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  1. At last! Asparagus!

    Albert Sonnenfeld -- International Herald Tribune

    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor shadow
    of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love you green,"
    Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus, the ultimate in
    seasonal produce most celebratory of a continental spring, depends for
    its characteristic whiteness on being reburied to be carefully sheltered
    from the sun's pernicious rays (and the resulting attendant production
    of chlorophyll).

    That makes for a labor-intensive (hence pricey) addition to the farmer's
    market basket.

    We in California are blessed with what I call extended seasonality, even
    if the mutations (to ensure longer shelf life and visual enhancement) of
    strawberries and tomatoes I find in the Santa Monica market these days
    are beginning to erode my faith.

    So far the wonderful fresh white asparagus offerings of our farmers'
    markets have restored my wavering credo! However, many of the best chefs
    rely on imports from Holland in order to be the first on their block to
    offer the thick white beauties; it's a bit like the Beaujolais nouveau
    race in November.

    My secret, as an inveterate asparagomaniac and a charter Slow Foodie, is
    to check out chefs with Germanic surnames (rare in L.A.) for good (even
    if imported) asparagus.

    Better yet, make a "Spargel Pilgerfahrt," a pilgrim's quest for perfect
    white asparagus, to Alsace or to Germany in season (May through June).

    To be sure, the EU has created a flavorless downmarket Euroworld, a vast
    supermarket of formerly complex edibles standardized under the vigilant
    eye of agrobureaucrats.

    Even in Euroworld the aristocratic white asparagus of Central Europe
    holds up the banner of seasonality.

    Like the fragile translucent skin of a Habsburg princess, the sheltered
    asparagus retains its pearly whiteness. Legend has it that harvesting is
    best done in the moonlight!

    Germans have a saying, "Spargelweiss und Erdbeerrot" (asparagus white
    and strawberry red). Well, the strawberries may still look red, but too
    often their flavor has gone with the (year-round) wind.

    The asparagus of legend is always white, never green, and its season is
    scarily finite.

    In antiquity the bride was garlanded with asparagus and the Egyptians
    placed it as a viaticum in the Pharaoh's tomb. Plato praised its
    essential flavor; Emperor Augustus sweetened it with honey; Arabian
    women prayerfully fed it to their men as an aphrodisiac.

    As I grow older, I think enviously of the French philosopher, Fontenelle
    (1657-1757), who attributed his centenary longevity to the
    "blood-purification of his annual asparagus cure!"

    So this spring I shall make my annual pilgrimage to this tasty source of
    eternal youth moving from Dresden in the East to Bad Godesberg in the
    West and ending in the lovely Black Forest town of Freiburg.

    There the 15th annual "Spargelfest" is in full swing in the suburb of
    Opingen: 3.5 tons per day peeled, cooked and eaten.

    On a recent spring trip I had asparagus twice daily for a fortnight. I
    had it with melted butter, with Hollandaise, with Westphalian ham, with
    smoked salmon, and best of all dipped in extra-virgin olive oil from
    Lucca.

    I learned from the "Spargelmeister" that to use utensils was oh so
    petit-bourgeois. Asparagus etiquette dictates holding each stalk 'twixt
    thumb and index finger, dipping in oil and ingesting slowly bite by
    delicate bite.

    (Albert Sonnenfeld directs the series "Arts of the Table: Studies in
    Culinary History" for Columbia University Press.)


  2. Quoted message said:

    At last! Asparagus!

    Albert Sonnenfeld -- International Herald Tribune

    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor
    shadow of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love
    you green," Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus, the ultimate in
    seasonal produce most celebratory of a continental spring, depends
    for its characteristic whiteness on being reburied to be carefully
    sheltered from the sun's pernicious rays (and the resulting
    attendant production of chlorophyll).

    <Article snipped>

    Quoted message said:

    I learned from the "Spargelmeister" that to use utensils was oh so
    petit-bourgeois. Asparagus etiquette dictates holding each stalk
    'twixt thumb and index finger, dipping in oil and ingesting slowly
    bite by delicate bite.

