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  1. Fellow riders...I am a new manager of a bike shop in Colorado Springs (best job you can get straight out of the army!) What I am looking for is something will all talk about, but seldom tell the people who it matters too.

    What I am asking is for your help.

    What things in bike shops do you like?
    What things keep you coming back?
    What do you expect out of a shop?
    What would you change if it was your shop?
    What things do they do, that you could care less if they do them at all?
    What do you hate?

    I am simply trying to make a shop that continues cycling on the same path that snowboarding and other sports took off on...and it is hard to do without your input. Thanks again for your time, and hope to see you on the road.

    Aaron Johnson

  2. In the past couple of months there was another similar question here at cyclingforums.com or at bikeforums.net I would suggest researching those threads.

    For me...

    I want to be treated like a valued customer, even if I don't plan to buy the elite equipment.

    I want fair prices (although I don't expect my LBS to match online prices, I don't want to pay full "suggested retail price"😉.

    I want the ability to learn about local cycling routes and issues.

    I want to be left alone to browse, but know that someone is there to help if needed, and then when I need them they are actually helpful.

    I want someone who will be able to do the repairs I can not, and do them in a reasonable time frame.

    I go in often enough (at least monthly to a small shop), so I like to be recognized, even if they don't know my name... I recently bought some spray citrus cleaner, and it wasn't pressurized, so I returned it. They didn't have any more in stock, but I was comfortable just walking out without a refund, and coming back a week later when they had it. I felt safe because I knew they would remember that I was owed a can.

    When something is not stocked, I like hearing that there is an option to have an item ordered, and to know what the options are.

    I want someone around who knows bicycles other than the latest technological wonders.

  3. Good luck in the new job!

    The things that make me go back to bike shop again and again are

    1. Knowledgeable, friendly, professional staff

    2. An extensive range of stock

    3. Being treated as a customer, not an irritant

    4. A cup of tea (but maybe that's an English thing)

    5. Safe, secure bike parking area

  4. I don't want to have someone go get small bits from the back store room. I want all the tubes and tires and brake pads and things like that in an easy to browse location with prices clearly marked so I can compare. Highly pilferable items may of course be under glass.

    A water cooler and a place to sit right outside - maybe a pop machine too.

    I also like history - posters, antiques, old jerseys.

    Good luck with your shop.

  5. bigjohnsonkc said:

    Fellow riders...I am a new manager of a bike shop in Colorado Springs (best job you can get straight out of the army!) What I am looking for is something will all talk about, but seldom tell the people who it matters too.

    What I am asking is for your help.

    What things in bike shops do you like?
    What things keep you coming back?
    What do you expect out of a shop?
    What would you change if it was your shop?
    What things do they do, that you could care less if they do them at all?
    What do you hate?

    I am simply trying to make a shop that continues cycling on the same path that snowboarding and other sports took off on...and it is hard to do without your input. Thanks again for your time, and hope to see you on the road.

    Aaron Johnson


    A TV running either old race DVD's or OLN coverage of the Tour in July is a nice touch.

    JS

  6. One of the things I have found to be common in successful bike shops is the "Bargain Bin". Never throw anything away, throw it in the "Bargain Bin". The restorers, tinker's and urban-suburban bike mechanics love the "Bargain Bin". You build it and they will come.

    Learn as much as you can about anything that has a wheel and\pedal on it. Don't be surprised when you see someone rolls an excer-cycle or a wheelchair in to your shop for repair. This goes for old, new and somewhere in-between bikes too, you never know when you will get the "68" Schwinn Sting Ray with the broken Bendix brake bracket.

    Know all the places to ride with in at least a 100 mile radius of Colorado Springs, have a map book and be able to give good directions.

    Promote your shop and cycling anyway you can. Start or join a cycling club, sell the "Shop team Jersey's" for little or no markup.

    You have already done the most important thing ..... You started this thread.😉

    Lw

  7. I just want to first thank everyone for posting on this thread. Everything really does mean a lot. To domaindomain, yes that is an english thing, we just enjoy beer...michelob ultra ofcourse 😉 mmm...the gatorade of beers. Again thanks for the help in making my shop, the type of shop you would want to go to.

    Aaron

  8. What things in bike shops do you like?

    Freindly,knowledgable Staff willing to answer questions, however stupid.

    What things keep you coming back?

    See above, plus quick, reliable servicing.

    What do you expect out of a shop?

    A value for value relationship.

    What would you change if it was your shop?

