Article about Dreamfields Pasta at eDiets

"sh0rtcircuit (Deb)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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http://www.ediets.com/news/article.cfm?cmi=522326&cid=6&code=75960

My question is what is the validity of using people with a normal
metabolism?

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This measure of blood glucose levels comes from in vivo (live people)
studies.
A quality control test, Anfinsen said, involved some 45 to 50 people who
were
screened as healthy people without any metabolic disorders. Those test
subjects
underwent a total of 300 to 400 test runs.
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Their systems would tend to behave similarly over a large range of carb
loading.
Wouldn't it be a better test to use diabetics whose BG levels would be more
reflective of the amount of carbs they ingested.

BJ

BJ in Texas said:

"sh0rtcircuit (Deb)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

http://www.ediets.com/news/article.cfm?cmi=522326&cid=6&code=75960

My question is what is the validity of using people with a normal
metabolism?

<Quote>
This measure of blood glucose levels comes from in vivo (live people)
studies.
A quality control test, Anfinsen said, involved some 45 to 50 people who
were
screened as healthy people without any metabolic disorders. Those test
subjects
underwent a total of 300 to 400 test runs.
</Quote>

Their systems would tend to behave similarly over a large range of carb
loading.
Wouldn't it be a better test to use diabetics whose BG levels would be more
reflective of the amount of carbs they ingested.

BJ

IMO, they should use subjects from both groups. I'm interested in
knowing how foods effect me (as a non-diabetic) but I don't monitor
because I'm not forced to. So the info is potentially helpful in
deciding whether or not this product might fit into one's woe. I've
never been much interested in pasta, so I doubt I'll ever buy these
products. I only posted it as a FYI for those who are or who may be
considering using it. The article doesn't necessarily reflect any
opinion of mine.

Maybe they used normal subjects because previous studies only included
diabetics? (pure supposition on my part)

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Sh0rtcircuit (Deb)
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"sh0rtcircuit (Deb)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Maybe they used normal subjects because previous studies only included
diabetics? (pure supposition on my part)

My point and MHO was that in using non-diabetics they could not get
an accurate measure of the carb impact of the food. If I understand
correctly, a non-diabetic will produce insulin in sufficent quantities to
cover a wide range of carb loads and show very little change in BGs.

BJ

"BJ in Texas" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Maybe they used normal subjects because previous studies only included
diabetics? (pure supposition on my part)

My point and MHO was that in using non-diabetics they could not get
an accurate measure of the carb impact of the food. If I understand
correctly, a non-diabetic will produce insulin in sufficent quantities to
cover a wide range of carb loads and show very little change in BGs.

BJ

I'm not a diabetic and I eat the dreamfields once in while and what I find
strange is that I don't gain any water weight when consuming it whereas when
I eat regular pasta, rice, flour etc I gain significant water weight.

Sid...

Me too. I've eaten the Dreamfields pastas 5 out of the last 7 days and
have lost 1/2 a pound. No bloating, lethargy, water retention or hunger
pangs.

sprudil said:

I'm not a diabetic and I eat the dreamfields once in while and what I find
strange is that I don't gain any water weight when consuming it whereas when
I eat regular pasta, rice, flour etc I gain significant water weight.

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Bev

Bev-Ann said:

Me too. I've eaten the Dreamfields pastas 5 out of the last 7 days and
have lost 1/2 a pound. No bloating, lethargy, water retention or hunger
pangs.

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on Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:10:32 GMT, "sprudil" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm not a diabetic and I eat the dreamfields once in while and what I find
strange is that I don't gain any water weight when consuming it whereas when
I eat regular pasta, rice, flour etc I gain significant water weight.

This is a classic YMMV food. Just as people react differently to things
like sugar alcohols, people are going to be reacting differently to
Dreamfields. But I also think that, given highly individual reactions, it
isn't necessarily appropriate to extrapolate from the experience of
diabetics and say, it's good/bad for my LC diet.

I think most experienced LCers know enough to approach new LC processed
foods with caution. They know enough to gauge the effect on themselves
and know if what they're experiencing means the food is not for them.
Everybody has their own set of symptoms that will resurface if they're
consuming too many carbs - whether resurge in cravings, allergies,
digestive problems, sluggishness, brainfog, sleepiness, heartburn, water
retention, going out of ketosis or weight gain.

I worry about those just starting LC, though. All the more important to
counsel people to start off with minimally processed foods until they have
a better understanding of their own bodies' reactions.

Dan
325/211/180
Atkins since 1/1/02 (yeah, it was a New Year's Resolution)
Besetting sins: good beer, German bread, and Krispy Kremes