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  1. ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods, including
    soft drinks, drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-calorie
    frozen desserts, packets Aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet), made
    up primarily of two amino acids, was thought to be the
    perfect artificial sweetener, but questions arose about the
    quality of the cancer tests. Considering how widely
    aspartame is used, independent tests should be conducted.
    Some people have reported dizziness, hallucinations, or
    headache after drinking diet soda, but such reports have
    never been confirmed in controlled studies. Obviously,
    anyone who thinks they've been affected by aspartame should
    avoid it. Also, the few people with the rare disease PKU
    (phenylketonuria) need to avoid it.

    There is little evidence that this or other artificial
    sweeteners have helped people lose weight. Indeed, since
    1980, consumption of artificial sweeteners and rates of
    obesity have both soared, however, those sweeteners
    certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.

    Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the Internet
    that aspartame is responsible for a wide range of diseases.
    Most such claims are not supported by studies.

  2. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods,
    including soft drinks, drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-
    calorie frozen desserts, packets Aspartame (Equal,
    NutraSweet), made up primarily of two amino acids, was
    thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener, but
    questions arose about the quality of the cancer tests.
    Considering how widely aspartame is used, independent
    tests should be conducted. Some people have reported
    dizziness, hallucinations, or headache after drinking diet
    soda, but such reports have never been confirmed in


    controlled

    Quoted message said:

    studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've been
    affected by aspartame should avoid it. Also, the few
    people with the rare disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need to
    avoid it.

    There is little evidence that this or other artificial
    sweeteners have helped people lose weight. Indeed, since
    1980, consumption of artificial sweeteners and rates of
    obesity have both soared, however, those


    sweeteners

    Quoted message said:

    certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.

    Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the Internet
    that aspartame is responsible for a wide range of
    diseases. Most such claims are not


    supported

    Quoted message said:

    by studies.

    Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics who make
    these wild claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar and
    charlatan, is their leader. Years ago she claimed that it
    causes blindness. However, there are no armies of blind
    people these days.

    She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.

  3. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods,
    including soft drinks, drink mixes, gelatin desserts,
    low-calorie frozen desserts, packets Aspartame (Equal,
    NutraSweet), made up primarily of two amino acids, was
    thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener, but
    questions arose


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the quality of the cancer tests. Considering how widely
    aspartame is


    used,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    independent tests should be conducted. Some people have
    reported dizziness, hallucinations, or headache after
    drinking diet soda, but such reports have never been
    confirmed in


    controlled

    Quoted message said:

    studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've been
    affected by aspartame should avoid it. Also, the few
    people with the rare disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need
    to avoid it.

    There is little evidence that this or other artificial
    sweeteners have helped people lose weight. Indeed, since
    1980, consumption of artificial sweeteners and rates of
    obesity have both soared, however, those


    sweeteners

    Quoted message said:

    certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.

    Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the Internet
    that aspartame


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    responsible for a wide range of diseases. Most such
    claims are not


    supported

    Quoted message said:

    by studies.

    Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics who make
    these wild claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar and
    charlatan, is their leader. Years ago she claimed that it
    causes blindness. However, there are no armies of blind
    people these days.

    She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.

    Oh, so now scientific studies would matter? Don't you ever
    wonder why people go after one product and not others? Do
    you think that whatever you can't live without is OK?

    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have sugar and honey available. Do you think you
    are being healthier in some way?

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have sugar and honey available. Do you think you
    are being healthier in some way?

    No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate, I'd
    have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I switched
    from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  5. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods,
    including soft


    drinks,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-calorie frozen
    desserts, packets Aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet), made
    up primarily of two amino acids,


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener, but
    questions arose


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the quality of the cancer tests. Considering how
    widely aspartame is


    used,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    independent tests should be conducted. Some people
    have reported dizziness, hallucinations, or headache
    after drinking diet soda, but such reports have never
    been confirmed in


    controlled

    Quoted message said:

    studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've been
    affected by


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    should avoid it. Also, the few people with the rare
    disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need to avoid it.

