Aspartame Not Good!!!

(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic

I can see I shouldn't have given you the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully someone lurking learnt
something.

Go away.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz. dx May 2002 , A1C 8.2=>5.8, wt 117kg=>90kg, no meds, diet and not enough
exercise. I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully,
because experience can be an expensive teacher.
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"Abe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Thought I smelled Spam cooking. Smells bad, too.

(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the website below with information
about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as good. I heard of
sucrose and froctose but dont really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

dorway.comdorway.comOpen ↗

Maybe a different topic?. Insane obsessed people never give up. They go to any length to push
their obsessions. Even take on different roles on the internet. They waste their time and annoy
others. But it is an open internet so let ramble. Some of them do not have a cause but simply want
to be noticed.

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I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the

website

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below with information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as
good. I heard of sucrose and froctose but

dont

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really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

Hey Abe! Wanna buy a bridge? *sheesh* Do you fall for every urban legend that goes around? This one
was started by one Nancy Markle, aka Betty Martini. She is as wacky as they get. And if you don't
know the difference between sucrose and fructose or how they affect BG, you're in some deep doo doo!

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I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the

website

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below with information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as
good. I heard of sucrose and froctose but

dont

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really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

The best alternative to Aspertame is Aspertame. It's about as dangerous as any other substance
you're like to eat or drink in the next 50 years, but if you fall into the trap of believing all the
[censored] that's posted about it, you'll never eat anything ever again.

(Just check food labels and you'll see why I said that)

Beav

(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the website below with
information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as good. I
heard of sucrose and froctose but dont really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

Aspartame isn't safe if you eat it by the bucketload. Feed a pound of the stuff to a rat and sure
you'll get anamolies. There's nothing wrong with aspartame, I've been drinking diet coke since it
came out 25 years or so ago.

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(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the website below with
information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as good. I
heard of sucrose and froctose but dont really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

dorway.comdorway.comOpen ↗

Maybe a different topic?. Insane obsessed people never give up. They go to any length to push
their obsessions. Even take on different roles on the internet. They waste their time and annoy
others. But it is an open internet so let ramble. Some of them do not have a cause but simply want
to be noticed.

Thanks To the people who've given constructive info and to the idoits who've responded in a stupid
and aggressive manor I'm sorry you felt your only response was to abuse and insult me. I genuinely
believed that the information given could be true and given what now about large corporations and
the extent to which they will go to cover up the truth I don't believe I was that naive to believe
so. I am a Type 2 Diabetic and have also been diagnosed as having Crohns Disease and am in the
middle of My first flare up so I need all the help I can get from groups like these.

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(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the website below with
information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as good. I
heard of sucrose and froctose but dont really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

Aspartame isn't safe if you eat it by the bucketload.

What IS safe if you eat it by the bucketful?

Feed a pound of the

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stuff to a rat and sure you'll get anamolies. There's nothing wrong with aspartame, I've been
drinking diet coke since it came out 25 years or so ago.

I don't use it myself, and now I don't think I will either. It would seem that it DOES do
major damage.

Beav

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Thanks To the people who've given constructive info and to the idoits who've responded in a stupid
and aggressive manor I'm sorry you felt your only response was to abuse and insult me. I genuinely
believed that the information given could be true and given what now about large corporations and
the extent to which they will go to cover up the truth I don't believe I was that naive to believe
so. I am a Type 2 Diabetic and have also been diagnosed as having Crohns Disease and am in the
middle of My first flare up so I need all the help I can get from groups like these.

If you truly are a diabetic in need of help, then perhaps you should have checked the rules of
etiquette for Usenet posting before you posted here. It is customary to introduce yourself first.
And it is always wise to check your facts. When the first post a person makes is yet another troll
like post on an urban legend that has been beat to death, it isn't going to go over very well.

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Abe said:

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On 15 Feb 2004 13:20:43 -0800, [email hidden] (Abe) wrote:

Thanks To the people who've given constructive info and to the idoits who've responded in a stupid
and aggressive manor I'm sorry you felt your only response was to abuse and insult me. I genuinely
believed that the information given could be true and given what now about large corporations and
the extent to which they will go to cover up the truth I don't believe I was that naive to believe
so. I am a Type 2 Diabetic and have also been diagnosed as having Crohns Disease and am in the
middle of My first flare up so I need all the help I can get from groups like these.

Since this was your 2nd post on the subject in the last 30mins, you are very likely to get someones
dander up. You should have let it go at one post, that way you would have smelled only a little like
a troll.......BJ

Julie Bove said:

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Thanks To the people who've given constructive info and to the idoits who've responded in a
stupid and aggressive manor I'm sorry you felt your only response was to abuse and insult me. I
genuinely believed that the information given could be true and given what now about large
corporations and the extent to which they will go to cover up the truth I don't believe I was
that naive to believe so. I am a Type 2 Diabetic and have also been diagnosed as having Crohns
Disease and am in the middle of My first flare up so I need all the help I can get from groups
like these.

If you truly are a diabetic in need of help, then perhaps you should have checked the rules of
etiquette for Usenet posting before you posted here. It is customary to introduce yourself first.
And it is always wise to check your facts. When the first post a person makes is yet another troll
like post on an urban legend that has been beat to death, it isn't going to go over very well.

