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  1. Yes thats right
    This morning on my commute I was punched by some old guy as we passed.
    I was travelling (west) on the eastern freeway bike path just east of Blackburn Rd. I approached a couple on foot (traveling east) out for their morning stroll accompanied by a huge dumb ass brown labrador. Naturally I eased up a bit as the dog was off lead. I wouldnt have been doing more than 20km hour if that, but this guy starts screaming out "Slow down,Slow down .....blah blah blah".

    With the dog who was walking in front of the couple safely passed. The couple keeping to their side of the shared path. And me starting up the gentle incline towards Blackburn Rd...........speed as far as I was concerned was not an issue.

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    It seems some peoples idea of cyclist allowed to use shared paths is fat [censored] desk jockeys weaving along, seat down, helmet askew and trailing a pumpkin headed kid on the Huffy tag-a-long.
    I would be sure this couple are the parents of that guy who lives just off Heidleburg Rd.
    Anyway what a nutter apparentlly you can just do that. Any cyclist who you think is going a bit quick........just punch them.

  2. neverclimbed32 said:

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap
    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    Tempting to return the favour, but that never ends well.

    As for reporting it, it boils down to your word against his, and there's
    probably not much the police will do about it. :-(

    --
    My Usenet From: address now expires after two weeks. If you email me, and
    the mail bounces, try changing the bit before the "@ to usenet".

  3. Stuart Lamble said:
    neverclimbed32 said:

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap
    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    Tempting to return the favour, but that never ends well.

    As for reporting it, it boils down to your word against his, and there's
    probably not much the police will do about it. :-(

    A soaking with the water bottle seems appropriate.

    DaveB

  4. Stuart Lamble said:


    neverclimbed32 said:

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap
    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    Tempting to return the favour, but that never ends well.

    As for reporting it, it boils down to your word against his, and there's
    probably not much the police will do about it. :-(

    Ah, yes, but Today Tonight will!

    Trust in Naomi, she will show us the way! (go on, I dare you
    to call and suggest the story)

  5. neverclimbed32 said:

    Yes thats right
    This morning on my commute I was punched by some old guy as we passed.

    Sounds remarkably like this report in the BV forum today ...

  6. MalP said:

    Sounds remarkably like this report in the BV forum today ...

    Yes, I was getting a sense of deja vu, also.

  7. MalP said:

    Sounds remarkably like this report in the BV forum today ...

    Yep, has to be it.

    I think neverclimbed32 was quite reasonable and well controlled in his tone of voice, unlike the ped who was red in the face and trembling (with rage or adrenaline?). I think maybe the ped was totally fed up with riders racing past this morning/week/month/year and snapped, so neverclimbed32 copped it.

    We weren't going fast when passing this couple, but they probably saw us "screaming" (from their perspective) around the corner before we slowed down.

    Heh, they should have seen us a bit further back on the downhill, we were probably doing 60... with neverclimbed32's single speed and my Raleigh 20 SA 3 speed...

  8. I wonder if it's mere coincidence that this incident happened a matter of days after the little paper gave us that award winning piece of journalism about cyclists speeding at Southbank, the Bourke St Mall and the Bay Trail?

  9. "neverclimbed32" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Yes thats right
    This morning on my commute I was punched by some old guy as we passed.
    I was travelling (west) on the eastern freeway bike path just east of
    Blackburn Rd. I approached a couple on foot (traveling east) out for
    their morning stroll accompanied by a huge dumb ass brown labrador.
    Naturally I eased up a bit as the dog was off lead. I wouldnt have been
    doing more than 20km hour if that, but this guy starts screaming out
    "Slow down,Slow down .....blah blah blah".

    With the dog who was walking in front of the couple safely passed. The
    couple keeping to their side of the shared path. And me starting up the
    gentle incline towards Blackburn Rd...........speed as far as I was
    concerned was not an issue.

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap
    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    It seems some peoples idea of cyclist allowed to use shared paths is
    fat [censored] desk jockeys weaving along, seat down, helmet askew and
    trailing a pumpkin headed kid on the Huffy tag-a-long.
    I would be sure this couple are the parents of that guy who lives just
    off Heidleburg Rd.
    Anyway what a nutter apparentlly you can just do that. Any cyclist who
    you think is going a bit quick........just punch them.

    --
    neverclimbed32

    mmmmm, If someone punched me as I was riding past under similar conditions,
    said ped would have to pick himself off the ground after getting whipped
    around the head by a 1.2 mtr bike lock.