    There is little evidence that this or other artificial
    sweeteners have helped people lose weight. Indeed,
    since 1980, consumption of


    artificial

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sweeteners and rates of obesity have both soared,
    however, those


    sweeteners

    Quoted message said:

    certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.

    Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the
    Internet that


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    responsible for a wide range of diseases. Most such
    claims are not


    supported

    Quoted message said:

    by studies.

    Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics who
    make these wild claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar and
    charlatan, is their leader.


    Years

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ago she claimed that it causes blindness. However, there
    are no armies


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    blind people these days.

    She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.

    Oh, so now scientific studies would matter? Don't you ever
    wonder why people go after one product and not others? Do
    you think that whatever you can't live without is OK?

    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:

    and honey available. Do you think you are being healthier
    in some way?

    I do not use sugar or honey for several reasons. Honey is
    out, since I have a very sensitive allergy to bees. I carry
    an epi-pen whereever I go.

    I do not like the taste of sugar. I find it way too sweet,
    and, frankly, I do not need the extra, nutrition absent,
    calories. I prefer to eat sweet fruits and vegetables.
    WhenI idrink beverages, I prefer the taste of aspartame
    gives the beverage.

  6. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:

    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and honey available. Do you think you are being healthier
    in some way?

    No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate, I'd
    have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I
    switched from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    The evidence suggests that diet pop and weight gain have no
    relationship. The rate of obesity rises every year in
    America along with a rise in consumption of Aspartame.

  7. "Rich Murray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    the usual anti-aspartame [censored]

  8. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    > ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods,
    > including soft


    drinks,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-calorie frozen
    > desserts, packets Aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet),
    > made up primarily of two amino acids,


    was

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener, but
    > questions arose


    about

    Quoted message said:

    > the quality of the cancer tests. Considering how
    > widely aspartame is


    used,

    Quoted message said:

    > independent tests should be conducted. Some people
    > have reported dizziness, hallucinations, or headache


    after

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > drinking diet soda, but such reports have never been
    > confirmed in
    controlled
    > studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've been
    > affected by


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > should avoid it. Also, the few people with the rare
    > disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need to avoid it.
    >
    > There is little evidence that this or other
    > artificial sweeteners


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > helped people lose weight. Indeed, since 1980,
    > consumption of


    artificial

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > sweeteners and rates of obesity have both soared,
    > however, those
    sweeteners
    > certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.
    >
    > Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the
    > Internet that


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    > responsible for a wide range of diseases. Most such
    > claims are not
    supported
    > by studies.

    Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics who
    make these wild claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar
    and charlatan, is their leader.


    Years

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ago she claimed that it causes blindness. However,
    there are no armies


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    blind people these days.

    She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.

    Oh, so now scientific studies would matter? Don't you
    ever wonder why people go after one product and not
    others? Do you think that whatever you can't live
    without is


    OK?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:

    and honey available. Do you think you are being
    healthier in some way?

    I do not use sugar or honey for several reasons. Honey is
    out, since I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a very sensitive allergy to bees. I carry an epi-pen
    whereever I go.

    I do not like the taste of sugar. I find it way too sweet,
    and, frankly, I do not need the extra, nutrition absent,
    calories. I prefer to eat sweet fruits and vegetables.
    WhenI idrink beverages, I prefer the taste of aspartame
    gives the beverage.

    You should know that people with allergies are not healthy
    people. In your case that's understandable since you
    actually choose toxic chemicals to ingest over anything
    natural has created a compromised immune system for
    themselves. Disease will manifest itself for you. If you
    wait for the symptoms to become apparent the disease is
    already well established. If you were to have some
    alternative predictive work done you may head off some nasty
    stuff. Live Blood Microscopy can show disease before the
    symptoms become apparent. Iridology testing can show disease
    before the symptoms become apparent. Psychic readings can
    show disease before the symptoms become apparent.
    Synchrometer testing can show underlying conditions of
    disease before the symptoms become apparent.

    Given the views that you express in this chatroom, I would
    urge you to open your mind and take adavantage of one or
    more of these procedures for your own protection. I
    recommend that everyone use both "sides" for the achievement
    of a synergism that promotes healing and health.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave Wickware said:


    "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Dave

    Wickware said:

    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical, aspartame,
    when you have sugar and honey available. Do you think
    you are being healthier in some way?

