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  1. Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

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    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    Three strikes and you're out:

    Strike one: they procrastinated so long getting everything done that nobody
    really thought they'd pull it off (though it appears they've pulled if off
    rather nicely).

    Strike two: As I understand it, all their hotels jacked their rates
    sky-high and people said, "no thanks."

    Strike three: Threat of terrorism.

    Bob C.

  3. Quoted message said:

    From: "psycholist" [email hidden]

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    Strike three: Threat of terrorism.

    Bob C.

    I'd add Strike four: A complete lack of faith in the peoples minds that the
    IOC/greek security forces could protect them.
    Bill C

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    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    NBC's Bob Costas explained some of this last night. August is the
    traditional month of holidays in Greece, and today is a big religious
    holiday in the Greek Orthodox church, both of which are helping contribute
    to keeping the Athenians away during the first few days.

    They expect attendance to be better later.

    We'll see.

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  5. "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    NBC's Bob Costas explained some of this last night. August is the
    traditional month of holidays in Greece,

    And going to the Olympics isn't worth spending part of your holiday on,
    especially when it has never and will never again be right in your own
    backyard?

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    and today is a big religious
    holiday in the Greek Orthodox church, both of which are helping contribute
    to keeping the Athenians away during the first few days.

    There's nothing in Greek Orthodoxy that discourages going to sporting events
    on a religious holiday.

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    They expect attendance to be better later.

    It's costing Greece $1000 *per citizen* to mount these games. They expect
    them to buy tickets too?

    My opinion: instead of glossing over and trying to put a happy face on this
    economic catastrophe, they ought to be talking about how the financing of
    the Games should be more equitably shared amongst all the participating
    countries.

    RichC

  6. "Rich Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My opinion: instead of glossing over and trying to put a happy face on


    this

    Quoted message said:

    economic catastrophe, they ought to be talking about how the financing of
    the Games should be more equitably shared amongst all the participating
    countries.

    RichC

    What country do you think sends the most money to the IOC?

    If a country wants to host a Games, it needs to figure out how to pay for
    it. The IOC made a huge error following Atlanta in stating that governments
    needed to be more responsible in paying for the Games. I guess they forgot
    the disaster of Montreal that almost ended the Games. The LA model saved
    them and showed a model that works. It is just that so many in the IOC are
    from socialistic countries that they think only government can do things.

  7. "Rich Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    My opinion: instead of glossing over and trying to put a happy face on


    this

    Quoted message said:

    economic catastrophe, they ought to be talking about how the financing of
    the Games should be more equitably shared amongst all the participating
    countries.

    Then you would have something along the lines of Master's Worlds: if you can
    pay enough, you can go. Hardly equitable for athletes.

    Don't forget, the Games are out for bid, not assigned. If a country can't
    put up the $$ regardless of the source, they shouldn't put in a bid.

  8. Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    The velodrome is sold out.

    Regards!
    Stephen

  9. Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    But Davey, 91% of tickets sold according to the main Web site.
    Up from 47% a week ago.

    *sound of hollow laughter heard offstage*

  10. Stewart Fleming said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    But Davey, 91% of tickets sold according to the main Web site.
    Up from 47% a week ago.

    *sound of hollow laughter heard offstage*

    Athens needed the Olympics in more ways than simply the immediate
    financial gain, the city when I visited a couple times back in the early
    90's was a cesspool. The park surrounding the Acropolis was piled with
    garbage. As one Aussie tourist put it, these aren't the same people who
    built these things, they'd have more pride if the were. Now that a
    bunch of junk has been condemned and removed, the city cleaned up and
    first rate sports venues exist, Greece will be able to host more events
    in the long term. I certainly hope they take care of what they have now.

  11. "Steve McGinty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    The velodrome is sold out.

    Regards!
    Stephen

    The velodrome has only 3000 odd seats, a lot less than Sydney

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    Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    I understand since Sunday was a holiday, that many of the seats were empty.
    Can you believe that?

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    Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    I understand since Sunday was a holiday, that many of the seats were


    empty.

    Quoted message said:

    Can you believe that?

    Here is a couple on that and security.

    http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/sportsstory.asp?story_id=95046

    http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/18731.htm

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    "Sierraman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Whatever happened to ticket sales?

    There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual Olympic
    Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    I understand since Sunday was a holiday, that many of the seats were


    empty.

    Quoted message said:

    Can you believe that?

    Here is a couple on that and security.

    http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/sportsstory.asp?story_id=95046

    http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/18731.htm

    Well Davey had noticed that spectators were pretty thin on the ground from the
    limited armchair spectating that he has done so far. And comparing the crowds
    with those of previous Olympic Road Shows, they seemed pretty sparse.

    Now it may very well be, although Davey believes this to be yet another Crock
    of Skatos, that Apokimisis tis Panagias (Assumption) in HomerHaven and the
    moribund Guy in the Funny Hat peddling Snake Oil in Lourdes had a negative
    effect on ticket sales and/or attendance.

    But Davey thinks rather that that this is just another Greek Comdey to rival
    the classic Lysistrata and that Aristophenes' modern day descendants are truly
    Up [censored] Creek Without a Paddle.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

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    Sierraman said:

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    > Whatever happened to ticket sales?
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    > There don't seem to be very many spectators apart from the usual


    Olympic

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    > Parasites, who don't pay for their tickets anyway.
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    > le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    > Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    I understand since Sunday was a holiday, that many of the seats were


    empty.

    Quoted message said:

    Can you believe that?

    Here is a couple on that and security.

    http://www.tsn.ca/ctvnews/sportsstory.asp?story_id=95046

    http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/18731.htm

    Well Davey had noticed that spectators were pretty thin on the ground from


    the

    Quoted message said:

    limited armchair spectating that he has done so far. And comparing the


    crowds

    Quoted message said:

    with those of previous Olympic Road Shows, they seemed pretty sparse.

    Now it may very well be, although Davey believes this to be yet another


    Crock

    Quoted message said:

    of Skatos, that Apokimisis tis Panagias (Assumption) in HomerHaven and the
    moribund Guy in the Funny Hat peddling Snake Oil in Lourdes had a negative
    effect on ticket sales and/or attendance.

    But Davey thinks rather that that this is just another Greek Comdey to


    rival

    Quoted message said:

    the classic Lysistrata and that Aristophenes' modern day descendants are


    truly

    Quoted message said:

    Up [censored] Creek Without a Paddle.

    --
    le Vent a Dos, Davey Crockett
    Six Day Site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

    I been watching many different events on dish network and noticed just how
    many seats were empty in premiere events. Embarrassing to say the least.
    Some events may be full but many like Gymnastics which are usually very
    popular, had many empty seats.

  16. Stewart Fleming said:

    But Davey, 91% of tickets sold according to the main Web site.
    Up from 47% a week ago.

    Perhaps someone is buying them out of charity and not showing up,
    because there are lots of empty seats.

    If that 91% figure was real, wouldn't there be people in the seats?

  17. Jack Hollis said:
    Stewart Fleming said:

    But Davey, 91% of tickets sold according to the main Web site.
    Up from 47% a week ago.

    Perhaps someone is buying them out of charity and not showing up,
    because there are lots of empty seats.

    If that 91% figure was real, wouldn't there be people in the seats?

    The 91% figure is not real, more simply.

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