    (Albert Sonnenfeld directs the series "Arts of the Table: Studies
    in Culinary History" for Columbia University Press.)

    Bubba, you will be in your glory, once the season starts in and around
    Duesseldorf. Yes, we grew up thinking of asparagus as finger food,
    just as we did of French Fries, but instead of oil, our asparagus were
    enjoyed dipped into or sprinkled with breadcrumbs sautéed in butter.
    I have to admit, that I cannot recall the taste of white asparagus,
    but I still love the green ones, served that way. For some reason,
    oil was never used in our home. Except for oil lamps. :o)

    Enjoy that rare, seasonal treat and make the most of having it so
    readily available, even if it is only for a short time. M

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Victor Sack) said:


    (snippage throughout)
    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor shadow
    of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love you green,"
    Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus,
    The asparagus of legend is always white, never green, and its season is
    scarily finite.

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually bought some
    (from California, I think) maybe a month ago. Sorry, dollink, I fail to
    see what the shouting is about. I still prefer the green stuff. But I
    did try it-- just so I could tell you I did.
    -Queenie
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Cam Ranh Bay food added 4-8-05.
    Sam I Am! updated 4-9-05.
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Victor Sack) said:

    At last! Asparagus!

    Albert Sonnenfeld -- International Herald Tribune

    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor shadow
    of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love you green,"
    Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus, the ultimate in
    seasonal produce most celebratory of a continental spring, depends for
    its characteristic whiteness on being reburied to be carefully sheltered
    from the sun's pernicious rays (and the resulting attendant production
    of chlorophyll).

    That makes for a labor-intensive (hence pricey) addition to the farmer's
    market basket.


    <snipped>

    I've heard from other list members that the flavor of white Asparagus is
    mediocre at best. Regular, normal green has a better flavor so all of
    their labor (and the increased price) is not worth all the effort...

    so why are they bothering?

    --
    K.

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  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Victor Sack) said:


    (snippage throughout)
    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor shadow
    of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love you green,"
    Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus,
    The asparagus of legend is always white, never green, and its season is
    scarily finite.

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually bought some
    (from California, I think) maybe a month ago. Sorry, dollink, I fail to
    see what the shouting is about. I still prefer the green stuff. But I
    did try it-- just so I could tell you I did.
    -Queenie
    --
    -Barb

    See what I mean? ;-)
    I've not tried it, never wanted to shell out the $$$ for white asparagus
    after I've read so many negative comments about it.

    Maybe someone should inform the farmers???
    --
    K.

  6. Eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin', we're gonna do what they say
    can't be done. We got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
    I'm eastbound, just watch ol' "Victor Sack" run.

    Quoted message said:

    At last! Asparagus!

    Albert Sonnenfeld -- International Herald Tribune

    BRENTWOOD, California Spring comes late to much of Europe. The
    continental cloud cover begins to break up, and a timid sun, poor shadow
    of itself, makes its apparition at last. "Green, how I love you green,"
    Garcia Lorca wrote.

    How ironic therefore that thick white asparagus, the ultimate in
    seasonal produce most celebratory of a continental spring, depends for
    its characteristic whiteness on being reburied to be carefully sheltered
    from the sun's pernicious rays (and the resulting attendant production
    of chlorophyll).

    That makes for a labor-intensive (hence pricey) addition to the farmer's
    market basket.

    We in California are blessed with what I call extended seasonality, even
    if the mutations (to ensure longer shelf life and visual enhancement) of
    strawberries and tomatoes I find in the Santa Monica market these days
    are beginning to erode my faith.

    So far the wonderful fresh white asparagus offerings of our farmers'
    markets have restored my wavering credo! However, many of the best chefs
    rely on imports from Holland in order to be the first on their block to
    offer the thick white beauties; it's a bit like the Beaujolais nouveau
    race in November.

