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  1. Hi I know this sort of request comes up fairly regularly but
    I've searched google and don't see anything that quite
    answers my questions. Also, I guess this sort of thing
    changes fairly rapidly as new models come out etc.

    While I know something about touring bikes and tandems, I'm
    struggling when it comes to ATBs. I'm looking for my first
    bike now that I've moved somewhere a bit more rural. My
    requirements are:
    - a 'reasonable' bike that won't disintegrate in a year (I'm
    about 13st at the moment)
    - something that will cope with reasonably rough off-road
    tracks (but probably not jumps)
    - price around £500-700
    - hardtail (I'm assuming that rear suspension isn't worth it
    at that price).

    I've seen quite a few recommendations for Marin but I do
    wonder how much one is paying for the name. Would I be
    better getting something less well known?

    Also, how does ATB sizing work - is a 17" bike from Marin
    the same size as one from Trek? Is the recommendation just
    to go to the LBS and try it?

    Finally, any decent bike shops in the area between Bath and
    Salisbury?

    Thanks Mark

  2. Mark said:

    Hi I know this sort of request comes up fairly regularly
    but I've searched google and don't see anything that quite
    answers my questions. Also, I guess this sort of thing
    changes fairly rapidly as new models come out etc.

    While I know something about touring bikes and tandems,
    I'm struggling when it comes to ATBs. I'm looking for my
    first bike now that I've moved somewhere a bit more rural.
    My requirements are:
    - a 'reasonable' bike that won't disintegrate in a year
    (I'm about 13st at the moment)
    - something that will cope with reasonably rough off-road
    tracks (but probably not jumps)
    - price around £500-700
    - hardtail (I'm assuming that rear suspension isn't worth
    it at that price).

    I've seen quite a few recommendations for Marin but I do
    wonder how much one is paying for the name. Would I be
    better getting something less well known?

    Also, how does ATB sizing work - is a 17" bike from Marin
    the same size as one from Trek? Is the recommendation just
    to go to the LBS and try it?

    Finally, any decent bike shops in the area between Bath
    and Salisbury?

    Thanks Mark


    Hi Mark, your price range should allow you to buy a very
    reasonable bike. Apart from Marin I would have a look at
    Trek, Specialized, Cannondale & Kona.

    Kona used to have a frame designer called Joe Murray

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    He then worked with Voodoo cycles. I have a Voodoo
    Hoodoo which I find to be a superb singletrack and
    downhilling machine.

    IMO I would suggest; definately an aluminum frame, Marzocchi
    forks and Avid brakes.

    As I undrstand it, frame sizes relate to a hypothetical
    traditional frame with a horizontal top tube. It gives
    a point of reference between different frames of
    different designs.

    Always ride the bike before you buy it.

    Bike shops between Bath & Salisbury covers a large area.
    Which one are you closer to? Try Johns Bikes or Ultimate
    Sport in Bath.

    Hope that helps.

    Rob Horton.

  3. Mark said:

    Hi I know this sort of request comes up fairly regularly
    but I've searched google and don't see anything that quite
    answers my questions. Also, I guess this sort of thing
    changes fairly rapidly as new models come out etc.

    While I know something about touring bikes and tandems,
    I'm struggling when it comes to ATBs. I'm looking for my
    first bike now that I've moved somewhere a bit more rural.
    My requirements are:
    - a 'reasonable' bike that won't disintegrate in a year
    (I'm about 13st at the moment)
    - something that will cope with reasonably rough off-road
    tracks (but probably not jumps)
    - price around £500-700
    - hardtail (I'm assuming that rear suspension isn't worth
    it at that price).

    I've seen quite a few recommendations for Marin but I do
    wonder how much one is paying for the name. Would I be
    better getting something less well known?

    They are all much of a muchness, I bought a steel Rockhopper
    a couple of years ago at that price because I didn't want
    aluminium but other than that the components were the same
    brand to brand. The manufacturers are spending a lot to
    differentiate between rival brands but ultimately it is a
    diamond framed safety bike and if you could conduct a double
    blind test you wouldnt be able to tell IMO.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, how does ATB sizing work - is a 17" bike from Marin
    the same size as one from Trek? Is the recommendation just
    to go to the LBS and try it?

