Armstrong On Ballester--Truth or Defamation?

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Ballester had to leave L'Equipe due to unethical
behaviour. He seems a desperate kind of guy."

Armstrong a quoted today by ProCycling. Does anyone know
the facts surrounding Ballester"s leaving L'Equipe?

Does Lance know that Ballester is a Prix Blondin winner.
All these prize winning hacks after his ass. Amazing!
Pierre Ballester : Pierre Ballester, 44 ans est journaliste
de sport depuis 1981. Correspondant permanent à Londres de
l'Agence France-Presse (1985-1987), reporter au quotidien
Le Sport (1988), grand reprter à L'Equipe, rubrique
cyclisme et boxe (1989-2001). De 1982 à 1999, ce Prix
Blondin du Tour (1994) a couvert dix Tours de France. Après
1998, il a essentiellement enquêté sur les affaires de
dopage dans le vélo

English Translation:

Pierre Ballester: Pierre Ballester, 44 years old is a sports
journalist since 1981. Permanent correspondent in London of
the French Press Agency(1985-1987); transferred to the daily
newspaper Le Sport (1988); at-large reporter with L'Equipe,
covering cycling and boxing (1989-2001). From 1982 to 1999,
this "Race Acrobat of the Tour"(1994) covered ten Tours de
France. After 1998, he primarily inquired into the business
of doping in bicycle racing.

English? Sort of. Beware the electronic translation.

So folks, what are the facts of Ballester's leaving
L'Equipe. Is it like Lance says?

"Kris Tilford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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English Translation:

Pierre Ballester: Pierre Ballester, 44 years old is a
sports journalist

since

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1981. Permanent correspondent in London of the
French Press

Agency(1985-1987);

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transferred to the daily newspaper Le Sport (1988); at-
large reporter with L'Equipe, covering cycling and boxing
(1989-2001). From 1982 to 1999,

this

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"Race Acrobat of the Tour"(1994) covered ten Tours de
France. After 1998,

he

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primarily inquired into the business of doping in
bicycle racing.

B. Lafferty said:

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iH-
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Quoted message said:

"Ballester had to leave L'Equipe due to unethical
behaviour. He seems a desperate kind of guy."

Armstrong a quoted today by ProCycling. Does anyone know
the facts surrounding Ballester"s leaving L'Equipe?

Does Lance know that Ballester is a Prix Blondin winner.
All these prize winning hacks after his ass. Amazing!
Pierre Ballester : Pierre Ballester, 44 ans est
journaliste de sport depuis 1981. Correspondant permanent
à Londres de l'Agence France-Presse (1985-1987), reporter
au quotidien Le Sport (1988), grand reprter à L'Equipe,
rubrique cyclisme et boxe (1989-2001). De 1982 à 1999, ce
Prix Blondin du Tour (1994) a couvert dix Tours de France.
Après 1998, il a essentiellement enquêté sur les affaires
de dopage dans le vélo

And we in the USA are free of inventive journalists who have
won prizes, including Pulitzers...

Let's just watch how this goes, eh?

"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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B. Lafferty said:

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:-
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Quoted message said:

"Ballester had to leave L'Equipe due to unethical
behaviour. He seems a desperate kind of guy."

Armstrong a quoted today by ProCycling. Does anyone know
the facts surrounding Ballester"s leaving L'Equipe?

Does Lance know that Ballester is a Prix Blondin winner.
All these

prize

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winning hacks after his ass. Amazing! Pierre Ballester :
Pierre Ballester, 44 ans est journaliste de sport depuis

1981.

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Correspondant permanent à Londres de l'Agence France-
Presse (1985-1987), reporter au quotidien Le Sport
(1988), grand reprter à L'Equipe,

rubrique

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cyclisme et boxe (1989-2001). De 1982 à 1999, ce Prix
Blondin du Tour

(1994)

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a couvert dix Tours de France. Après 1998, il a
essentiellement enquêté

sur

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les affaires de dopage dans le vélo

And we in the USA are free of inventive journalists who
have won prizes, including Pulitzers...

Let's just watch how this goes, eh?