    A Table and Chairs outside and yes, Coffee and PG Tips Tea, Water etc. (I don't expect it to be free)

    What things do they do, that you could care less if they do them at all?

    Erm, nothing really, I appreciate everything my LBS does, that's why I keep going back, I have a choice of around 5 good LBS in my area but I've been sticking to the same one...

    What do you hate?

    Taking my Bike in for a quick repair or tune-up and being told to leave it for a few Days, not unlike most, I have to work for a living so that eats into my Ride time enough as it is, so I like my Bike to be ready and waiting when I need it, and I'm willing to PAY for quick service...this is where the value for value relationship comes in..."you fix my bike right, first time, so I can ride it when I need it and I'll pay you what you ask"
    I reckon that's fair, don't you?

    I'm always willing to pay extra for great service..example, I sold a Bike on ebay, I took it to my LBS to pack and ship it, he asked for $65 so I gave him $100 cash because the Bike arrived at my Buyer's House on time and undamaged...
    Having said that, not all Customers are like me, but over time you'll recognize the ones that are, that's when you stop what you're doing and throw his/her bike up on the repair stand and do that tune-up for example while they wait....

    😉

  9. Quick and efficient service.

    Good attitude.

    Those are the two things I look for. I don't care if the guy is the best wrench in town, if he's arrogant and condescending, I won't go back.

    Cheers, and good luck!

  10. Aaron,

    This link might be helpful......

    http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/

    I know it's British, but there's bound to be something you'll find useful (like how to make a decent cup of tea! Actually, that's not on there - it's here or here, but you get my drift.)

    I like my LBS to be a friendly place, where the bikeguy knows about the parts he sells and can give good advice. This he does by getting out riding regularly and supporting a small team of riders who give excellent feedback.

    Best of luck with the shop - you're the envy of many on the forum I'm sure!

    Steve

  11. I am not in the business, but as a customer, here is what I like in some of our local shops and what I wish to find:

    – A good mechanical shop, with quick turnaround.
    Either bring your bike in (no appointment) and get it back within a few hours (or the next day), or take an appointment for the next day and get quick service. If you are near an office area, people may be interested in bringing their bike in at 8:00 or 9:00 a.m. and get it fixed at 5:30 p.m.
    Of course, when everybody brings their bikes at the same time for "Spring tuneup", delays are a bit longer.

    – Hands on training for basic repairs.
    I don't need it, but based on comments I hear when I "save the day" of other riders, it's really needed. Things like "how to repair a flat" (both repairing and changing the tube), tuning indexing, basic chain lube... with hands on on their own bike. A 4' 10" woman needs to try to put the tire back in place (and of course, she can do it if she knows a few tricks rather than simply look at the football player doing it). If you have a club, user group, etc. that does it, you may want to refer them directly to them.
    P.S. You won't make money on the repair class, but you'll keep the clientele, and if you programme the class at a low time (late Winter, for example), your work schedule won't look too bad.

    – Displays, self-service, etc.
    All our shops keep their parts behind the counter, and quite frankly, if it weren't for the web and e-mail forums, I wouldn't be aware of most of them.
    Some things could best be left in self-service shelves, others in assembled showcases. For example, is there a way make a "mini dark room" to see lights and compare them?
    Or to compare brake pads in the wet?

    – Specialty items and top items (depending on your market).
    For example, forget most basic brake pads and sell Kool Stop Salmon brake pads. Why? they cost 10% more but last 4-10 times longer and work much better in the rain or snow. So your customers will like them; they may come back less often for new pads, but they will like your advice.
    Ditto for lights. All shops sell battery headlights and rechargeable ones, but almost nobody sells bottle generators and dynohubs. You could develop a specialty market here, and if you are a good wheelbuilder, you might even suggest to your customers to buy bikes with a rebuilt front wheel.
    Right now, I think that most "utility riders" either need a generator-based headlight or one of the powerful LED-based headlights (when you need a be-seen headlight only)... but of course, I don't know how well – or poorly – streets are lit in your neck of the woods.

    – For different markets: a "commuter kit"
    Racks, panniers, fenders, decent lights... plus basic clothing like helmet, walkable shoes, gloves (cheap ones). Even if people don't buy the kit at once, it would give them an idea of how much they need to spend.

    – Bicycles that are actually useful for utility riding
    Touring bikes (light touring bikes like the Bianchi are affordable), good quality hybrids for those who like straight bars (but prefereably with bars that are curved near the end). In other words, bikes that can use 700x32 or 37 tires and fenders.

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