    Thats about the size of it. 🙂 The only way is to sit on it
    and ride it, at least thats what I told my GF, about getting
    a bike, of course.

  4. Mark' of said:

    Also, how does ATB sizing work - is a 17" bike from Marin
    the same size as one from Trek? Is the recommendation just
    to go to the LBS and try it?


    Definitely not, and yes. I'm a short person with short legs.
    Looking at 14" frames Specialized were a good fit, some Kona
    models fit some were a bit tight, and a Marin was so big I
    couldn't ride it. The variation might not be as great on a
    frame that isn't at the extreme end of the range, but the
    only sensible advice is try before you buy.
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    Bike shops between Bath & Salisbury covers a large area.
    Which one are you closer to? Try Johns Bikes or Ultimate
    Sport in Bath.

    Thanks for the advice. I'm actually in Frome - about 15miles
    south of Bath but I'm often over in Salisbury.

    Mark

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    in message <[email hidden]>, Mark ('fearonm@remove-this-

    bit.hotmail.com') said:

    Also, how does ATB sizing work - is a 17" bike from
    Marin the same size as one from Trek?

    No!

    Quoted message said:

    Is the recommendation just to go to the LBS and try it?

    Definitely.

    Oh - the other thing - there are definite bargains to be
    had second hand, people who go out and buy expensive
    bikes, ride them round the block a couple of times, and
    decide they don't like them. Try eBay.

    Thanks for the response.

    Unfortunately, without knowing what size to get, eBay is a
    bit of a lottery. I guess I could try one in an LBS then buy
    from eBay but it just doesn't seem quite right to me.

    Mark

  7. Mark said:


    "Rob Horton" <yahoo.com@mr_horton> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Bike shops between Bath & Salisbury covers a large area.
    Which one are you closer to? Try Johns Bikes or Ultimate
    Sport in Bath.

    Thanks for the advice. I'm actually in Frome - about
    15miles south of Bath but I'm often over in Salisbury.

    If you are often in Salisbury you should visit Stonehenge
    Cycles in Fisherton Street. IMO its one of the most
    friendly and helpful bike shops in the area. They stock a
    wide range of bikes and are very knowledgeable. you won't
    be sold anything that is at all unsuitable. We bought a
    Marin from them a few years ago for one of my daughters and
    its still going strong. It was roadified to cater for our
    specific needs, something that Pip Brown and crowd don't
    seem to mind doing.

    Also in Salisbury is Hayballs, which are more at the utility
    end of the market - I bought a Sam Brown belt from them
    yesterday.

    John B

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    Quoted message said:
    Mark said:


    "Rob Horton" <yahoo.com@mr_horton> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Bike shops between Bath & Salisbury covers a large
    area. Which one


    are

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    you closer to? Try Johns Bikes or Ultimate Sport in
    Bath.

    Thanks for the advice. I'm actually in Frome - about
    15miles south of


    Bath

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but I'm often over in Salisbury.

    If you are often in Salisbury you should visit Stonehenge
    Cycles in Fisherton Street. IMO its one of the most
    friendly and helpful bike shops in the area. They stock a
    wide range of bikes and are very knowledgeable. you won't
    be sold anything that is at all unsuitable. We bought a
    Marin from them a few years ago for one of my daughters
    and its still going strong. It was roadified to cater for
    our specific needs, something that Pip Brown and crowd
    don't seem to mind doing.

    Also in Salisbury is Hayballs, which are more at the
    utility end of the market - I bought a Sam Brown belt from
    them yesterday.

    John B

    Seconded. I have used Stonehenge Cycles for years - Rod
    builds excellent wheels and their idea of customer service
    is the same if you want some shiny bits or a new wicker
    basket. Hayballs are a bit more towards the budget end of
    things but very helpful and do some really good value stuff
    from Falcon etc.

    HTH Julia

    Julia

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