    DJ

    Quoted message said:
  10. DJ said:

    "neverclimbed32" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes thats right
    This morning on my commute I was punched by some old guy as we passed.
    I was travelling (west) on the eastern freeway bike path just east of
    Blackburn Rd. I approached a couple on foot (traveling east) out for
    their morning stroll accompanied by a huge dumb ass brown labrador.
    Naturally I eased up a bit as the dog was off lead. I wouldnt have been
    doing more than 20km hour if that, but this guy starts screaming out
    "Slow down,Slow down .....blah blah blah".

    With the dog who was walking in front of the couple safely passed. The
    couple keeping to their side of the shared path. And me starting up the
    gentle incline towards Blackburn Rd...........speed as far as I was
    concerned was not an issue.

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we swap
    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    It seems some peoples idea of cyclist allowed to use shared paths is
    fat [censored] desk jockeys weaving along, seat down, helmet askew and
    trailing a pumpkin headed kid on the Huffy tag-a-long.
    I would be sure this couple are the parents of that guy who lives just
    off Heidleburg Rd.
    Anyway what a nutter apparentlly you can just do that. Any cyclist who
    you think is going a bit quick........just punch them.

    --
    neverclimbed32

    mmmmm, If someone punched me as I was riding past under similar conditions,
    said ped would have to pick himself off the ground after getting whipped
    around the head by a 1.2 mtr bike lock.

    Phone camera >snick< I'm reporting you to the police buddy. Notebook
    out, time, date, location, description etc then stop off at the nearest
    cop shop to report the incident.

    In an ideal world where the red mist doesn't descend that is.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

  11. Euan said:

    Phone camera >snick< I'm reporting you to the police buddy. Notebook
    out, time, date, location, description etc then stop off at the nearest
    cop shop to report the incident.

    In an ideal world where the red mist doesn't descend that is.

    In an ideal world none of this [censored] would occur, but ...

    Where dealing with aggro it's best to stay calm, stay in control. Well that's what I got taught in Aikido. Although it could be good to get a pic of the offender I'd be careful to do this in a way that doesn't inflame the situation even more, ie: wait until the plonker has walked off, get a picture from the side etc. And make detailed notes of what occured and get witnesses.

  12. Euan said:
    Quoted message said:

    mmmmm, If someone punched me as I was riding past under similar conditions,
    said ped would have to pick himself off the ground after getting whipped
    around the head by a 1.2 mtr bike lock.

    Phone camera >snick< I'm reporting you to the police buddy. Notebook
    out, time, date, location, description etc then stop off at the nearest
    cop shop to report the incident.

    In an ideal world where the red mist doesn't descend that is.
    --
    Cheers
    Euan

    If you are confronted by an advancing pedestrian, be sure and unclip both
    feet and put them on the ground.

    Other wise you're standing there, one foot clipped in, both hands on the
    handlebars and the ped can just cover one hand and you're basically trapped
    on the bike and can't move for an instant and he has a free hand to do
    whatever he wants - like slug you in the jaw.

    Had one do that to me after I yelled 'yo' at his kid who was spinning
    around in the middle of the path with a thin 10 foot piece of dead tree
    branch...as though I had the -nerve- to yell in the presence of his angel.

    Fortunately a 'get your hand offa me...' in a low voice caused him to back
    away, wherein I rode off. Grrrrrr. ;-)

  13. Tamyka Bell said:

    Trust in Naomi, she will show us the way! (go on, I dare you
    to call and suggest the story)

    given a choice between elderly australian terrorised by bicycle hoons

    and

    bicyclist being assaulted

    which do you really think they will do?

  14. HJJ said:

    If you are confronted by an advancing pedestrian, be sure and unclip both
    feet and put them on the ground.

    Other wise you're standing there, one foot clipped in, both hands on the
    handlebars and the ped can just cover one hand and you're basically trapped
    on the bike and can't move for an instant and he has a free hand to do
    whatever he wants - like slug you in the jaw.

    Had one do that to me after I yelled 'yo' at his kid who was spinning
    around in the middle of the path with a thin 10 foot piece of dead tree
    branch...as though I had the -nerve- to yell in the presence of his angel.

    Fortunately a 'get your hand offa me...' in a low voice caused him to back
    away, wherein I rode off. Grrrrrr. ;-)


    hmmm... good point... a feint towards the ped and pulling your hand *down* may work...

    My only experience of avoiding assault was to dismount from the bike completely. The handlebars as I (seemingly!) nonchalently rocked the the bike back and forward a little remained pointed at the fellow's groin. That left one arm to block with and the bike to follow through with if he escalated his aggro.