OK Abe, I took you at face value in your first post. Go back and read my answer there again. Julie
is dead right here. Now, if you'd like to start a new thread; saying something like "Hi, I'm Abe and
I was diagnosed T2 ....." with a little background, you may be surprised at the different response
you get. But if you want to depart now in a huff, you are going to miss out on some information that
may save your life, limbs or sight. Just be aware that this is an un-moderated group of individuals
who have no hesitation in calling a spade a bloody shovel. Welcome to the world of diabetes. I hope
to see you again in a different thread.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz. dx May 2002 , A1C 8.2=>5.8, wt 117kg=>90kg, no meds, diet and not enough
exercise. I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully,
because experience can be an expensive teacher.
--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

There is no need for all the concern about Aspartame or any other item. If you don't like it, do not
use it. No need for a big deal unless someone wants attention. I would not touch one diabetic drug
with a ten foot pole. Others do not feel that way So I should post 500 times warning people?. Guy

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(Abe) said:

I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the website below with
information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as good. I
heard of sucrose and froctose but dont really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

Aspartame isn't safe if you eat it by the bucketload.

What IS safe if you eat it by the bucketful?

Feed a pound of the

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stuff to a rat and sure you'll get anamolies. There's nothing wrong with aspartame, I've been
drinking diet coke since it came out 25 years or so ago.

I don't use it myself, and now I don't think I will either. It would seem that it DOES do
major damage.

Beav

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What IS safe if you eat it by the bucketful?

Popcorn?

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Allow me to narrate my own experiences.

I am a very strong user of Aspartame as a sweetener, never having quite lost my "sweet tooth". For
years I have been suffering from heart palpitations (called an "ectopic heartbeat"😉, until recently
it's been affecting my sleep and driving me to distraction. Trying to eliminate any external factor
as contributing to it, I thought of cutting out Aspartame. I first did a search for an association
of Aspartame with my hert beat. Unfortunately all I could find was stuff blaming Aspartame for every
conceivable ailment known - maybe even the last few wars as well. I soon realised that it would be
impossible to reach a reasoned conclusion without experimenting. Basically, I went off Aspartame
cold turkey - completely, drinking only water instead. Although after a few days I thought that my
heartbeat problem had moderated, after a couple of weeks I found it did not make one hell of
difference. My heart beat did it's own thing, whether I did or didn't use Aspartame...... Although
I'm certain there might be some unforunates who have some allergy to the stuff, in my case it made
no difference. It's a pity you cannot have a rational discussion on this without copping all sorts
of crackpots putting out insane viewpoints.

Henry

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I'm a recently diagnosed Type 2 diabetic and I have been emailed the

website

Quoted message said:

below with information about Aspartame being not safe. Are there any alternatives that are just as
good. I heard of sucrose and froctose but

dont

Quoted message said:

really understand the afect they have on the BG levels

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Allow me to narrate my own experiences.

I am a very strong user of Aspartame as a sweetener, never having quite

lost

Quoted message said:

my "sweet tooth". For years I have been suffering from heart palpitations (called an "ectopic
heartbeat"😉, until recently it's been affecting my

sleep

Quoted message said:

and driving me to distraction. Trying to eliminate any external factor as contributing to it, I
thought of cutting out Aspartame. I first did a

search

Quoted message said:

for an association of Aspartame with my hert beat. Unfortunately all I

could

Quoted message said:

find was stuff blaming Aspartame for every conceivable ailment known -

maybe

Quoted message said:

even the last few wars as well. I soon realised that it would be

impossible

Quoted message said:

to reach a reasoned conclusion without experimenting. Basically, I went

off

Quoted message said:

Aspartame cold turkey - completely, drinking only water instead. Although after a few days I
thought that my heartbeat problem had moderated, after

a

Quoted message said:

couple of weeks I found it did not make one hell of difference. My heart beat did it's own thing,
whether I did or didn't use Aspartame...... Although I'm certain there might be some unforunates
who have some allergy to the stuff, in my case it made no difference. It's a pity you cannot

have

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a rational discussion on this without copping all sorts of crackpots

putting

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out insane viewpoints.

It's like anything else Henry. The VAST majority will have no ill effects from Aspartame and the odd
one will. A pal of mine gets a headache if he drinks any diet drink containing it, so guess what?
Correct, he no longer drinks it. Job done and no foul. I can't believe peple who don't understand
that not everything suits everyone.

I get a headache if I eat cheese, and if I don't get the headache before I go to bed, I have crappy
dreams. No cheese, no headache and no crappy dreams.

Now maybe I should start a website explaining the lethality of cheese, starting with good old
Cheddar and working right through to very old sweaty sock.

Beav

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What IS safe if you eat it by the bucketful?

Popcorn?

Dream on Julie. It's corn.

Beav

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I don't use it myself, and now I don't think I will either. It would seem that it DOES do
major damage.

Beav

It does...you have some examples ??

Ever hear of the placebo affect ?? Is your pal a hyperchondriac ??

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I don't use it myself, and now I don't think I will either. It would

seem

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that it DOES do major damage.

Beav

It does...you have some examples ??

Just one.