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  1. As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I found
    oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different
    brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

  2. Serendipity said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I


    found

    Quoted message said:

    oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different
    brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

    Methinks you need to invest in a basic Chinese American cook book.
    Many Chinese flavorings are very powerful, they need to be used with
    much discretion and do not belong in every Chinese American restaurant
    type dish. Believe it or not there are not all that many popular
    Chinese American restaurant type dishes that use sesame oil and/or
    oyster sauce... they definitely do not belong in chop suey, chow mein,
    lo mein or subgum chow mein (none of which are traditional Chinese
    dishes). By simply purchasing one of each from your stupidmarket's
    oriental foods section and using some of each in every dish is no more
    Chinese cooking than opening cans of Chun King. Very little of what
    you find on the typical Chinese American restaurant menu is part of
    traditional Chinese cusine. I would classify Chinese American
    restaurant cooking as a separate cusine unto itself.

    Btw, in Chinese cooking meats are a seasoning, and used very sparingly.

    Sheldon

  3. Sheldon' said:

    Methinks you need to invest in a basic Chinese American cook book.

    My favorite Chinese cookbook, which is scorned and sneered at by a few
    people here, is Betty Crocker's Chinese Cookbook. There are two. The
    second is called the New Chinese Cookbook. I like the first one best, but
    I believe it's out of print. After loaning mine out and never getting it
    back, I bought another copy on eBay. That one got lost when we moved, so I
    bought another one on eBay. It's got a dark blue cover.

    It's written by Leeann Chin, an immigrant from Canton, China. She owns a
    string of restaurants in the St. Paul/Minneapolis area. Her stuff is
    geared toward American cooks. Here's a copy of a post I made some time
    back. Some are from the Betty Crocker book, others are collected from
    other sources.

    Beef and Broccoli
    Chicken Fried Rice
    Shrimp Rangoon
    Egg Rolls
    Pork and Tofu Stir-Fry
    Potstickers
    Almond Cookies

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Beef and Broccoli (with variations)

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : beef main dishes
    stir-fry vegetables

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    ---Beef Prep----
    1 pound beef flank
    1 tablespoon vegetable oil
    1 teaspoon cornstarch
    1 teaspoon soy sauce
    1/8 teaspoon white pepper
    1 teaspoon ginger root -- finely minced
    1 teaspoon garlic -- finely minced
    ---Vegetable Prep---
    1 1/2 pounds broccoli
    3 whole green onions -- with tops
    ---Cornstarch Mixture---
    1/4 cup chicken broth
    1/4 cup oyster sauce
    2 tablespoons cornstarch
    ---Cooking----
    3 tablespoons vegetable oil
    2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    1/2 cup chicken broth

    1. Trim fat from beef; cut beef with grain into 2-inch strips. Cut strips
    across grain into 1/8-inch slices. Toss beef, 1 tablespoon of oil, 1
    teaspoon of cornstarch, sugar, soy sauce, white pepper, ginger, and garlic
    in a glass or plastic bowl. Cover and refrigerate for 20 minutes or
    longer.

    2. Cut broccoli into florets; place into boiling water. Cover and blanche
    for 1 minute; drain. Immediately rinse under cold running water; drain.
    Cut green onions into thin slices at the white end, and 2-inch pieces at
    the green end.

    3. Combine 1/4 cup chicken broth, oyster sauce, and 2 tablespoons of
    cornstarch in small bowl. Set aside.

    4. Heat wok until 1 or 2 drops of water sizzle and dissipate when
    sprinkled into wok. Add 3 tablespoons of oil, rotating wok to coat sides.
    Add beef mixture and stir-fry until beef is browned, about 3 minutes.
    Remove beef from wok.