    This was after I remonstrated with him after stopping quickly to avoid running over his little furrball dog. He decided to drag his hulk over to me to continue the conversation closer. Apparently another cyclist had done 60 miles an hour (!?) on the path, so this meant he was immune to any bylaws about controlling his dog. Not a real deep thinker this one...

    ali

  15. --
    Frank
    [email hidden]
    Drop DACKS to reply
    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stuart Lamble said:


    neverclimbed32 said:

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we


    swap

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    Tempting to return the favour, but that never ends well.

    As for reporting it, it boils down to your word against his, and there's
    probably not much the police will do about it. :-(

    Ah, yes, but Today Tonight will!

    Trust in Naomi, she will show us the way! (go on, I dare you
    to call and suggest the story)

    I can see it now: "Brave Pensioner Stands Up To Bicyle Hoon!" :-P

    me

  16. Plodder said:

    --
    Frank
    [email hidden]
    Drop DACKS to reply
    "Tamyka Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Stuart Lamble said:


    neverclimbed32 said:

    I wasn't about to engage in conversation with this ranting, wildly
    gesticulating mad man. That is untill he took a swing at me as I rode
    past, connecting with my upper arm. I rode on initially............ I
    couldn't believe what had just happened. Riding back to engage the
    couple they/he were unremorsefull of their actions. I requested we


    swap

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    names and address's as I intend to report this a...hole to plod, after
    all its assult. Funnily enough he wasn't keen on the idea.

    Tempting to return the favour, but that never ends well.

    As for reporting it, it boils down to your word against his, and there's
    probably not much the police will do about it. :-(

    Ah, yes, but Today Tonight will!

    Trust in Naomi, she will show us the way! (go on, I dare you
    to call and suggest the story)

    I can see it now: "Brave Pensioner Stands Up To Bicyle Hoon!" :-P

    me

    Suggest to them that the geriatrics were cannabals threatening to eat you, that'll get her attention.

    Pat

  17. alison_b said:
    HJJ said:

    If you are confronted by an advancing pedestrian, be sure and unclip
    both
    feet and put them on the ground.

    Other wise you're standing there, one foot clipped in, both hands on
    the
    handlebars and the ped can just cover one hand and you're basically
    trapped
    on the bike and can't move for an instant and he has a free hand to do
    whatever he wants - like slug you in the jaw.

    Had one do that to me after I yelled 'yo' at his kid who was spinning
    around in the middle of the path with a thin 10 foot piece of dead tree
    branch...as though I had the -nerve- to yell in the presence of his
    angel.

    Fortunately a 'get your hand offa me...' in a low voice caused him to
    back
    away, wherein I rode off. Grrrrrr. ;-)


    hmmm... good point... a feint towards the ped and pulling your hand
    *down* may work...

    My only experience of avoiding assault was to dismount from the bike
    completely. The handlebars as I (seemingly!) nonchalently rocked the
    the bike back and forward a little remained pointed at the fellow's
    groin. That left one arm to block with and the bike to follow through
    with if he escalated his aggro.

    This was after I remonstrated with him after stopping quickly to avoid
    running over his little furrball dog. He decided to drag his hulk over
    to me to continue the conversation closer. Apparently another cyclist
    had done 60 miles an hour (!?) on the path, so this meant he was immune
    to any bylaws about controlling his dog. Not a real deep thinker this
    one...

    The Koonung trail ... mmm, fun.

    It's more interesting at night, when the stealth joggers are out.

  18. Bleve said:

    It's more interesting at night, when the stealth joggers are out.

    ahh yes... stealth joggers.

    The Siderney bay run around near the iron cove bridge is great for
    this.

    Cycling in the "bike only lane" at dark, you can see enough in front to
    avoid most obstacles, except the phalanx of joggers coming the other
    way across the whole path.

    I mean.. can they see the big bright light coming towards them, or are
    they like rabbits and 'roos?

  19. In aus.bicycle on 28 Sep 2006 18:47:43 -0700

    Duncan said:


    Cycling in the "bike only lane" at dark, you can see enough in front to
    avoid most obstacles, except the phalanx of joggers coming the other
    way across the whole path.

    I mean.. can they see the big bright light coming towards them, or are
    they like rabbits and 'roos?

    I bet they'd see the buzzsaw on the front of the bent. Whether they
    see it in *time* now that's a different matter.

    Zebee

  20. DaveB said:

    A soaking with the water bottle seems appropriate.


    Full of old cat [censored] (I mean RIPE) perhaps. But hen that is a waste of
    a good water bottle. Oh well, a Molitov coctail perhaps instead ;-)

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