    No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate, I'd
    have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I
    switched from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    The evidence suggests that diet pop and weight gain have no
    relationship. The rate of obesity rises every year in
    America along with a rise in consumption of Aspartame.

    That's only statistical over the population as a whole,
    Spammin' Dave, you imbecile. I'm sure we've all seen
    examples of a huge fat person going into McDonald's and
    ordering a couple of double cheeseburgers, large fries --
    and a Diet Coke. Such people are obviously kidding
    themselves.

    But for me, I know that the number of cans of soda I drink
    per month, if they contained sugar instead of aspartame,
    would add about 3000 calories to my consumption per month --
    that's roughly the number of calories you have to burn to
    lose a pound.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  10. "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    .cv.net...
    >
    > "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > al.com...
    > > ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet" foods,
    > > including soft


    drinks,

    Quoted message said:

    > > drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-calorie frozen
    > > desserts,


    packets

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet), made up primarily
    > > of two amino


    acids,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was

    Quoted message said:

    > > thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener,
    > > but questions


    arose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about
    > > the quality of the cancer tests. Considering how
    > > widely aspartame


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    used,
    > > independent tests should be conducted. Some people
    > > have reported dizziness, hallucinations, or
    > > headache


    after

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > drinking diet soda, but such reports have never
    > > been confirmed in
    > controlled
    > > studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've been
    > > affected by


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:

    > > should avoid it. Also, the few people with the
    > > rare disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need to avoid
    > > it.
    > >
    > > There is little evidence that this or other
    > > artificial sweeteners


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > helped people lose weight. Indeed, since 1980,
    > > consumption of


    artificial

    Quoted message said:

    > > sweeteners and rates of obesity have both soared,
    > > however, those
    > sweeteners
    > > certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.
    > >
    > > Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the
    > > Internet that


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:

    is
    > > responsible for a wide range of diseases. Most
    > > such claims are not
    > supported
    > > by studies.
    >
    > Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics
    > who make these


    wild

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar and charlatan,
    > is their leader.


    Years

    Quoted message said:

    > ago she claimed that it causes blindness. However,
    > there are no


    armies

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    > blind people these days.
    >
    > She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.

    Oh, so now scientific studies would matter? Don't you
    ever wonder why people go after one product and not
    others? Do you think that whatever you can't live
    without is


    OK?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical,
    aspartame, when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:

    and honey available. Do you think you are being
    healthier in some way?

    I do not use sugar or honey for several reasons. Honey
    is out, since I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a very sensitive allergy to bees. I carry an epi-pen
    whereever I go.

    I do not like the taste of sugar. I find it way too
    sweet, and, frankly,


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    do not need the extra, nutrition absent, calories. I
    prefer to eat sweet fruits and vegetables. WhenI idrink
    beverages, I prefer the taste of aspartame gives the
    beverage.

    You should know that people with allergies are not
    healthy people.

    Depends on your definition of healthy. I have had this
    allergy since I was a child.

    In your

    Quoted message said:

    case that's understandable since you actually choose toxic
    chemicals to ingest over anything natural has created a
    compromised immune system for themselves.

    Firstly, as I said, this allergy manifested itself when I
    was a child. Second, can you prove that I make such choice?
    No, you cannot. I do just the opposite. Every meal I consume
    is comprised of naturally grown foods. I take no medication
    on a regular basis, and I do not use vitamin pills or any
    other form of supplements.

    I have stated this before, but, your memory has got to be
    bad. Must be that contaminated ginseng.

    Quoted message said:

    Disease will manifest itself for you. If you wait for the
    symptoms to become apparent the disease is already well
    established. If you were to have some alternative


    predictive

    Quoted message said:

    work done you may head off some nasty stuff. Live Blood
    Microscopy can show disease before the symptoms become
    apparent.

    Utter quackery.

    Quoted message said:

    Iridology testing

    You have got to be a bigger moron than I thought. Iridology
    is physiologically impossible. I'll give you a hint: The
    same physiological parts of the eye that the iridologist
    uses are also used in iris scans for security systems. Now,
    use your brain to figure out why iridology is impossible.