    5. Add 2 tablespoons oil to wok, rotating wok to coat sides. Add broccoli
    and stir-fry for 1 minute. Stir in 1/2 cup chicken broth; heat to boiling.
    Stir in beef and heat to boiling again. Stir in cornstarch mixture; cook
    and stir until thickened, about 15 seconds. Garnish with green onions.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"
    Source:
    "adapted from a recipe in Betty Crocker's Chinese Cookbook"
    Copyright:
    "1991"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 295 Calories; 22g Fat (66.1%
    calories from fat); 18g Protein; 8g Carbohydrate; 2g Dietary Fiber; 39mg
    Cholesterol; 298mg Sodium. Exchanges: 0 Grain(Starch); 2 Lean Meat; 1
    Vegetable; 3 Fat.

    NOTES : May replace beef with 1 pound lean pork loin.
    Alternative vegetables:
    Boy choy, cut on the diagonal; leaves roughly chopped (1 pound)
    Green beans, cut into 1-inch pieces (1 pound)
    Pea pods, ends and string removed (8 ounces)
    Combination julienned carrots, red peppers, and onions
    Additional vegetables:
    mushrooms
    water chestnuts
    bamboo shoots

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Chicken Fried Rice

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 6 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : chicken rice
    side dishes stir-fry

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    ---Rice Prep---
    1 cup rice -- washed
    1 cup water
    ---Chicken Prep---
    2 chicken breast halves -- skinned and boned
    1/2 teaspoon cornstarch
    dash white pepper
    ---Other Prep---
    2 eggs -- slightly beaten
    4 whole green onions -- chopped
    1 cup bean sprouts -- rinsed
    ---Cooking---
    1 tablespoon vegetable oil
    2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    1 1/2 tablespoons soy sauce
    dash white pepper
    1/2 teaspoon sesame oil

    1. Place raw rice in 2-quart saucepan. Add enough cold water to cover
    rice. Wash rice by rubbing gently between fingers; drain. Repeat washing
    rice until water is clear (5 to 6 times). Drain. Add 1 cup water; heat to
    boiling. Cover tightly; reduce heat and simmer until liquid is absorbed,
    about 20 minutes. Set aside.

    2. Cut chicken into 1/4-inch pieces. Toss chicken, cornstarch, and dash
    of white pepper.

    3. Prepare eggs, green onions, and bean sprouts for cooking. Set aside,
    in separate bowls.

    4. Heat wok until 1 or 2 drops of water sizzle and dissipate when
    sprinkled in wok. Add 1 tablespoon oil; rotate wok to coat side. Add
    eggs; cook and stir until eggs are thickened throughout but still moist.
    Remove eggs from wok.

    5. Heat 2 tablespoons oil in wok, coating sides of wok. Add chicken and
    stir-fry until meat turns white. Add rice and stir-fry for 1 minute. Stir
    in soy sauce and a dash of white pepper. Add eggs, bean sprouts, then
    green onions, continuously moving food in the wok for about 30 seconds.
    Sprinkle with sesame oil, toss, and serve.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"
    Source:
    "adapted from Betty Crocker's Chinese Cookbook"
    Copyright:
    "1981"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 293 Calories; 13g Fat (41.6%
    calories from fat); 15g Protein; 27g Carbohydrate; 1g Dietary Fiber; 93mg
    Cholesterol; 311mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 1/2 Grain(Starch); 1 1/2 Lean
    Meat; 1/2 Vegetable; 1 1/2 Fat.

    NOTES : May substitute chicken with fresh or leftover diced pork, beef, or
    shrimp.
    Add-ins:
    mushrooms
    peas (fresh, frozen or pea pods)
    carrots, finely diced

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Shrimp Rangoon

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 60 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : appetizers

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    16 ounces cream cheese -- softened
    4 ounces canned shrimp -- drained and chopped
    3 whole green onions -- chopped
    1/8 teaspoon granulated garlic
    1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
    dash Tabasco sauce
    1/2 teaspoon soy sauce
    60 won-ton wrappers -- (12 ounce package)

    In medium bowl, combine all ingredients except won ton wrappers and mix
    until well blended.

