Armstrong on/off/on again for the Tour
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ah! the idiot's response. Insult the person asking the question instead of saying that you don't know. It's okay, go back to your mom's house where someone loves you.leerobbs said:
Ok, time to wade head first into this ****storm. It is first worth noting that I am incredibly cynical about well, most things and I apply this to Armstrongs return to the racing circuit. For him it might be about the publicity for himself. But if you look at the facts he spends a huge amount of his time doing publicity for cancer, him racing in the Tour de France will increase publicity for his charity work etc etc. He's probably only doing it to nurse that massive ego he possesses but in the long run other people benefit so in the long run everything is peachy.
Lance's return is more hurting cycling at the moment. Of course there is some positive effects like put in front his doping past and some publicity for Giro and Tour Under Down.
About the fight against cancer I am not sure that it's needed. I think that Lance could do better without racing especially in US. In Europe his image is low, even very low in Germany and France, and every european country has charismatic people able to support a such message.
And as we have seen Lance has not prepared his alleged "fight against cancer" mission. If he was serious, he (or his LAF) would have contacted the french "Ligue against cancer) before a such announcement.
About the fight against cancer I am not sure that it's needed. I think that Lance could do better without racing especially in US. In Europe his image is low, even very low in Germany and France, and every european country has charismatic people able to support a such message.
And as we have seen Lance has not prepared his alleged "fight against cancer" mission. If he was serious, he (or his LAF) would have contacted the french "Ligue against cancer) before a such announcement.
I have pondered this a fair bit recently. I have been undecided for sometime but I am officially erring on the side of Lance's comeback as a massive joke, redundant to the sustainable growth of the sport and a pure exercise in self promotion for personal financial gain. It is a distastefully presumptuous position to take but I prefer it to a position of benign passive indifference.earth_dweller said:
There is very real short term gain here in Australia for the Tour Down Under. However at the end of the day Lance 'Lasseter's Reef'' Armstrong represents a fool's gold in the Australian context. We need organic long term growth in the sport. Lance Armstrong cannot be a meaningful figure to professional road cycling moving forward. His era must be respected (to a degree) yet dutifully sidelined as a period of the sport where governance was inept (the issue still to be resolved) and corruption unbridled.
I think it is accurate to question what if anything the LAF can offer the global fight to cure cancer. The sport needs to close the door on this individual. The sport can no longer be a conduit to facilitate the growth of his personal wealth, power and influence. In time and under a different context there may be scope to welcome him back into the fold as a former champion of the sport but we now must close rank around those who wish to ride clean and have exemplary records.
As consumers all we have is the choice of who we support and how we go about it. Our willingness to welcome Lance Armstrong back into the fold is to justify and validate his past. Everyone who cares about the sport can immediately see through the internal doping data platforms. His willingness to post blood data is meaningless. These internal platforms merely exist to allow DS to pull or place riders into events with relative safety in relation to in-competition doping controls. It gives internal certainty to a degree and is likely more relevent to appeasing/attracting sponsorship dollars.
I have a lot of respect for the way the French and Germans have conducted themselves at the organisational levels in 2008. In contrast I have very little time for the owners of the Giro and absolutely no respect or interest at this point in time for any rider, corporation or event pertaining to professional road cycling coming from Spain.
Lance Armstrong would do well to evolve as a person and move on to the next stage of his life. He raped the sport of professional road cycling. No more. A polite cold shoulder is the correct response to a Lance Armstrong comeback. Let it be so.
What "provable doping past?" My daughter lives in Europe. She tells me that he has a excellent image............Besides...The French are the cancer of Europe.I did think it was rather silly of Lance chasing that one little twin around. But I guess being in France for 28 days every July touring the country of France, gave Lance some ideas.poulidor said:
Lance.... "if the French can chase little boys , why can"t I go home and chase little girls?"
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