    Quoted message said:

    can show disease before the symptoms become apparent.
    Psychic readings

    you means psycho readings?

    can

    Quoted message said:

    show disease before the symptoms become apparent.
    Synchrometer testing can show underlying conditions of
    disease before the symptoms become apparent.

    Hulda Clark quackery.

    Quoted message said:

    Given the views that you express in this chatroom, I would
    urge you to


    open

    Quoted message said:

    your mind and take adavantage of one or more of these
    procedures for your own protection.

    Nope. All considered and rejected as utterly bogus.

    I recommend that

    Quoted message said:

    everyone use both "sides" for the achievement of a
    synergism that promotes healing and health.

    I recommend that you go and learn something.

  11. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    >
    > "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 24, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    > P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in
    > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > ny.cv.net...
    > >
    > > "Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    > > message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    > > obal.com...
    > > > ASPARTAME ....Artificial sweetener: "Diet"
    > > > foods, including soft
    drinks,
    > > > drink mixes, gelatin desserts, low-calorie
    > > > frozen desserts,


    packets

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > Aspartame (Equal, NutraSweet), made up primarily
    > > > of two amino


    acids,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was
    > > > thought to be the perfect artificial sweetener,
    > > > but questions


    arose

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > about
    > > > the quality of the cancer tests. Considering how
    > > > widely


    aspartame

    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > used,
    > > > independent tests should be conducted. Some
    > > > people have reported dizziness, hallucinations,
    > > > or headache


    after

    Quoted message said:

    > > > drinking diet soda, but such reports have never
    > > > been confirmed


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > controlled
    > > > studies. Obviously, anyone who thinks they've
    > > > been affected by
    aspartame
    > > > should avoid it. Also, the few people with the
    > > > rare disease PKU (phenylketonuria) need to avoid
    > > > it.
    > > >
    > > > There is little evidence that this or other
    > > > artificial


    sweeteners

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    > > > helped people lose weight. Indeed, since 1980,
    > > > consumption of
    artificial
    > > > sweeteners and rates of obesity have both
    > > > soared, however, those
    > > sweeteners
    > > > certainly might aid some strong-willed dieters.
    > > >
    > > > Finally, be wary of claims scattered around the
    > > > Internet that
    aspartame
    > is
    > > > responsible for a wide range of diseases. Most
    > > > such claims are


    not

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > supported
    > > > by studies.
    > >
    > > Quite true. There are the anti-aspartame lunatics
    > > who make these


    wild

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > claims. Betty Martini, a proven liar and
    > > charlatan, is their


    leader.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Years
    > > ago she claimed that it causes blindness. However,
    > > there are no


    armies

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of
    > > blind people these days.
    > >
    > > She also mis-represents herself as a doctor.
    >
    > Oh, so now scientific studies would matter? Don't
    > you ever wonder


    why

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > people go after one product and not others? Do you
    > think that whatever you can't live without


    is

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    OK?

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical,
    > aspartame, when you


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sugar
    > and honey available. Do you think you are being
    > healthier in some way?

    I do not use sugar or honey for several reasons. Honey
    is out, since I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    a very sensitive allergy to bees. I carry an epi-pen
    whereever I go.

    I do not like the taste of sugar. I find it way too
    sweet, and,


    frankly,

    Quoted message said:

    I

    Quoted message said:
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    do not need the extra, nutrition absent, calories. I
    prefer to eat


    sweet

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    fruits and vegetables. WhenI idrink beverages, I
    prefer the taste of aspartame gives the beverage.

    You should know that people with allergies are not
    healthy people.

    Depends on your definition of healthy. I have had this
    allergy since I was


    a

    Quoted message said:

    child.

    In your

    Quoted message said:

    case that's understandable since you actually choose
    toxic chemicals to ingest over anything natural has
    created a compromised immune system for themselves.

    Firstly, as I said, this allergy manifested itself when I
    was a child. Second, can you prove that I make such
    choice? No, you cannot. I do just


    the

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    opposite. Every meal I consume is comprised of naturally
    grown foods. I


    take

    Quoted message said:

    no medication on a regular basis, and I do not use vitamin
    pills or any other form of supplements.