    My secret, as an inveterate asparagomaniac and a charter Slow Foodie, is
    to check out chefs with Germanic surnames (rare in L.A.) for good (even
    if imported) asparagus.

    Better yet, make a "Spargel Pilgerfahrt," a pilgrim's quest for perfect
    white asparagus, to Alsace or to Germany in season (May through June).

    To be sure, the EU has created a flavorless downmarket Euroworld, a vast
    supermarket of formerly complex edibles standardized under the vigilant
    eye of agrobureaucrats.

    Even in Euroworld the aristocratic white asparagus of Central Europe
    holds up the banner of seasonality.

    Like the fragile translucent skin of a Habsburg princess, the sheltered
    asparagus retains its pearly whiteness. Legend has it that harvesting is
    best done in the moonlight!

    Germans have a saying, "Spargelweiss und Erdbeerrot" (asparagus white
    and strawberry red). Well, the strawberries may still look red, but too
    often their flavor has gone with the (year-round) wind.

    The asparagus of legend is always white, never green, and its season is
    scarily finite.

    In antiquity the bride was garlanded with asparagus and the Egyptians
    placed it as a viaticum in the Pharaoh's tomb. Plato praised its
    essential flavor; Emperor Augustus sweetened it with honey; Arabian
    women prayerfully fed it to their men as an aphrodisiac.

    As I grow older, I think enviously of the French philosopher, Fontenelle
    (1657-1757), who attributed his centenary longevity to the
    "blood-purification of his annual asparagus cure!"

    So this spring I shall make my annual pilgrimage to this tasty source of
    eternal youth moving from Dresden in the East to Bad Godesberg in the
    West and ending in the lovely Black Forest town of Freiburg.

    There the 15th annual "Spargelfest" is in full swing in the suburb of
    Opingen: 3.5 tons per day peeled, cooked and eaten.

    On a recent spring trip I had asparagus twice daily for a fortnight. I
    had it with melted butter, with Hollandaise, with Westphalian ham, with
    smoked salmon, and best of all dipped in extra-virgin olive oil from
    Lucca.

    I learned from the "Spargelmeister" that to use utensils was oh so
    petit-bourgeois. Asparagus etiquette dictates holding each stalk 'twixt
    thumb and index finger, dipping in oil and ingesting slowly bite by
    delicate bite.

    (Albert Sonnenfeld directs the series "Arts of the Table: Studies in
    Culinary History" for Columbia University Press.)

    Now if only they could do something about the pee smell...

  7. Melba's Jammin said:
    Quoted message said:

    The asparagus of legend is always white, never green, and its season is
    scarily finite.

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually bought some
    (from California, I think) maybe a month ago. Sorry, dollink, I fail to
    see what the shouting is about. I still prefer the green stuff. But I
    did try it-- just so I could tell you I did.

    I tried a few years ago while on vacation in Germany. All the restaurants were
    flogging it with their special Spargle menu. I was not particularly impressed
    with the white stuff.

  8. Margaret Suran said:

    Bubba, you will be in your glory, once the season starts in and around
    Duesseldorf. Yes, we grew up thinking of asparagus as finger food,
    just as we did of French Fries, but instead of oil, our asparagus were
    enjoyed dipped into or sprinkled with breadcrumbs sautéed in butter.

    Oil for dipping asparagus is not at all traditional in Germany, either.
    For otherwise unadorned asparagus, melted butter or sauce hollandaise
    are much more popular by far. As to eating it with fingers, this is
    still de rigueur, but the rule was made in the times of carbon steel
    silverware (carbon steel makes asparagus taste nasty). Myself, I prefer
    (stainless steel) knife and fork. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    I have to admit, that I cannot recall the taste of white asparagus,
    but I still love the green ones, served that way.

    Maybe you can find some white asparagus, served traditionally, in one of
    the few remaining Austrian and German restaurants in NYC, starting May.
    Just call ahead and ask if they are serving it. Wallsé? Cafe Sabarsky?
    Heidelberg?

