Ewoud Dronkert said:Jet said:Boyd Speerschneider said:"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Come on Lance, be a man and face up to the consequences of your actions
> toward Simeoni.
Yeah... how dare LA actually *race* Simeoni!!!
He must have a lot of nerve to want to race someone while in a bike race.
Right on Boyd. Have these people never heard of 'psyching' an opponent or
smack talking in a race.
Once more:
1) Simeoni testified against Dr. Ferrari, saying he prescribed him dope.
He acted against the code of the peloton. A traitor. Extra-ordinary
accusations require extra-ordinary proof. <g>
Quoted message said:2) Armstrong called Simeoni a liar.
Armstrong disputes this. <shrug>
Quoted message said:3) Simeoni sued Armstrong for defamation of character.
What a wussy!
Quoted message said:4) Simeoni gets chased down by Armstrong and team mates on all his
escape attempts during the TdF. Important supporter of Simeoni in this
childish affair: Paolo Bettini.
Childish. Ok.
Quoted message said:5) Italian justice are looking into possible 'intimidation of witness'
by Armstrong.
Just testosterone-based smack talk, imo. Has Lance actually -done-
anything.
I respect you highly ED, but I think this is all over-hyped, just boys
being boys, charged up and sometimes childish. I think the WADA needs to
get out of the drug testing biz and let that all be in the legal domain.
We're always gonna have doping. Make it less attractive within cycling,
sure, but let the cops handle it.
That's just my opinion. In fact some of my opinions on this are not
-strong- opinions.
Quoted message said:The defamation of character suit is merited in my opinion. Simeoni
testified against Ferrari under oath in normal court proceedings and
Armstrong shouldn't have said anything about it, especially considering
his own interests in the Ferrari trial. When he did, it was big news,
This is valid. But should we not separate someone just blurting out 'I'm
gonna kick your sorry ass', and someone saying "I'm going to destroy you in
every way and your cycling career too" and then having that person actually
-do- a destructive thing. As long as it's just guys smack talking leave it
alone. A says that to S on the phone, S says 'Fsk off, loser', and then A
does nothing else - doesn't start making calls behind the scenes, etc. I
really don't see LA as a person who would actually try to 'break someone',
like being Elvis of Austin with a texas mafia. Do you.
OTOH, I see the need for the law to protect those who threaten people using
the phone system and soforth.
Quoted message said:because everything he says or does is big news. His celebrity status
both in- and outside the cycling world gives his words weight. 99% Of
Americans and 50% of Europeans who previously had no opinion on Simeoni
or even knew who he was, now think he is a whining loser.
Good point.
Quoted message said:Intimidation of the witness, I don't know. As I said, I think it was
very childish of Armstrong and US Postal to act that way, and in
non-judicial terms it was definitely related to the Simeoni lawsuit, but
I can't see how it can be made to stick in court.
Exactly. It's just boys being boys at that moment.
Quoted message said:Except maybe if their
fellow escapees from that incident where Simeoni and Armstrong both went
back to the peloton, have testified/declared that they heard LA say
things to FS that (again) he shouldn't have said.
Nice post. Thought provoking. ;-)
jj