    I have stated this before, but, your memory has got to be
    bad. Must be


    that

    Quoted message said:

    contaminated ginseng.

    Quoted message said:

    Disease will manifest itself for you. If you wait for
    the symptoms to become apparent the disease is already
    well established. If you were to have some alternative


    predictive

    Quoted message said:

    work done you may head off some nasty stuff. Live Blood
    Microscopy can show disease before the symptoms become
    apparent.

    Utter quackery.

    Quoted message said:

    Iridology testing

    You have got to be a bigger moron than I thought.
    Iridology is physiologically impossible. I'll give you a
    hint: The same physiological parts of the eye that the
    iridologist uses are also used in iris scans for security
    systems. Now, use your brain to figure out why iridology
    is impossible.

    Quoted message said:

    can show disease before the symptoms become apparent.
    Psychic readings

    you means psycho readings?

    can

    Quoted message said:

    show disease before the symptoms become apparent.
    Synchrometer testing can show underlying conditions of
    disease before the symptoms become apparent.

    Hulda Clark quackery.

    Quoted message said:

    Given the views that you express in this chatroom, I
    would urge you to


    open

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    your mind and take adavantage of one or more of these
    procedures for your own protection.

    Nope. All considered and rejected as utterly bogus.

    I recommend that

    Quoted message said:

    everyone use both "sides" for the achievement of a
    synergism that promotes healing and health.

    I recommend that you go and learn something.

    Hard advice to accept from someone who loves to eat
    Aspartame.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,
    M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004 <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040625010438.16669.00000360@mb-
    m22.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Aspartame for dieters? From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 6/24/2004
    7:26 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Dave
    Wickware <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical,
    >aspartame, when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >and honey available. Do you think you are being
    >healthier in some way?

    No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate, I'd
    have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I
    switched from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    You might want to consider how healthy coke is.

    hoaxinfo.comcokeacid.htm

    I see your website and raise you facts:

    snopes.comacid.asp

    Snicker, snicker, snicker....

    (Please repost for Jan to get a clue).

    I went back and checked this thread in google -- I see that
    Jan posted a couple of URLs about soda consumption. Neither
    one said that the stuff was particularly dangerous. I have
    no idea why Jan thought they were something cautionary.
    Maybe she can't read.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  13. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t

    Quoted message said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040625010438.16669.00000360@mb-
    m22.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Aspartame for dieters? From:
    [email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 6/24/2004
    7:26 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    <[email hidden]>

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Dave
    Wickware <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical,
    >aspartame, when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >and honey available. Do you think you are being
    >healthier in some way?

    No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate, I'd
    have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I
    switched from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    You might want to consider how healthy coke is.

    hoaxinfo.comcokeacid.htm

    I see your website and raise you facts:

    snopes.comacid.asp

    Snicker, snicker, snicker....

    (Please repost for Jan to get a clue).

    Done!

    --
    Peter Bowditch The Millenium Project
    ratbags.comrsoles The Green Light
    ratbags.comgreenlight Quintessence of the Loon
    ratbags.comloon To email me use my first name
    only at ratbags.com

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Bowditch said:

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 25, 2004" <M.a.r.k

    P.r.o.b.e.r.t said:


    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:20040625010438.16669.00000360@mb-
    m22.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    >Subject: Re: Aspartame for dieters? From:
    >[email hidden] (David Wright) Date: 6/24/2004
    >7:26 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id:
    ><[email hidden]>
    >
    >In article
    ><[email hidden]>, Dave
    >Wickware <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>I do wonder why you eat a synthetic chemical,
    >>aspartame, when you have


    sugar

    Quoted message said:

    >>and honey available. Do you think you are being
    >>healthier in some way?
    >
    >No, but I'm avoiding gaining weight. By my estimate,
    >I'd have to exercise off an extra pound per month if I
    >switched from aspartame to sugar in my Coke.

    You might want to consider how healthy coke is.

    hoaxinfo.comcokeacid.htm

    I see your website and raise you facts:

    snopes.comacid.asp

    Snicker, snicker, snicker....

