Armstrong will crack

Norm Tuttle said:

All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching. The Tour is all about the
mountains and the TTs, the flat stages and boring sprints and
breakways by no names are just window dressing. Tomorrow is when
we'll find out who's for real and who's a pretender. It would not
suprise me if a rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo
comes out of nowhere to become a legit GC contender. Last year proved
that age is catching up to Armstrong and this year will I will make a
bold prediction.

Armstrong will crack, lose time to 1 or 2 riders in the TTs and one or
two of the mountain stages and will not win the Tour.

The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who
knows nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the
suckers have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux
in the Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the
invicible champ. Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days.
Can't wait.

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

But maybe they might start racing tomorrow..............

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All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching. The Tour is all about the
mountains and the TTs, the flat stages and boring sprints and breakways
by no names are just window dressing. Tomorrow is when we'll find out
who's for real and who's a pretender. It would not suprise me if a
rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo comes out of nowhere
to become a legit GC contender. Last year proved that age is catching
up to Armstrong and this year will I will make a bold prediction.

Armstrong will crack, lose time to 1 or 2 riders in the TTs and one or
two of the mountain stages and will not win the Tour.

The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who knows
nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the suckers
have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux in the
Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the invicible champ.
Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days. Can't wait.

Yep ... you tell 'em Norm. You obviously know it all.

I think you are incorrect, in a number of areas.

Lance has stated publicly that the TT up Mt Ventoux in the Dauphine Libere
was just a test for equipment and he did not want to hit it as hard as he
did last year when he came to the tour slightly fatigued from it. He will
not make the same mistake twice. If you think that was his best effort at
the TT up Mt Ventoux in the Dauphine Libere, you're in for a big surprise.

Ullrich's team is not riding very cohesive in the mountains this tour. That
will get even worse on Friday and Saturday.

Lance will put time on everyone on these super-hard mountain stages. To
under-estimate Lance is a big mistake. Whether you like him or not, he is a
very intelligent rider with a great team and manager. He is right where he
wants to be.

Never underestimate the power of a super-motivated, highly capable, talented
individual like Lance Armstrong.

~ 007 ~

"Norm Tuttle" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching. The Tour is all about the
mountains and the TTs, the flat stages and boring sprints and breakways
by no names are just window dressing. Tomorrow is when we'll find out
who's for real and who's a pretender. It would not suprise me if a
rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo comes out of nowhere
to become a legit GC contender. Last year proved that age is catching
up to Armstrong and this year will I will make a bold prediction.

Armstrong will crack, lose time to 1 or 2 riders in the TTs and one or
two of the mountain stages and will not win the Tour.

The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who knows
nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the suckers
have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux in the
Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the invicible champ.
Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days. Can't wait.

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Davey said:

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

You really love cycling then eh??

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But maybe they might start racing tomorrow..............

They were racing today,anyone notice??

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The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who knows
nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the suckers
have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux in the
Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the invicible champ.
Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days. Can't wait.

He's got to crack someday, but that someday will not likely
be this year. He looks to be confident and in good form.

Hamilton struggled a little on Stage 10, and Ullrich had some
distress at the very end of the stage, but overall Ullrich looks
to be in great form.

M.

Davey said:

Norm Tuttle <[email hidden]> writes:

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

THAT'S PURE GENIUS! Who else could think of having dog sled races on
the Yukon River in July, when the ice is gone? That would be compelling
television, wouldn't it? Would we have rescue crews standing by or
would it be kind of a "Survivor" thing?

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Norm Tuttle said:

All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching. The Tour is all about the
mountains and the TTs, the flat stages and boring sprints and
breakways by no names are just window dressing. Tomorrow is when
we'll find out who's for real and who's a pretender. It would not
suprise me if a rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo
comes out of nowhere to become a legit GC contender. Last year proved
that age is catching up to Armstrong and this year will I will make a
bold prediction.

Armstrong will crack, lose time to 1 or 2 riders in the TTs and one or
two of the mountain stages and will not win the Tour.

The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who
knows nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the
suckers have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux
in the Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the
invicible champ. Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days.
Can't wait.

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

Discovery Channel will be covereing them this winter with commentary from
Armstrong and Sheryl. The progam will have Cialis and an Austin urology
practice as the main sponsors.

"Norm Tuttle" wrote...

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All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching.

Trautwig's posting to rbr!

JF

Norm Tuttle said:

It would not suprise me if a
rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo comes out of nowhere
to become a legit GC contender.

Like who? Vino is not in this year's race. Ain't nobody else with
all the goods: climb, TT, good team.

Cya in Paris.
--dt

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

Tim Lines said:

THAT'S PURE GENIUS! Who else could think of having dog sled races on
the Yukon River in July, when the ice is gone? That would be compelling
television, wouldn't it? Would we have rescue crews standing by or
would it be kind of a "Survivor" thing?

Labradors can swim (before they get cancer). Perhaps
thats why Hamilton's one was called tugboat.

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I think you are incorrect, in a number of areas.

Lance has stated publicly that the TT up Mt Ventoux in the Dauphine Libere
was just a test for equipment and he did not want to hit it as hard as he
did last year when he came to the tour slightly fatigued from it. He will
not make the same mistake twice. If you think that was his best effort at
the TT up Mt Ventoux in the Dauphine Libere, you're in for a big surprise.

Ullrich's team is not riding very cohesive in the mountains this tour.

That

Quoted message said:

will get even worse on Friday and Saturday.

Lance will put time on everyone on these super-hard mountain stages. To
under-estimate Lance is a big mistake. Whether you like him or not, he is

a

Quoted message said:

very intelligent rider with a great team and manager. He is right where he
wants to be.