    Using a pastry brush, moisten edges of won ton wrapper with water. Place
    scant teaspoon of filling in center of won ton wrapper. Fold in half to
    form triangle, pressing edges to seal. Pull bottom corners across and
    overlap slightly; moisten one corner and press to seal tips together.

    Fry in deep fryer at 350 F, turning once, until golden brown on both sides
    (about 4 minutes).

    May be frozen until needed.

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 52 Calories; 3g Fat (48.3% calories
    from fat); 2g Protein; 5g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; 12mg
    Cholesterol; 75mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1/2 Grain(Starch); 0 Lean Meat; 0
    Vegetable; 1/2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates.

    Serving Ideas : Serve plain, or with seafood cocktail sauce.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Egg Rolls

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 18 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : appetizers

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    1/2 pound ground pork, lean
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon cornstarch
    1/2 teaspoon soy sauce
    dash white pepper
    8 cups water
    2 1/2 pounds cabbage -- finely shredded
    2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    1/2 pound shrimp, cooked -- finely chopped
    1/3 cup green onions -- finely chopped
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1 teaspoon five-spice powder
    18 egg roll wrappers
    1 large egg -- beaten
    vegetable oil

    Mix pork, 1/4 tsp. salt, cornstarch, soy sauce, and white pepper. Cover
    and refrigerate about 20 minutes.

    Heat water to boiling in a stockpot or dutch oven; add cabbage. Drain;
    rinse cabbage in cold water until cold. Drain thoroughly; remove excess
    water by squeezing cabbage. (A salad spinner works nicely for this, too)

    Heat wok until very hot. Add 2 tbsp. vegetable oil; tilt wok to coat
    sides. Add pork; stir-fry 3 minutes, or until pork is no longer pink.
    Stir in cabbage, shrimp, green onions, 1/2 tsp. salt, and five-spice
    powder. Remove cabbage mixture from wok; cool.

    Place 1/2 cup cabbage mixture slightly below the center of egg roll
    wrapper. (Cover remaining wrappers with plastic wrap to keep the pliable.)
    Fold corner of egg roll wrapper closest to filling over filling, tucking
    the point under. Fold in and overlap the two side corners. Brush fourth
    corner with egg; roll up to seal. Repeat with remaining egg roll wrappers.
    (Cover filled egg rolls with plastic wrap to keep them from drying out.)

    Heat two inches of vegetable oil in wok to 350F. Fry 4 or 5 egg rolls at a
    time for 2-3 minutes or until golden brown, turning two or three times;
    drain on paper towels.

    Serve with hot mustard or sweet and sour sauce, if desired.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"
    Source:
    "adapted from Betty Crocker's 'New Chinese Cookbook' by Leeann Chin"
    Copyright:
    "1990"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 139 Calories; 3g Fat (16.4% calories
    from fat); 7g Protein; 22g Carbohydrate; 1g Dietary Fiber; 38mg
    Cholesterol; 328mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1 Grain(Starch); 1/2 Lean Meat; 1/2
    Vegetable; 1/2 Fat.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Pork and Tofu Stir-Fry

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : pork stir-fry

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    ---Sauce---
    1/4 cup chicken broth
    2 tablespoons hot bean paste
    2 tablespoons soy sauce

    1 1/2 tablespoons vegetable oil
    1/2 pound ground pork -- (75% lean)
    4 teaspoons finely minced garlic
    4 teaspoons finely minced ginger
    1 pound firm tofu -- prepared as directed below
    1 cup frozen peas -- thawed
    1 tablespoon cornstarch -- dissolved in...
    2 tablespoons water
    1 1/2 teaspoons sesame oil
    3 tablespoons thinly sliced green onions
    roughly chopped cashews -- for garnish
    steamed rice -- as accompaniment

    Prepare tofu:
    Freeze block of tofu in its package. Thaw, and press liquid out by setting
    a plate on the tofu, and a heavy can on the plate. Squeeze the tofu gently
    to remove even more water. Cut tofu into 1/2-inch cubes.