    Quoted message said:

    Enjoy that rare, seasonal treat and make the most of having it so
    readily available, even if it is only for a short time. M

    I do tend to eat asparagus in season only, but it is actually available
    year round, both the white and the green kind. Imported from the
    southern hemisphere probably. Locally grown asparagus can be easily
    found now, but it is not the official season yet.... :-)

    Bubba

  9. Melba's Jammin said:

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually bought some
    (from California, I think) maybe a month ago.

    I'm not sure it was the right season for asparagus, not even in
    California.

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry, dollink, I fail to
    see what the shouting is about.

    It's okay, a lot of people don't like asparagus. I like it, but I'm not
    crazy about it. The kind I like most of all is purple asparagus - it
    has almost exactly the same, but more intensive taste as the white kind.
    It is not all that popular in Germany and not always easy to find. In
    France, I'd have more chances.

    BTW, asparagus, particularly the white kind, is very variable in
    quality, much depending on the kind (which hybrid?), the provenance, the
    season and, last but not least, the time from harvesting to the table,
    which should ideally not exceed one day. Some people maintain that the
    hybrids often used in California to withstand the high temperatures are
    inferior. I've never tasted those hybrids, so wouldn't know. Even in
    Germany, even in season, a lot of asparagus in a lot of places leaves a
    lot to be desired.

    Also, white asparagus is very delicate, in spite of its comparative
    heft, and requires careful handling and cooking. It should always be
    peeled and that has to be done very carefully, so that all the woody and
    stringy parts are removed. (Those parts can be used in water to boil
    asparagus, but they are not served; or else they can be used to prepare
    the liquid for the asparagus soup.) Then, the asparagus spears should
    be cooked in an upright position (them, not necessarily you), so that
    the thinner and more delicate tops are just steamed, for 15-20 minutes,
    depending on their thickness, in simmering salted water with a bit of
    butter and a pinch of sugar (and perhaps those stringy, woody parts and
    peels, to provide some additional flavour). They should never be
    undercooked, nor, God forbid, overcooked. Serve with freshly made sauce
    hollandaise, or, at the very least, with melted butter.

    Quoted message said:

    I still prefer the green stuff.

    That, on the other hand, doesn't make much sense. Green and white
    asparagus have nothing to do with each other, taste-wise, as far as I am
    concerned. They could as well be two unrelated vegetables and comparing
    them would be akin to comparing apples and oranges. Still, if you
    insist, I'd say that the green kind is, in spite of its bright colour,
    beyond the pale.

    Quoted message said:

    But I
    did try it-- just so I could tell you I did.

    And you did! Come to Germany, preferably in season, and taste the real
    thing instead. Maybe we could go to Wallbeck, the most famous
    asparagus-growing place of them all.

    Bubba


  10. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bubba, you will be in your glory, once the season starts in and
    around Duesseldorf. Yes, we grew up thinking of asparagus as
    finger food, just as we did of French Fries, but instead of oil,
    our asparagus were enjoyed dipped into or sprinkled with
    breadcrumbs sautéed in butter.

    Oil for dipping asparagus is not at all traditional in Germany,
    either. For otherwise unadorned asparagus, melted butter or sauce
    hollandaise are much more popular by far.

    I don't remember oil being used at all for cooking, or any shortening
    such as Crisco. I only remember butter, in rare cases Margarine which
    was not at all popular and mostly fat derived from poultry, Schmalz
    from chickens, ducks and Geese, Goose fat being by far the most popular.

    Quoted message said:

    As to eating it with
    fingers, this is still de rigueur, but the rule was made in the
    times of carbon steel silverware (carbon steel makes asparagus
    taste nasty). Myself, I prefer (stainless steel) knife and fork.

