ASICS Kinsei

Fory Horio said:

Is there anybody experienced with the new ASICS Kinsei?

I would like to hear the opinion especially compare with
Kayano. I have been running with Kayanos for over 10 years.

Fory Horio

Yes I have, I've humped 6 or 7 of them, and they are all a dead lay.
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Bill 'Volkswagon' Davidson said:

Yes I have, I've humped 6 or 7 of them, and they are all a dead lay.

But I bet they're great for standing in, while you bend over and take a
photo of your ass.

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You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and your
Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post of some kind
to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look at the instep of
your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different material than the rest of
the sole.
Now that being said, the Kinsei is a really nice shoe with some neat
features. The gel provides a really cushy ride and the torsion bar gives a
nice transition from the impact to the toe off. However, whether it is
better than the ride of the Nimbus is up to the wearer's decision. Plus it's
what, 70 bucks more?
If you are in the Kayanos and they are working for you with no knee or lower
leg problems, and no desire to go out and get an orthotic, then stick with
what works. If you want to go for the flash and you don't mind providing a
supplemental medial post of some kind, then by all means spend the dough.
You will enjoy them as they do incorporate all the best features that Asics
has to offer.

Just my 2 cents
CRMF

"Fory Horio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Is there anybody experienced with the new ASICS Kinsei?

I would like to hear the opinion especially compare with
Kayano. I have been running with Kayanos for over 10 years.

Fory Horio

"lil'Mcgraw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and
your Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post
of some kind to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look
at the instep of your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different
material than the rest of the sole.
Now that being said, the Kinsei is a really nice shoe with some neat
features. The gel provides a really cushy ride and the torsion bar
gives a nice transition from the impact to the toe off. However,
whether it is better than the ride of the Nimbus is up to the wearer's
decision. Plus it's what, 70 bucks more?

I'm glad to see Asics trying to keep in the technology game with this
shoe and their R&D money. I always thought the Kayanos were overpriced
but if the shoe works for you, then it's correct. As for the $165 MSRP
for the Kinsei, well, choose the color that matchs your Hummer. Assuming
some of that new technology is really "good" then maybe some of the
features will work their way into the general line.

In addition, it's probably not a good time, economy wise, to come out
with shoe at the high end.

Quoted message said:

If you are in the Kayanos and they are working for you with no knee or
lower leg problems, and no desire to go out and get an orthotic, then
stick with what works. If you want to go for the flash and you don't
mind providing a supplemental medial post of some kind, then by all
means spend the dough. You will enjoy them as they do incorporate all
the best features that Asics has to offer.

Good solid answer considering the rash of [censored] crashing R.R. I'll
bet there are a lot of parents that would disown their kids knowing they
stayed forever at age 5. Some species eat their young - maybe they have
a sixth sense we should investigate.

-Doug

Doug Freese said:

"lil'Mcgraw" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Good solid answer considering the rash of [censored] crashing R.R.

-Doug

Really? Aren't you the guy who told me to ignore Miss Ann Thrope when I
first got here, and that you even liked that [censored]'s juvenile
snarling at the most innocuous questions? Why, yes, I do think it was
you.

I tell you what, Dougie, hostility and stupidity in otherwise good
newsgroups [censored] me off, so you just stand out of the way while I give
the trolls a dose of their own medicine. Unlike you, I didn't think
Thrope could be writing for Comedy Central. In fact, that was some
really dumb [censored].

Anyway, it takes time to cure the newsgroup of the infection, and
sometimes multiple treatments are necessary. It's filthy work, but
someone has to do it. I'm sure someone appreciates it.

Maybe Miss Ann Thrope will come back and put the twinkle in your eye.

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

But I bet they're great for standing in, while you bend over and take a
photo of your ass.

Please? PLEASEEEEEE BILL? For me? I love your ass, it's all I can
think of 18 hours a day, it's my one true love. Please take "a walk on
the wildside" with me Bill? I promise you'll never go back.
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"lil'Mcgraw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and your
Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post of some
kind to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look at the
instep of your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different material than
the rest of

I have the Kinsei's and have had 5 pairs now. I am sort of between the
Kayanos and the Kinseis but now that I bike 2-3 days a week running 4 times
a week hasn't had the strain on my legs that motion control shoes seem to
help. I love the Kinseis and the easier ride they give and they wear very
well so no complaints at all.