    Make sauce:
    Stir together broth, bean paste, and soy sauce. Set aside.

    Stir-fry pork:
    Heat a wok or large heavy skillet over high heat until hot and add 1 1/2
    tablespoons corn oil, swirling to coat. Add pork and stir-fry, breaking up
    lumps and adding remaining 1/2 tablespoon corn oil if meat sticks, until no
    longer pink. Add garlic and ginger and stir-fry over moderate heat until
    very fragrant, about 2 minutes.

    Finish stir-fry:
    Stir reserved sauce, then add to pork and bring to a simmer. Slide tofu and
    peas into sauce, stirring gently.

    Stir cornstarch mixture and add to stir-fry. Bring to a boil, stirring
    gently, and cook until thickened and glossy, about 15 seconds.

    Turn off heat and sprinkle with sesame oil and 2 tablespoons green onion.
    Stir once or twice, then serve sprinkled with remaining tablespoon green
    onion and cashews.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"
    Source:
    "adapted from a recipe by Gourmet"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 341 Calories; 24g Fat (62.4%
    calories from fat); 21g Protein; 11g Carbohydrate; 2g Dietary Fiber; 41mg
    Cholesterol; 644mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1/2 Grain(Starch); 4 Lean Meat; 0
    Vegetable; 3 1/2 Fat.

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Potstickers

    Recipe By :Hag
    Serving Size : 38 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : appetizers

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    1 pound ground pork
    1 cup cabbage -- finely shredded
    1/2 cup green onion -- finely chopped
    1/2 cup grated carrots
    3 tablespoons fresh ginger -- fine minced
    1 teaspoon MSG
    1/2 teaspoon granulated garlic
    2 tablespoons soy sauce
    2 tablespoons oyster sauce
    38 potsticker wrappers -- (12-oz. package)
    chicken stock
    ---Sweet Dipping Sauce---
    3 tablespoons sugar
    3 tablespoons white vinegar
    3 tablespoons soy sauce
    shreds of ginger
    ---Salty Dipping Sauce---
    3 tablespoons soy sauce
    3 tablespoons oyster sauce
    2 cloves garlic -- minced
    1/4 teaspoon lime juice

    Mix all ingredients (except the potsticker wrappers and chicken stock)
    thoroughly. Lay a potsticker wrapper on potsticker press. Brush the edges
    with water. Place about 1 1/2 to 2 teaspoons of meat mixture into the
    center of the wrapper. Crimp.

    Heat a nonstick frying pan over medium-high heat. When hot, add about 2
    teaspoons vegetable oil. Arrange potstickers in the pan. Fry until the
    side is browned, about 1 minute. Flip the potsickers.

    Add enough stock to come halfway up the sides of pot stickers. Cover and
    simmer until stock is almost absorbed, about 10 minutes. Uncover and cook
    until stock is completely absorbed and bottoms of pot stickers are crisp.

    Sweet Dipping Sauce:
    Mix well to dissolve completely. Refrigerate until serving.

    Salty Dipping Sauce:
    Mix well and let set over night, chilling before serving.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 67 Calories; 3g Fat (35.1% calories
    from fat); 3g Protein; 7g Carbohydrate; trace Dietary Fiber; 9mg
    Cholesterol; 263mg Sodium. Exchanges: 1/2 Grain(Starch); 1/2 Lean Meat; 0
    Vegetable; 0 Fruit; 1/2 Fat; 0 Other Carbohydrates.

    NOTES : Chicago Cook-In 2002

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Almond Cookies

    Recipe By 😄amsel in dis Dress
    Serving Size : 0 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : cookies desserts

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ ------------------------------­--
    3 cups flour
    1 cup sugar
    1 teaspoon baking soda
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    1 cup shortening
    2 teaspoons almond extract
    1 egg -- slightly beaten
    8 ounces blanched almonds

    1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees.
    2. Combine flour, sugar, baking soda and salt. Cut in shortening. Stir in
    almond extract and egg.
    3. Knead until a soft dough is formed. Shape into balls the size of
    walnuts.
    4. Place on baking sheets and flatten slightly. Make a dent about 1/4 inch
    deep in the center of each cookie and press an almond into the center.
    5. Bake for about 12 minutes.

