Armstrong on Stage 10

Michael said:

After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
using the French to emphasize.

I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
going to listen to him.

M.

I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Colin Campbell said:

Michael said:

After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
using the French to emphasize.

I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
going to listen to him.

M.

I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

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After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
using the French to emphasize.

I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
going to listen to him.

M.

I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

As opposed to his English? I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I think he
actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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Michael said:

After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
using the French to emphasize.

I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
going to listen to him.

M.

I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

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I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

You are correct. My bad.

Mike

On 07/14/2004 12:57 AM, in article
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> After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
> after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
> lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
> using the French to emphasize.
>
> I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
> going to listen to him.
>
> M.
>
>
>
I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

As opposed to his English? I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I think he
actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

I think he's only really hemming and hawing and searching for words when
being interviewed right after a stage ...

He seems much more articulate during press conferences and in one-on-one
interviews (pre-Tour or post-Tour TV appearances, for example).

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> After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
> after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
> lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
> using the French to emphasize.
>
> I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
> going to listen to him.
>
> M.
>
>
>
I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

As opposed to his English?

No joke.

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I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I think

he

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actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

How is that? He becomes one of the top athlete and is therefore not expected
to put any value on precise or accurate communication? OK, he will never
worry about making a living (I suppose) but what is he going to do after his
cycling career is over? Maybe he will just live off of his substantial
fortune running about chasing women and looking for the next great micro
brewery. The chicks don't care a fig about his language skills and neither
do his beer buddies, so what the hell do I know?

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--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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Colin Campbell said:

Michael wrote:

> After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
> after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
> lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
> using the French to emphasize.
>
> I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
> going to listen to him.
>
> M.
>
>
>
I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

Lance's French isn't the greatest.

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I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

You are correct. My bad.

Does anyone else see the irony?

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>> After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
>> after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
>> lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
>> using the French to emphasize.
>>
>> I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
>> going to listen to him.
>>
>> M.
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>>
>>
> I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.
Lance's French isn't the greatest.

As opposed to his English?

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No joke.

Betcha his Texin(sic) iz gud.

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I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I think

he

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actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

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How is that? He becomes one of the top athlete and is therefore not expected
to put any value on precise or accurate communication?

Maybe he was cheering on the architectural Tour of houses?

OK, he will never

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worry about making a living (I suppose) but what is he going to do after his
cycling career is over? Maybe he will just live off of his substantial
fortune running about chasing women and looking for the next great micro
brewery. The chicks don't care a fig about his language skills and neither
do his beer buddies, so what the hell do I know?

And who needs language skills when their mouth is full...

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Colin Campbell wrote:
> Michael wrote:
>
>> After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
>> after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
>> lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
>> using the French to emphasize.
>>
>> I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
>> going to listen to him.
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>>
> I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.
Lance's French isn't the greatest.

Chris said:

How is that? He becomes one of the top athlete and is therefore not expected
to put any value on precise or accurate communication? OK, he will never
worry about making a living (I suppose) but what is he going to do after his
cycling career is over?

So he's that much worse than the English football players, U.S.
basketball players, et al? Was anyone overly impressed by Sean Kelly's
interviews right after he got off the bike? I can remember some Brits,
some Irish and some U.S. fans trying to come to a consensus on what
exactly he spoke.

And half the amateurs only speak [censored] right after getting off their
bike. Perspective and coherency takes hold after cooling off.

Think of it as a challenge. He's the one right off his bike, still
thinking of the day's race and full of testosterone. You're the one
that has to put the pieces together. I know you can do it.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
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I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

You are correct. My bad.

Does anyone else see the irony?

Yeah.

M.

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> I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.
Lance's French isn't the greatest.

As opposed to his English?

No joke.

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I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I think

he

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actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

How is that? He becomes one of the top athlete and is therefore not expected
to put any value on precise or accurate communication? OK, he will never
worry about making a living (I suppose) but what is he going to do after his
cycling career is over? Maybe he will just live off of his substantial
fortune running about chasing women and looking for the next great micro
brewery. The chicks don't care a fig about his language skills and neither
do his beer buddies, so what the hell do I know?

_ In either French or English, he speaks much better off the cuff
than our current President. Articulate speech is not a prerequisite for
success in the USA. Many people consider it a handicap.... Hell,
he sounds better than Arnold, he could be Governor a year after
retiring.

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As opposed to his English? I'm frequently amused when watching French
coverage and they're interviewing Armstrong, in French, and thinking
that
maybe they'll do the interview in English instead (with a translator)
because of his stumbling. As if he's any different in English! I
think he
actually has a decent command of French; his stumbling speech is just
the
way he is. He always seems to be hemming & hawing & searching for
words.
Most would suggest his cycling skills make up for it though.

YES I totally agree - but now I am noticing Hamilton speaking the same
way - almost like English is there 2nd language - just open your mouth
and say the words - You aren't Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
- Seriously, Lance too - people are really not hanging on your every
word - your just a cyclist

Colin Campbell said:

Michael said:

After stage 9, Armstrong said that if the peloton goes
after stage 10 with the same intensity as stage 9, a
lot of the riders would be dropped -- "allez maison,"
using the French to emphasize.

I wonder if the riders -- especially the youner riders -- are
going to listen to him.

M.

I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

It should be "allez à la maison" -- the French frequently abbreviate
their sentences. "Allez maison" could be the expression used in the
peloton.

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In either French or English, he speaks
much better off the cuff than our current
President.

So would my dog, if I had one.

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Articulate speech is not a prerequisite for
success in the USA. Many people consider it
a handicap.... Hell, he sounds better than
Arnold [;] he could be Governor a year after
retiring.

Can't you see Sheryl campaigning for him?! (But might there be
too much reefer, etc., in her past? Might not be a liability in
CA, but in TX...?)

benwood said:

It should be "allez à la maison" -- the French frequently abbreviate
their sentences. "Allez maison" could be the expression used in the
peloton.

More likely to have been " a les maisons", plural since more than one
rider would be involved, unless they share a la Zoolander.

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benwood said:

It should be "allez à la maison" -- the French frequently abbreviate
their sentences. "Allez maison" could be the expression used in the
peloton.

More likely to have been " a les maisons", plural since more than one
rider would be involved, unless they share a la Zoolander.

PLEASE ! Bad enough the average rbr post is illiterate in English, but five
variants (all wrong) in French is hard to bear.

Stick to weeding typos !

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Bonne route,

Sandy
Paris FR

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benwood said:

It should be "allez à la maison" -- the French frequently abbreviate
their sentences. "Allez maison" could be the expression used in the
peloton.

More likely to have been " a les maisons", plural since more than one
rider would be involved, unless they share a la Zoolander.

I learned in French II that "à les" is not correct French; it is shortened
to "aux," just as "à le" is shortened to "au."

-Sonarrat.

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I thought it was "a la maison" -- to the house.

yes, it s "a la maison"

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It should be "allez à la maison"

Yes, actually it is aller à la maison :
" Les cyclistes fatigues vont aller à la maison"
Tired riders will go home

-- the French frequently abbreviate

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their sentences. "Allez maison" could be the expression used in the
peloton.

" Allez maison" does not mean anything unless you want to cheer a rider called
maison, like you would do Allez Lance, or Allez Iban...

"Allez à la maison" is an instruction given: Kids, allez a la maison and wait
for me.

What Lance was saying is that if the race kept this strong tempo, lots of
riders are going to go "à la maison" soon