At what temperature do you...?

Bib shorts that cover the knee but stop short of the calf. See link (watch for line wrap)

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knickers?

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At what temperature to you...

put on arm/leg warmers? long sleeved jersey? knickers? base layer? heavy jacket? stay inside
regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

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-> put on arm/leg warmers? wazzat?

-> long sleeved jersey? jersey?

-> knickers? most times I have to get dressed

-> base layer?

start layering at -15 to -20 C depending on the plan for the ride

-> heavy jacket?

hrmm below -20 C

-> stay inside regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

have ridden down to -38 but in the cold its more the depth of the snow and the wind speed rather
than the ambiant temp that impacts my choice to ride or not. on the other end of the scale 38 C was
too warm for me though I did make 20 k of river trails and road mix I would rather have puked than
ride the last 5 k with nothing but hot water to drink.

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At what temperature to you...

put on arm/leg warmers? long sleeved jersey? knickers? base layer? heavy jacket? stay inside
regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

I ride all winter (Boston) regardless of temperature, biking's no different than skiing.

As for clothing, that's a personal thing. Each season I have to remember my clothing choices for
different temperatures. Since it's still summer, I haven't done that yet, ask me again in December.
One thing I do remember, cold & wet requires a lot more stuff than cold and dry.

Doug Cook said:

At what temperature to you... put on arm/leg warmers?

Below 60F.

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long sleeved jersey?

50-60F if it's not expected to warm much above 60F.

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knickers?

Knickers? Don't own any.

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base layer? heavy jacket? stay inside regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

You left out light wind shell and/or vest, two of the most handy items for cool weather riding. With
a long sleeve jersey, polypro undershirt, and a light shell, you can ride comfortably down to at
least 30F.

Art Harris

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At what temperature to you...

put on arm/leg warmers? long sleeved jersey? knickers? base layer? heavy jacket? stay inside
regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

Depends on the weather conditions. In the early afternoon of a sunny day, the temperature can feel
15F warmer than the thermometer says. On the other hand, on a wet or windy or cloudy or dark day,
you feel colder (sometimes much colder) than the thermometer says.

In general, I start thinking about long sleeves if the temperature is going to be below 60 to 65F
for my entire ride. If the morning is cold, but the afternoon is supposed to warm up, then I'll
bring warmers that I can take off. In the 50s or so (depending on wind), I'll start thinking about
wind protection. A midweight jersey and wind shell can keep you pretty comfy down to the 40s. Below
that, I start thinking about the thermals. I don't stop riding unless the ground is icy.

Above 80 F / 27 C -- Loosen tie

Above 50 F / 10 C -- Ride in shirtsleeves, carry suit jacket or sport jacket on rack or
leave at office

Below 50 F / 10 C -- Suit or sportjacket/slacks. Outer clothing not required

Below 40 F / 4 C -- Add Gortex overcoat unless wearing three piece suit. Ski gloves, no liners.

Below 32 F / 0 C -- Add ski glove liners. Overcoat even with three piece suit. Use overcoat hood
under helmet.

Below 20 F / 0 C -- Add Gor-tex overpants, even if no snow around

Below -20 F / -30 C -- Wear ski pants and parka. Goggles helpful. (we got these temperatures in New
Englqnd, where I grew up, but not here) Still, I have skiied in -30 F / -34 C with this stuff, and
it has been great.

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Okay, no, don't have any, and haven't seen them in any local store (this may only reflect the fact
that I haven't looked for them), although there was a Russian rider wearing a pair of them at my
Friday night hangout recently.

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Isn't anyone else bothered by one particular factor of Winter riding, namely that car drivers are
not used to seeing and avoiding cyclists since there are far fewer cyclists on the roads? This is a
primary reason/excuse I use for not riding in Winter, even on pleasant days.

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Isn't anyone else bothered by one particular factor of Winter riding, namely that car drivers are
not used to seeing and avoiding cyclists since there are far fewer cyclists on the roads? This is a
primary reason/excuse I use for not riding in Winter, even on pleasant days.

You're just too far north, that's all. Down here, the number of riders goes *up* in the winter.