    Everybody, as far as I knew, used Sterling Silver flatware, but such
    foods as asparagus and French Fries were eaten with your fingers, even
    in nice restaurants or when you were invited for dinner. It is
    strange, since everybody was so very "correct" when it came to eating.
    I wonder what kind of flatware was used in restaurants or hotel
    dining rooms, most certainly not Sterling Silver.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you can find some white asparagus, served traditionally, in
    one of the few remaining Austrian and German restaurants in NYC,
    starting May. Just call ahead and ask if they are serving it.
    Wallsé? Cafe Sabarsky? Heidelberg?

    Neither The Heidelberg nor Sabarsky would serve them and The Wallse is
    much too far from where I live and I doubt that they would put white
    asparagus on the menu. The Danube would and if I ever win the
    lottery, very unlikely as I never buy a ticket, I will certainly go
    and eat there. :o)

    However, the gourmet markets always carry white asparagus during the
    season, I just do not know what season it is, the one in Europe from
    where they import them or the one in California or even New York
    State. I used to buy them once in a while, but I was always
    disappointed. They are terribly stringy and only a couple of inches
    near the upper end are edible and not very tasty. I tried to serve
    them to company, but nobody liked them. But, as you say, they do not
    taste very much like green asparagus and I wish I could remember how
    the ones of my childhood tasted, because I do not know whether or not
    they tasted the same way. I have eaten the purple ones several times.
    They taste like the green ones, only more so. I like them, but they
    are not often available here.

    Quoted message said:


    I do tend to eat asparagus in season only, but it is actually
    available year round, both the white and the green kind. Imported
    from the southern hemisphere probably. Locally grown asparagus can
    be easily found now, but it is not the official season yet.... :-)

    The trouble with fruits and vegetables here is, that they are now
    available most of the time from all over the world, but because it
    takes some time to ship them here, they are picked before they are
    ripe and are ripened chemically or something like it. They are also
    waxed and oiled, cucumbers, for example and the texture and taste are
    not as they should be.

    Do you like artichokes? I still remember the first one I ever ate and
    how much I enjoyed it. It was simply steamed, cooled and served with
    vinaigrette. I liked it so much, I tried to get every little bit of
    the delicious flesh from each leaf. I loved them hot, cold, plain or
    stuffed. I have not eaten one in many years, I haven't even thought
    of having one until just now.

    M

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Victor Sack) said:

    Melba's Jammin' <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    It's okay, a lot of people don't like asparagus. I like it, but I'm not
    crazy about it.

    I love it! Twice in the last two weeks or so I've bought 2-1/2-pound
    bunches at Sam's Club for a reasonable price -- and have eaten it all
    myself. I do the spears in a shallow skillet with not too much water.
    High heat for not very long, though I did overcook one batch. I don't
    mind. I like it cold, too. Plain. I don't gild a lily.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, white asparagus is very delicate, in spite of its comparative
    heft, and requires careful handling and cooking. It should always be
    peeled and that has to be done very carefully, so that all the woody and
    stringy parts are removed.

    My recollection is that it was rather tough -- I did not peel it; that
    probably would have made a difference as far as toothsome went.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I still prefer the green stuff.

    That, on the other hand, doesn't make much sense. Green and white
    asparagus have nothing to do with each other, taste-wise, as far as I am
    concerned.

    As far as I am concerned, they do.

    Quoted message said:

    And you did! Come to Germany, preferably in season, and taste the real
    thing instead. Maybe we could go to Wallbeck, the most famous
    asparagus-growing place of them all.

    I can't get Rob enthused about traveling to Europe. :-0(
    --
    -Barb, <http://www.jamlady.eboard.com> Cam Ranh Bay food added 4-8-05.
    Sam I Am! updated 4-9-05.
    "I read recipes the way I read science fiction: I get to the end and
    say,'Well, that's not going to happen.'" - Comedian Rita Rudner,
    performance at New York, New York, January 10, 2005.

  12. Margaret Suran said:

    I don't remember oil being used at all for cooking, or any shortening
    such as Crisco. I only remember butter, in rare cases Margarine which
    was not at all popular and mostly fat derived from poultry, Schmalz
    from chickens, ducks and Geese, Goose fat being by far the most popular.