    Cuisine:
    "Chinese"

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    Per Serving (excluding unknown items): 5358 Calories; 332g Fat (54.7%
    calories from fat); 91g Protein; 528g Carbohydrate; 26g Dietary Fiber;
    187mg Cholesterol; 1879mg Sodium. Exchanges: 21 1/2 Grain(Starch); 6 Lean
    Meat; 62 1/2 Fat; 13 1/2 Other Carbohydrates.

    --
    "Years ago my mother used to say to me... She'd say,
    'In this world Elwood, you must be oh-so smart or oh-so pleasant.'
    Well, for years I was smart.... I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

    *James Stewart* in the 1950 movie, _Harvey_

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    Serendipity said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I


    found

    Quoted message said:

    oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different
    brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

    Try 'em. I like Lee Kum Kee for oyster sauce. I haven't noticed much
    differences among sesame oils.

    Aaron

  5. Serendipity said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I
    found oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of
    different brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy?


    TIA

    Any sesame oil that says "100% pure" on the label will do. The label
    will probably say 'toasted' or 'roasted' somewhere, too. As others
    have noted, use it as a final aromatic seasoning. (It's also good in
    omelets or scrambled eggs--maybe 5 drops mixed in with 2 eggs.)

    Making oyster sauce is an involved process, and there's quite a
    variation in resulting taste. The advice to look for 'oyster
    extract(-ives)' as the #1 ingredient is good. Ken Hom, a well-regarded
    Chinese cookbook author, advises buying the most expensive, because you
    don't want an inferior one. He probably has a favorite brand but
    couldn't name it in a book. We currently have two in the cupboard, of
    which we like the taste of the Lee Kum Kee brand better. It's made in
    the U.S. but lists oyster first in the ingredients list. The other
    brand is made in Hong Kong but lists water, sugar and cornstarch before
    it gets to the oyster, which should have warned us away from it.

    Shoaxing rice wine is good to cook with, but a dry sherry is a fine
    substitute.

    Getting a cookbook would be a good step, but don't get a "Chinese
    American" one. Nowadays there is no need to 'dumb down' any cuisine.
    Not only are ingredients from around the world more available than ever
    before, people's palates are more adventurous. Look for a book with a
    section on ingredients and another section on some techniques, not just
    recipes. And have fun with it. The variety of Chinese cooking is
    marvelous.

    -aem

  6. Sheldon said:
    Serendipity said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I

    found

    Quoted message said:

    oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different
    brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

    Methinks you need to invest in a basic Chinese American cook book.
    Many Chinese flavorings are very powerful, they need to be used with
    much discretion and do not belong in every Chinese American restaurant
    type dish. Believe it or not there are not all that many popular
    Chinese American restaurant type dishes that use sesame oil and/or
    oyster sauce... they definitely do not belong in chop suey, chow mein,
    lo mein or subgum chow mein (none of which are traditional Chinese
    dishes). By simply purchasing one of each from your stupidmarket's
    oriental foods section and using some of each in every dish is no more
    Chinese cooking than opening cans of Chun King. Very little of what
    you find on the typical Chinese American restaurant menu is part of
    traditional Chinese cusine. I would classify Chinese American
    restaurant cooking as a separate cusine unto itself.

    Btw, in Chinese cooking meats are a seasoning, and used very sparingly.