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Quoted message said:

Fory Horio said:

Is there anybody experienced with the new ASICS Kinsei?

I would like to hear the opinion especially compare with
Kayano. I have been running with Kayanos for over 10 years.

Fory Horio

Yes I have, I've humped 6 or 7 of them, and they are all a dead lay.
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Alric Knebel

I bet you haven't humped as many as I have. I usually like to walk down by
the water, and creep up on sunbathers. Then I take off my shoes, and get
my [censored] hard, and just about the time I start to cum, I gob off into my
shoe. Sometimes I like to see how close I can get without getting caught.
It's a dangerous game: I got caught not long ago.

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Quoted message said:

Maybe Miss Ann Thrope will come back and put the twinkle in your eye.

You obviously can't make a pimple on Miss Ann Thrope' s ass. When you
polish a turd it still smells like [censored].

Doug Freese said:

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Quoted message said:

Maybe Miss Ann Thrope will come back and put the twinkle in your eye.

You obviously can't make a pimple on Miss Ann Thrope' s ass. When you
polish a turd it still smells like [censored].

It reflects badly on you that you think so.

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Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Doug Freese said:

"lil'Mcgraw" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Good solid answer considering the rash of [censored] crashing R.R.

Quoted message said:

-Doug

Really? Aren't you the guy who told me to ignore Miss Ann Thrope when I
first got here, and that you even liked that [censored]'s juvenile
snarling at the most innocuous questions? Why, yes, I do think it was
you.

I tell you what, Dougie, hostility and stupidity in otherwise good
newsgroups [censored] me off, so you just stand out of the way while I give
the trolls a dose of their own medicine. Unlike you, I didn't think
Thrope could be writing for Comedy Central. In fact, that was some
really dumb [censored].

Anyway, it takes time to cure the newsgroup of the infection, and
sometimes multiple treatments are necessary. It's filthy work, but
someone has to do it. I'm sure someone appreciates it.

Maybe Miss Ann Thrope will come back and put the twinkle in your eye.

Dear Assperv,
Bill tells me you are this groups ass-man. Tonight while ytou are
sleeping, I'll sneak in and hump your ass. Then you'll be a REAL
assman. Of course you'll be all lubed and waiting up for me in
anticipation, so I'll make it another night, so I canb surprise you
and get a dry hump out of you.

Doug Freese said:

You obviously can't make a pimple on Miss Ann Thrope' s ass. When you
polish a turd it still smells like [censored].

Assperv always smells like that.

Alric Knebel [email protected] said:

Doug Freese said:

"Alric Knebel" <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe Miss Ann Thrope will come back and put the twinkle in your eye.

Quoted message said:

You obviously can't make a pimple on Miss Ann Thrope' s ass. When you
polish a turd it still smells like [censored].

It reflects badly on you that you think so.

Oh sure, it doesn't reflect badly on you, that you love ass, but it
does on him for liking the old hoe? You are one sick assperv Knebel.

Doug Freese said:

You obviously can't make a pimple on Miss Ann Thrope' s ass.

Actually, I think he could. He is a huge pus-filled head, so I think
he'd qualify.

Quoted message said:

When you
polish a turd it still smells like [censored].

He always smells that way.

lil'Mcgraw said:

You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and your
Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post of some kind
to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look at the instep of
your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different material than the rest of
the sole.

My feet are normal (medium) arch. Runner's World recommends a stability
shoes, whereas ASICS web site recommends a neutral cushioned for a
normal arch, so I guess I can go either way.

"Fory Horio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

lil'Mcgraw said:

You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and
your Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post
of some kind to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just
look at the instep of your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a
different material than the rest of the sole.

My feet are normal (medium) arch. Runner's World recommends a
stability
shoes, whereas ASICS web site recommends a neutral cushioned for a
normal arch, so I guess I can go either way.

One of the reasons I like the Asics 2120 is because it is a hybrid - it
has good cushioning and good stability. In some makes and models you
have to sacrifice one for the other.