    Pork and goose Schmalz are still very popular and readily available
    everywhere.

    Quoted message said:

    Everybody, as far as I knew, used Sterling Silver flatware,

    Surely knife blades had sterling silver handles but steel blades?
    Sterling silver blades wouldn't cut very well at all. Some old sterling
    silver knives we have here have carbon steel blades. Most modern
    sterling siver knives have stainless steel blades, I believe.

    Quoted message said:

    Neither The Heidelberg nor Sabarsky would serve them and The Wallse is
    much too far from where I live and I doubt that they would put white
    asparagus on the menu.

    I've looked Wallsé up; in season, they have been reported to serve white
    asparagus.

    Quoted message said:

    The Danube would and if I ever win the
    lottery, very unlikely as I never buy a ticket, I will certainly go
    and eat there. :o)

    Ah, but The Danube, good as it is, is a fake, run by a Frenchman. :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Do you like artichokes?

    Not particularly.

    Bubba

  13. "Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    <big snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Do you like artichokes? I still remember the first one I ever ate and
    how much I enjoyed it. It was simply steamed, cooled and served with
    vinaigrette. I liked it so much, I tried to get every little bit of
    the delicious flesh from each leaf. I loved them hot, cold, plain or
    stuffed. I have not eaten one in many years, I haven't even thought
    of having one until just now.

    M

    Ah.....asparagus and artichokes. I used to grow both in my garden. They
    weren't much work to grow, but they both took a lot of room! Especially the
    asparagus as it grows and grows and grows out and beyond its first area. It
    wasn't until the third year that I got a crop from the asparagus.....you
    can't be in a hurry for it. Both had a marvelous flavor cooked directly from
    the garden. Sadly I don't have room for a vegetable garden
    anymore....especially for ones that take so much room. Now it has to be some
    things in pots.

    Charliam

  14. "Victor Sack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Margaret Suran said:

    Do you like artichokes?

    Not particularly.

    Bubba

    Un sauvage!

    Charliam

  15. "Victor Sack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually bought some
    (from California, I think) maybe a month ago.

    I'm not sure it was the right season for asparagus, not even in
    California.

    Bubba, I just purchased some California asparagus this morning and I am
    looking forward to having about half of it for supper. The rest I will have
    tomorrow on pasta in some manner not yet decided. The earliest asparagus
    was, I think, from Mexico. I don't recall seeing white asparagus grown in
    California in my grocery store. I have seen the white grown in Washington
    state though.

    Charliam

  16. Charles Gifford said:


    Ah.....asparagus and artichokes. I used to grow both in my garden.
    They weren't much work to grow, but they both took a lot of room!
    Especially the asparagus as it grows and grows and grows out and
    beyond its first area. It wasn't until the third year that I got a
    crop from the asparagus.....you can't be in a hurry for it. Both
    had a marvelous flavor cooked directly from the garden. Sadly I
    don't have room for a vegetable garden anymore....especially for
    ones that take so much room. Now it has to be some things in pots.

    Charliam

    Dear Charlie, This is so sad. I wish you still had your larger garden.

    I still miss my little vegetable plot that I had when I was a small
    girl. A tiny two by two feet paradise that was all mine each summer,
    in the garden of our summer house.

    Sure, growing things in pots is nice, too, but I do not think that
    asparagus and artichokes will do good in such a small home. :o(

    Perhaps some day you will have a larger space for growing all your
    favorites. Of course, by then you might not want to do it any more.

    M

  17. Melba's Jammin said:

    I love it! Twice in the last two weeks or so I've bought 2-1/2-pound
    bunches at Sam's Club for a reasonable price -- and have eaten it all
    myself. I do the spears in a shallow skillet with not too much water.
    High heat for not very long, though I did overcook one batch. I don't
    mind. I like it cold, too. Plain. I don't gild a lily.