    Sheldon, I appreciate the advice. I will admit to being very new at
    trying Chinese cooking. We enjoy it so much out that I thought I would
    try it at home. I've been watching the cooking shows. Unfortunately,
    the only dish I have mastered is refried (pork fried) rice and a few
    simple stir fries🙁 Specifically, I would like to make a good chicken
    chop suey, beef and broccoli (mine isn't too bad but still not quite
    right), and won ton soup. I wouldn't mind being able to make spring
    rolls and egg rolls, neither of which I have tried. Would you be so
    kind as to recommend a good basic Chinese cookbook? TIA

    Quoted message said:


    Sheldon

  7. Damsel in dis Dress said:
    Sheldon' said:

    Methinks you need to invest in a basic Chinese American cook book.

    My favorite Chinese cookbook, which is scorned and sneered at by a few
    people here, is Betty Crocker's Chinese Cookbook. There are two. The
    second is called the New Chinese Cookbook. I like the first one best, but
    I believe it's out of print. After loaning mine out and never getting it
    back, I bought another copy on eBay. That one got lost when we moved, so I
    bought another one on eBay. It's got a dark blue cover.

    It's written by Leeann Chin, an immigrant from Canton, China. She owns a
    string of restaurants in the St. Paul/Minneapolis area. Her stuff is
    geared toward American cooks. Here's a copy of a post I made some time
    back. Some are from the Betty Crocker book, others are collected from
    other sources.

    <snip of very generous offering of recipes>

    Thankyou so very much!!! I've printed them and off to experiment. I
    really appreciate your help!

  8. Serendipity said:

    [snip] Specifically, I would like to make a good chicken
    chop suey, beef and broccoli (mine isn't too bad but still not quite
    right), [snip]

    Beef and broccoli tips. Smash a garlic clove and put it in the oil
    when you first start. Stir it around until it browns, then remove it
    after it has flavored the oil and before it burns. Peel the broccoli
    stems and slice them diagonally about 1/4" thick, and use them with the
    flowerets. Finish the dish with a couple of TB of oyster sauce.
    Finally, look for Chinese broccoli in your produce section or in an
    Asian market if you have one. Often called 'gai lan' (with alternate
    spellings). It also takes very well to oyster sauce.

    -aem

  9. On 14 Mar 2005 13:43:37 -0800, aem <[email hidden]> wrote:
    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    Getting a cookbook would be a good step, but don't get a "Chinese
    American" one. Nowadays there is no need to 'dumb down' any cuisine.
    Not only are ingredients from around the world more available than ever
    before, people's palates are more adventurous. Look for a book with a
    section on ingredients and another section on some techniques, not just
    recipes. And have fun with it. The variety of Chinese cooking is
    marvelous.

    Ordinarily I might agree, but the OP's case is a bit different. IIRC,
    the dishes she expressed an interest in _are_ more Americanized dishes: chop
    suey, beef and broccoli, etc. An authentic Chinese cookbook which shows you
    how to make cold jellyfish salad, char siu bao and 8 treasure sticky rice may
    not cover those things. Maybe a "Chinese American" cookbook is what's called
    for in this situation. It's not ideal for people interested in eating the
    "real stuff", but not everyone wants that.

    Ariane
    --
    Dysfunction: The only consistent feature of all your dissatisfying
    relationships is you.
    http://www.despair.com/demotivators/dysfunction.html

  10. Ariane Jenkins said:

    Ordinarily I might agree, but the OP's case is a bit different.


    IIRC,

    Quoted message said:

    the dishes she expressed an interest in _are_ more Americanized


    dishes: chop

    Quoted message said:

    suey, beef and broccoli, etc. An authentic Chinese cookbook which


    shows you

    Quoted message said:

    how to make cold jellyfish salad, char siu bao and 8 treasure sticky


    rice may

    Quoted message said:

    not cover those things. Maybe a "Chinese American" cookbook is


    what's called

    Quoted message said:

    for in this situation. It's not ideal for people interested in


    eating the

    Quoted message said:

    "real stuff", but not everyone wants that.

    Okay, how about Gloria Miller's "Thousand Recipe Chinese Cookbook." It
    is a little dated now as to ingredients (she couldn't anticipate how
    international the distribution of foodstuffs became), but it's a good
    introduction to techniques, and the recipes range from the very
    familiar to the exotic. It also doesn't limit itself to stirfrying.