-Doug

Hi guys,
Like Doug pointed out, the 2120 are a really good shoe with a medial post
and a lot of gel cushion throughout the heel and into the forefoot. They
work for a lot of runners, myself included.
One thing to keep in mind when you're choosing your shoe is the amount of
pronation that you do whilst running. If you have a medium arch and mild
pronation, then you could go either into the stability or cushioned shoe. If
you have a high, rigid arch and you under pronate, head straight into the
Kinsei or the Nimbus. Medium arch with normal pronation, go for the 2100
series or the Kayanos. Another trick to finding out your shoe type, not a
very scientific one but it helps, is to bend at the knees and see where they
go. If your knees go out, possibly a cushioned shoe is good cause you'll
tend to run on the outside or lateral part of your foot, an underpronator.
If your knees are straight or go in, the chances are you pronate somewhat
and your knees are compensating for the arch collapsing a little bit. Then
you would be best to go stability cause your foot lands on the lateral part
of the heel and rolls off the inside or medial part of the toe. The medial
post in the shoe helps to guide your foot strike a little bit. Check your
old shoes and see where they wear the most. Along the outside from heel to
toe would mean underpronate or from the outside heel to the inside toe means
normal or overpronate. Also, if you have flat feet and run on the inside of
your shoe, motion control is for you.
Ok, that's just my $.04
CRMF

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Quoted message said:

"Fory Horio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

lil'Mcgraw said:

You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and
your Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post of
some kind to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look at
the instep of your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different
material than the rest of the sole.

My feet are normal (medium) arch. Runner's World recommends a stability
shoes, whereas ASICS web site recommends a neutral cushioned for a
normal arch, so I guess I can go either way.

One of the reasons I like the Asics 2120 is because it is a hybrid - it
has good cushioning and good stability. In some makes and models you have
to sacrifice one for the other.

-Doug

This is a great advice. Thanks. My shoes always wear out from
outside heal to outside toe. I think I should try
neutral-cushioned shoes.

lil'Mcgraw said:

Hi guys,
Like Doug pointed out, the 2120 are a really good shoe with a medial post
and a lot of gel cushion throughout the heel and into the forefoot. They
work for a lot of runners, myself included.
One thing to keep in mind when you're choosing your shoe is the amount of
pronation that you do whilst running. If you have a medium arch and mild
pronation, then you could go either into the stability or cushioned shoe. If
you have a high, rigid arch and you under pronate, head straight into the
Kinsei or the Nimbus. Medium arch with normal pronation, go for the 2100
series or the Kayanos. Another trick to finding out your shoe type, not a
very scientific one but it helps, is to bend at the knees and see where they
go. If your knees go out, possibly a cushioned shoe is good cause you'll
tend to run on the outside or lateral part of your foot, an underpronator.
If your knees are straight or go in, the chances are you pronate somewhat
and your knees are compensating for the arch collapsing a little bit. Then
you would be best to go stability cause your foot lands on the lateral part
of the heel and rolls off the inside or medial part of the toe. The medial
post in the shoe helps to guide your foot strike a little bit. Check your
old shoes and see where they wear the most. Along the outside from heel to
toe would mean underpronate or from the outside heel to the inside toe means
normal or overpronate. Also, if you have flat feet and run on the inside of
your shoe, motion control is for you.
Ok, that's just my $.04
CRMF

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lil'Mcgraw wrote:
> You have to be aware that the Kinsei are a neutral cushioned shoe and
> your Kayanos are a stability shoe, therefore they have a medial post of
> some kind to guide your foot whereas the Kinsei does not. Just look at
> the instep of your shoe, in the arch, and you'll see a different
> material than the rest of the sole.
My feet are normal (medium) arch. Runner's World recommends a stability
shoes, whereas ASICS web site recommends a neutral cushioned for a
normal arch, so I guess I can go either way.

One of the reasons I like the Asics 2120 is because it is a hybrid - it
has good cushioning and good stability. In some makes and models you have
to sacrifice one for the other.

-Doug

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Quoted message said:

This is a great advice. Thanks. My shoes always wear out from
outside heal to outside toe. I think I should try
neutral-cushioned shoes.

Yup, you are an under-pronator aka supinator and a neutral-cushioned
shoe is classicly appropriate. Now you only have a few hundred choices.
🙂

-Doug