    (Please repost for Jan to get a clue).

    Done!

    I realized I should have amended my earlier posting to say
    that Jan's URLs showed no reason why *I* should have any
    particular worries about drinking Coke (with or without
    aspartame). The warnings were all about problems with kids
    drinking a lot of soda.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  15. Vashti <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    It wasn't a dark and stormy night when M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-

    June 25 said:

    snopes.comacid.asp

    And, of course related to that there's the tooth thing:
    snopes.comtooth.asp

    I actually tried it with one of my baby teeth when I was
    10 or so after having a "science" teacher tell us that
    little gem. The tooth was still there a week or so later
    but due to the way it looked I decided not to walk around
    with coke in my mouth for long periods of time. Lucky for
    me: I don't like carbonated beverages or most other drinks
    apart from water, tea and coffee anyway! 🙂

    Vashti

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think about
    it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and could very
    well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a theory, I don't
    drink soft drink myself.)

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

  16. "Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Vashti <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    It wasn't a dark and stormy night when M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-

    June 25 said:

    snopes.comacid.asp

    And, of course related to that there's the tooth thing:
    snopes.comtooth.asp

    I actually tried it with one of my baby teeth when I was
    10 or so after having a "science" teacher tell us that
    little gem. The tooth was still there a week or so later
    but due to the way it looked I decided not to walk
    around with coke in my mouth for long periods of time.
    Lucky for
    me: I don't like carbonated beverages or most other
    drinks apart from water, tea and coffee anyway! 🙂

    Vashti

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think about
    it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and could very
    well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a theory, I
    don't drink soft drink myself.)

    Hmmmm.Carole does not drink soft drinks and takes APAP for
    her occasional(???) hangover. Doesn't post for days, and
    then returns? No, I am not diagnosing her as an alcohol
    abuser, but, those are some interesting facts.

  17. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 29, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QmdEc.37327

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think
    about it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and
    could very well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a
    theory, I don't drink soft drink myself.)

    Hmmmm.Carole does not drink soft drinks and takes APAP for
    her occasional(???) hangover. Doesn't post for days, and
    then returns? No, I am not diagnosing her as an alcohol
    abuser, but, those are some interesting facts.

    I do binge a little here and there - so what? The reason
    I don't post all the time is I haven't always got
    anything interesting to say. Sometimes I just go off and
    do other things.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

  18. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 29, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QmdEc.37327

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think
    about it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and
    could very well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a
    theory, I don't drink soft drink myself.)

    Hmmmm.Carole does not drink soft drinks and takes APAP for
    her occasional(???) hangover. Doesn't post for days, and
    then returns? No, I am not diagnosing her as an alcohol
    abuser, but, those are some interesting facts.

    I do binge a little here and there - so what? The reason
    I don't post all the time is I haven't always got
    anything interesting to say. Sometimes I just go off and
    do other things.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

  19. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 29, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QmdEc.37327

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think
    about it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and
    could very well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a
    theory, I don't drink soft drink myself.)

    Hmmmm.Carole does not drink soft drinks and takes APAP for
    her occasional(???) hangover. Doesn't post for days, and
    then returns? No, I am not diagnosing her as an alcohol
    abuser, but, those are some interesting facts.

    I do binge a little here and there - so what? The reason
    I don't post all the time is I haven't always got
    anything interesting to say. Sometimes I just go off and
    do other things.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

  20. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 29, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QmdEc.37327

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One of the arguments against Coke Cola is it dissolves
    things, cleans toilet bowls etc. but when you think
    about it, hydrochloric acid does the same thing and
    could very well be an aid to digestion. (This is just a
    theory, I don't drink soft drink myself.)

    Hmmmm.Carole does not drink soft drinks and takes APAP for
    her occasional(???) hangover. Doesn't post for days, and
    then returns? No, I am not diagnosing her as an alcohol
    abuser, but, those are some interesting facts.

    I do binge a little here and there - so what? The reason
    I don't post all the time is I haven't always got
    anything interesting to say. Sometimes I just go off and
    do other things.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auhealth.htm

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