    -aem

  11. aem said:


    Okay, how about Gloria Miller's "Thousand Recipe Chinese Cookbook." It
    is a little dated now as to ingredients (she couldn't anticipate how
    international the distribution of foodstuffs became), but it's a good
    introduction to techniques, and the recipes range from the very
    familiar to the exotic. It also doesn't limit itself to stirfrying.

    Hehe, judging from its massive size, it doesn't limit itself to
    anything. ;D I have it, although I haven't made many things out of it. It's
    a good read, although it might be a tad intimidating to someone who's new to
    Chinese cuisine. IIRC, she does have a nice discussion about the different
    regional cuisines in China.

    Ariane

  12. "Serendipity" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the grocery
    store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I found oyster
    sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different brands. How
    do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

    If you are interested in a guide to bring with you shopping, try this book:

    Linda Bladholm's
    The Asian Grocery Store Demystified

    This spiral bound book is especially useful as the chapters are presented as
    "grocery aisles" and brand recommendations are given ranging from high
    quality to very good.

  13. In my experience, if there are multiple brands of a Chinese product you
    want to buy, try to buy one that was made in either Taiwan or the USA
    rather than one from mainland China. You'll pay a bit more for the
    product, but you might be less likely to run into quality control
    issues. Just MHO, as I've eaten tons of stuff produced in the PRC and
    none of it ever killed me, but there seem to be better quality control
    mechanisms in this country and Taiwan than in mainland China.

    Cheers,

    Adilah

  14. Aaron Bergman said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Sheldon said:
    Serendipity said:

    As a follow-up to my chicken chop suey question, I stopped at the
    grocery store for more supplies. I couldn't fine xianxing but I

    found

    Quoted message said:

    oyster sauce and dark sesame oil. There were a couple of different
    brands. How do I determine what brand of these to buy? TIA

    Try 'em. I like Lee Kum Kee for oyster sauce. I haven't noticed much
    differences among sesame oils.

    Aaron


    I use the Japanese one - something -doya I think. The bottle is kind of
    hour glass.

  15. Chicago Metro residents over 18 are invited to participate. Please
    assist a graduate student by completing a short survey for a research
    project on Chicago metro grocery stores. In order for this project to
    be successful, your help is needed. Please complete the survey found
    at the following link:

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=91842971261

    By clicking on this link, you will be directly taken to this survey. It
    should take no longer than 10 minutes to complete. Question eight is
    wide please scroll to the right to see all categories. Your time and
    effort is greatly appreciated.

    Sincerely,

    Grateful Graduate Student

  16. grocerypals wrote on 14 Apr 2005 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:


    Chicago Metro residents over 18 are invited to participate. Please
    assist a graduate student by completing a short survey for a
    research project on Chicago metro grocery stores. In order for
    this project to be successful, your help is needed. Please
    complete the survey found at the following link:

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=91842971261

    By clicking on this link, you will be directly taken to this
    survey. It should take no longer than 10 minutes to complete.
    Question eight is wide please scroll to the right to see all
    categories. Your time and effort is greatly appreciated.

    Sincerely,

    Grateful Graduate Student

    Boy that was fun! And I lied my ass off. I don't even live in the USA
    never mind Chicago.

    --
    No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.
    Type 2 Diabetic Since Aug 2004
    1AC- 7.2, 7.3, 5.5, 5.6 mmol
    Weight from 265 down to 219 lbs. and dropping.
    Continuing to be Manitoban

  17. -----snip-----

    "> No Bread Crumbs were hurt in the making of this Meal.

    Quoted message said:

    Type 2 Diabetic Since Aug 2004
    1AC- 7.2, 7.3, 5.5, 5.6 mmol
    Weight from 265 down to 219 lbs. and dropping.
    Continuing to be Manitoban

    Canajuns. Frostbite of the neurons....

    John<==loathes Lablatt's

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