ridden it), but it
    wasn't as bad as we had dreaded, either because it wasn't actually that
    bad, or we had dreaded it too much, or simply because we went so easy on
    the first two climbs and had plenty left (even for a testosterone-
    fuelled KOM sprint at the end!).
    A few quick whoops of joy and we were plummeting back down the other
    side to pedal the last 10 or so clicks back to Bright and the "salad roll/fruitcake/quartered-
    orange" combo that seems de rigeur on mass organised rides.
    All in all a very enjoyable outing (although our two friends who did the
    200km didn't enjoy themselves quite so much!). Major thanks and hats off
    to the many Audax volunteers who did a sterling and in many cases
    thankless job, always with a smile.
    Maybe in 2005 I'll have a crack at the dreaded 200...
    &roo

    Hey Swanny...those sure are some impressive numbers your HRm is quoting
    at you. 2300 calories for 6 hrs cycling???....Either you have a super
    heart under load....or you're dead!...lets hope its the former.!. i did
    the 200 & it was 'suffer city' this year....never again! (but that what
    i said last year too!) Cheers

    --

  16. If you really wanted to get ready for next year's Alpine Challenge
    you could take part in one of the many other long distance rides that
    AUDAX organises all over Australia. You can find details of the rides
    and membership of AUDAX here http://www.audax.org.au AUDAX members
    get discounts on entry fees and early entry options for the Alpine.
    Pete Canberra

    --

  17. Andrew Swan said:

    Was it one of the forwards or one of the backs?

    From the look of the guy and his concussion, I'd say it must've been
    2nd row-er

    -

  18. K&C Russell said:

    The new turnaround point

    Quoted message said:

    at Buffalo adds about 15mins ride time (+additional mental anguish) so
    I guess this was an improvement, but it felt a lot harder than
    previous efforts.


    IKevin

    boy, your legs were fresh if the extra kms on the plateau only took yo
    15 mins return

    -

  19. ProfTournesol said:

    boy, your legs were fresh if the extra kms on the plateau only took you
    15 mins return!

    No, it took a bit longer than that, but 15 minutes is the extra tim
    relative to riding from The Gap up to the Chalet and back, which was th
    previous route on the plateau

    Believe me there was nothing fresh about this rider by this poin
    in the day

    -

  20. Unregistered said:

    No, it took a bit longer than that, but 15 minutes is the extra time
    relative to riding from The Gap up to the Chalet and back, which was the
    previous route on the plateau.
    Believe me there was nothing fresh about this rider by this point
    in the day!

    tell me about it:-

    -

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