Never underestimate the power of a super-motivated, highly capable,

talented

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individual like Lance Armstrong.

Don't forget to use a condom. Lance sleeps around.

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~ 007 ~

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Quoted message said:

All these flat stages with no TT or mountain stage have made for one
long boring stretch of TdF watching. The Tour is all about the
mountains and the TTs, the flat stages and boring sprints and breakways
by no names are just window dressing. Tomorrow is when we'll find out
who's for real and who's a pretender. It would not suprise me if a
rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo comes out of nowhere
to become a legit GC contender. Last year proved that age is catching
up to Armstrong and this year will I will make a bold prediction.

Armstrong will crack, lose time to 1 or 2 riders in the TTs and one or
two of the mountain stages and will not win the Tour.

The hype has gotten unreal for LA and even the general public who knows
nothing about cycling think he's gonna win again. But all the suckers
have jumped on the bandwagon too late. The TT up Mt Ventoux in the
Dauphine Libere was not a fluke, and he's no longer the invicible champ.
Watch the attacks fly by him in the coming days. Can't wait.

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Norm Tuttle said:

It would not suprise me if a
rider that is not Armstrong/Ullrich/Hamilton/Mayo comes out of nowhere
to become a legit GC contender.

Like who? Vino is not in this year's race. Ain't nobody else with
all the goods: climb, TT, good team.

Cya in Paris.
--dt

Uh, are you someone that *knew* (before the race last year) Vino would
suddenly climb and recover well enough for a 3rd place in Paris? Google
please. If not, what is so hard to believe that another rider will step up?
Look at Indurain during the 1990 (the one previous to his first win) Tour.
Very few riders win a Tour immediately after placing on the podium. Greg
Lemond and Jan Ullrich did, but those are the 2 exceptions. More often than
not, the first Tour win comes from seemingly out of the blue and then
afterwards everyone claims to have seen it coming.

Donald Munro said:

Davey Crockett said:

Quoted message said:

Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the Tour
has been so far.

Tim Lines said:

THAT'S PURE GENIUS! Who else could think of having dog sled races on
the Yukon River in July, when the ice is gone? That would be compelling
television, wouldn't it? Would we have rescue crews standing by or
would it be kind of a "Survivor" thing?

Labradors can swim (before they get cancer). Perhaps
thats why Hamilton's one was called tugboat.

Yeah, we'd call it the ``Tugboat Memorial''

Tim Lines said:

Davey said:

Norm Tuttle <[email hidden]> writes:
Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the
Tour
has been so far.

THAT'S PURE GENIUS! Who else could think of having dog sled races on
the Yukon River in July, when the ice is gone? That would be
compelling television, wouldn't it? Would we have rescue crews
standing by or would it be kind of a "Survivor" thing?

Davey scratches his head, wondering if he said anything about July

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...To under-estimate Lance is a big mistake.

That's "misunderestimate." (He's from Texas.)

In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

Look at Indurain during the 1990 (the one previous to his first win) Tour.
Very few riders win a Tour immediately after placing on the podium. Greg
Lemond and Jan Ullrich did, but those are the 2 exceptions. More often than
not, the first Tour win comes from seemingly out of the blue and then
afterwards everyone claims to have seen it coming.

Indurain's 1991 victory certainly did not come out of the blue. Anybody
who had watched him tow Delgado's sorry ass in the mountains in 1990
knew that Indurain had the goods. He had beeen marked for several years
already as the big Spanish hope. In fact, the only question mark
regarding him was whether he would manage to affirm himself as the
leader of his team or stay too long in Delgado's shadow.

I would say that over the last 20 years the only Tour winner to come
"out of the blue" was Armstrong 1999. All the other ones, including
Riis 1996, were listed at least among the outsiders at the beginning of
the first Tour they won.

jyh.

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Davey said:

Tim Lines said:

Davey said:

Norm Tuttle <[email hidden]> writes:
Yeah. Dog Sled Races on the Yukon River would be more fun than the
Tour
has been so far.

THAT'S PURE GENIUS! Who else could think of having dog sled races on
the Yukon River in July, when the ice is gone? That would be
compelling television, wouldn't it? Would we have rescue crews
standing by or would it be kind of a "Survivor" thing?

Davey scratches his head, wondering if he said anything about July

You didn't. It was just more fun that way.

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From: "Rico X. Partay"

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That's "misunderestimate." (He's from Texas.)

George Bush isn't from Texas. Prep school, university-educated in the East.
This might indicate some degree of affectation. Or maybe not.

You've never heard Armstrong slaughter the language per your example. --TP

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Chris said:

Look at Indurain during the 1990 (the one previous to his first win)

Tour.

Quoted message said:

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Very few riders win a Tour immediately after placing on the podium. Greg
Lemond and Jan Ullrich did, but those are the 2 exceptions. More often

than

Quoted message said:

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not, the first Tour win comes from seemingly out of the blue and then
afterwards everyone claims to have seen it coming.

Indurain's 1991 victory certainly did not come out of the blue. Anybody
who had watched him tow Delgado's sorry ass in the mountains in 1990
knew that Indurain had the goods. He had beeen marked for several years
already as the big Spanish hope. In fact, the only question mark
regarding him was whether he would manage to affirm himself as the
leader of his team or stay too long in Delgado's shadow.

I remember watching that Tour (of course, only on the weekend summaries back
then) and thinking I was glad for LeMond's sake that Indurain spent most of
the race working for Delgado instead of for himself. Had Indurain stayed
with the break to St Etienne, the race might have been different and
*Indurain* might have been the first 6-time winner in 1995.