    We often slice up the spears on the diagonal (about 3/4 inch long) and
    saute in olive oil with a good bit of salt and pepper. Great stuff just
    like that.
    Toss some eggs into the pan and you have the makings of a great fritata.
    Goomba

  18. Margaret Suran <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Charles Gifford said:


    Ah.....asparagus and artichokes. I used to grow both in my garden.
    They weren't much work to grow, but they both took a lot of room!
    Especially the asparagus as it grows and grows and grows out and
    beyond its first area. It wasn't until the third year that I got a
    crop from the asparagus.....you can't be in a hurry for it. Both
    had a marvelous flavor cooked directly from the garden. Sadly I
    don't have room for a vegetable garden anymore....especially for
    ones that take so much room. Now it has to be some things in pots.

    Charliam

    Dear Charlie, This is so sad. I wish you still had your larger


    garden.

    Quoted message said:


    I still miss my little vegetable plot that I had when I was a small
    girl. A tiny two by two feet paradise that was all mine each summer,
    in the garden of our summer house.

    Sure, growing things in pots is nice, too, but I do not think that
    asparagus and artichokes will do good in such a small home. :o(

    Perhaps some day you will have a larger space for growing all your
    favorites. Of course, by then you might not want to do it any more.

    M

    A portion of a nearby park auctions off about 40 10'x20' plots for
    gardeners to plant anything thay like. Microfarms! They have to bring
    water to their plots and erect scare crows, fences, bird boxes, etc., as
    desired. It's really neat to watch the plots rise up from nothing, but it
    is a lot of work.

    The proceeds from the auction go to the township schools.

    I'll take pictures of them periodically and post them to the food
    binaries ng.

    Andy

  19. Charles Gifford wrote on 19 Apr 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:


    "Victor Sack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    I know how highly you think of it, Bubba, and I actually
    bought some (from California, I think) maybe a month ago.

    I'm not sure it was the right season for asparagus, not even in
    California.

    Bubba, I just purchased some California asparagus this morning and
    I am looking forward to having about half of it for supper. The
    rest I will have tomorrow on pasta in some manner not yet decided.
    The earliest asparagus was, I think, from Mexico. I don't recall
    seeing white asparagus grown in California in my grocery store. I
    have seen the white grown in Washington state though.

    Charliam

    Aparagus...Loverly stuff...I just grill it after tossing in oil and
    salt (no not me, the asparagus). I can eat pounds of the stuff that way
    and it takes but mere minutes to cook up lots. Hot Grill turn the
    asparagus a quarter turn every 20-30 seconds or so; when grill marks
    appear its time to eat. A very definite finger food. I've eaten about 3
    lbs in the last 2 weeks.

    Now who does what to remove the woody bit?
    I use the bend and the woody bit snaps off method.
    What do you do?

    --
    No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
    Type 2 Diabetic Since Aug 2004
    1AC- 7.2, 7.3, 5.5, 5.6 mmol
    Weight from 265 down to 219 lbs. and dropping.
    Continuing to be Manitoban

  20. Monsur Fromage du Pollet said:


    Aparagus...Loverly stuff...I just grill it after tossing in oil and
    salt (no not me, the asparagus). I can eat pounds of the stuff that
    way and it takes but mere minutes to cook up lots. Hot Grill turn the
    asparagus a quarter turn every 20-30 seconds or so; when grill marks
    appear its time to eat. A very definite finger food. I've eaten about
    3 lbs in the last 2 weeks.


    If you've eaten that much already, here's one that might be a nice
    little change of pace. Grill or broil or steam or roast asparagus
    sliced in 2" lengths on the diagonal. Put it in an ice water bath as
    soon as it is cooked to your liking. Drain. Meanwhile, make a little
    dressing: 1 TB minced garlic, 1/4 - 1/2 tsp red chile flakes, 2 TB soy
    sauce, 1 tsp sesame oil. Mix cold asparagus with the dressing, let it
    marry for a while. Eat as a salad or cold side dish. -aem

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