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-> Isn't anyone else bothered by one particular factor of Winter riding, -> namely that car drivers
are not used to seeing and avoiding cyclists -> since there are far fewer cyclists on the roads?
This is a primary -> reason/excuse I use for not riding in Winter, even on pleasant days.

Seems my city has the highest per capita winter ridership in canada excepting the land of liquid
sunshine. I always see at least a dozen others of the insane club every ride in the winter. the
cagers are the same winter and summer.

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39 degrees F. and below. I can ride, but have coughing fits all nite...
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At the beginning of the ride? Or after I warm up?

I've ridden in 50=BA weather wearind little more that basic gear.

May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear for the hills! Chris

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39 degrees F. and below. I can ride, but have coughing fits all nite...

EEeeeuuwwwww.

I ride down to about 40-45 in "normal" cycling gear.

30-40 I go with arm warmers or a wind vest.

Below that, I forget... it never GETS that cold here. ;-)

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stay inside regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

39 degrees F. and below. I can ride, but have coughing fits all nite...

EEeeeuuwwwww.

I ride down to about 40-45 in "normal" cycling gear.

30-40 I go with arm warmers or a wind vest.

Below that, I forget... it never GETS that cold here. ;-)

I've heard a rule of thumb that you should cover your knees once it gets below 20C. That's rather
conservative, but not a bad idea. I find the knees and arms are where I really feel it when it
gets cool.

Adding simple technical fabric (you know, uppity polyester) arm warmers to my outfit makes a
surprising difference. Paired with a short-sleeve jersey, I'd happily ride in 10C weather with
nothing else on. They even serve well in light rain.

I really like wicking jerseys,

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Ryan Cousineau said:

I've heard a rule of thumb that you should cover your knees once it gets below 20C. That's rather
conservative, but not a bad idea. I find the knees and arms are where I really feel it when it
gets cool.

20c??? That's 68 degrees F. Even in Arizona that would mean wearing tights, leg warmers or body
armor most of the year.

Maybe 20 degrees F (-7c)?

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Ryan Cousineau said:

I've heard a rule of thumb that you should cover your knees once it gets below 20C. That's rather
conservative, but not a bad idea. I find the knees and arms are where I really feel it when it
gets cool.

20c??? That's 68 degrees F. Even in Arizona that would mean wearing tights, leg warmers or body
armor most of the year.

Maybe 20 degrees F (-7c)?

No, 20 Celsius. It's a conservative rule of thumb, as I said, and since my current choices are
shorts or fleece-under-nylon all-weather pants, I don't change until it's somewhere below 10C.

But I put on arm warmers about 15C, and would do light leg warmers for my current morning rides if I
owned a pair.

Generally cold-blooded, except my knees,
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"Doug Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

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At what temperature to you...

put on arm/leg warmers? long sleeved jersey? knickers? base layer? heavy jacket? stay inside
regardless of how many clothes/layers you put on?

I've compiled a chart that shows what clothes I'm comfortable in at various temps. It's for my
commutes to work, so it doesn't exactly apply to any old afternoon-type ride (the particular clothes
are dependant on the temp at the time I leave my house and the expected high for the day, since the
temp changes so much in the morning). I've been (obsessively) adding to it for 6 or 7 years - it
spans temps from 15 degrees to 100 degrees.

In answer to your last question, there has yet to be a temp that made me stay inside, partly because
each new coldest temp is another column I can put in my chart.

The chart is in Excel XP. Email me if you're interested.

Michael

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I've compiled a chart that shows what clothes I'm comfortable in at various temps. It's for my
commutes to work, so it doesn't exactly apply to any old afternoon-type ride (the particular
clothes are dependant on the temp at the time I leave my house and the expected high for the day,
since the temp changes so much in the morning). I've been (obsessively) adding to it for 6 or 7
years - it spans temps from 15 degrees to 100 degrees.

In answer to your last question, there has yet to be a temp that made me stay inside, partly
because each new coldest temp is another column I can put in my chart.

The chart is in Excel XP. Email me if you're interested.

That's beautiful, man! I have to tell my father about this one, as it will give him a whole new
thing to graph for his commutes.

So, is the chart pretty similar for every temperature from 65 degrees up?

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