Armstrong's allegation is quite specific--Ballester was
forced to leave L'Equipe for uinethical behavior. True or
false? Again, anyone have the facts?

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Armstrong's allegation is quite specific--Ballester was
forced to leave L'Equipe for uinethical behavior. True or
false? Again, anyone have the facts?

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Although 'unethical behaviour' is 'unethical behaviour', it
does not automatically pertain to his writing. If true, it
could range from stealing office supplies to viewing [censored] on
the company computer.

Carl Sundquist said:

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Armstrong's allegation is quite specific--Ballester was
forced to leave L'Equipe for uinethical behavior. True or
false? Again, anyone have the facts?

Although 'unethical behaviour' is 'unethical behaviour',
it does not automatically pertain to his writing. If true,
it could range from stealing office supplies to viewing
[censored] on the company computer.

Or they caught him surfing the web all day instead of
doing his work.

Richard Adams said:

Carl Sundquist said:

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Armstrong's allegation is quite specific--Ballester was
forced to leave L'Equipe for uinethical behavior. True
or false? Again, anyone have the facts?

Quoted message said:

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Although 'unethical behaviour' is 'unethical behaviour',
it does not automatically pertain to his writing. If
true, it could range from stealing office supplies to
viewing [censored] on the company computer.

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Or they caught him surfing the web all day instead of
doing his work.

Or spending all day posting messages to Usenet under the nom
de guerre "Brian Lafferty."

"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Richard Adams said:

Carl Sundquist said:

"B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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>Armstrong's allegation is quite specific--Ballester
>was forced to

leave

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>L'Equipe for uinethical behavior. True or false?
>Again, anyone have

the

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>facts?

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Although 'unethical behaviour' is 'unethical
behaviour', it does not automatically pertain to his
writing. If true, it could range from

stealing

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office supplies to viewing [censored] on the company
computer.

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Or they caught him surfing the web all day instead of
doing his work.

Or spending all day posting messages to Usenet under the
nom de guerre "Brian Lafferty."

I'm glad someone *finally* figured it out.

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Or spending all day posting messages to Usenet under the nom
de guerre "Brian Lafferty."

I have been reading this forum (rec.bicycle.racing) for quite some time now and I am amazed at how you all seem to enjoy throwing insults at Mr Laffery.

Why? From what I can see he reports the facts. It is rather amusing to follow the recent breaking story regarding David Millar. Initially everyone seemed to suggest it was not possible the Scott had take performance enhancing drugs. Low and behold the truth comes out.

In regards to Armstrong, who knows? But from reading the excerpts (and I stress that word), the recent publication of LA confidential seems to suggest highly that LA does dope. You can understands Walsh's reason to publish such a book and you can also understand Armstrong's reasons to silence the facts, should they be true. One of them is not telling the truth.

If I were Lance and not guilty of such crimes I would just shut up and let people talk, after all if he nothing to conceal why not just let it all wash over him? I can understand why Lance would want to fight on defamation grounds, however, he just needs to keep cool and trust that the truth will come out.

Personally, I don't think Armstrong is all he claims to be. I rememmber reading (in it's not about the bike) about his relationship with Kir and how they were deeply in love and how his personal moto is 'NEVER QUIT', yet he gives up on the marriage and we the public don't get to know why!? Sure, it is his personal business, however, he decided to share his personal life with us when he wrote his book. Lance's wants the journalist to report true facts and we want lance to report the truth not just write books that make the average reader think - 'lance, your great'.

Lance would do well to imitate Gary Lineker. A great sportsmans and such a nice guy with it. Suffered his fair share of trouble too (His child had cancer). Anyone in the UK will know Lineker well.

Just my 2cents.

I forgot to add...

In reference to LA confidential; Has any journalist managed to obtain an interview with Kathy Lemond since the publication?

While I understand that o'reilly and lance's former team mate of motorola may not be the best of sources for one reason or another, somehow the testimony of Kathy Lemond would hold some weight in my book. Personally, I don't think Greg would have anything to gain by seeing Armstrong fall. Greg is never going to match the Indurians or Merckx of this world and so if Lance were to lose 'status' then Lemond would never be amoung the 'top' rankings...

unless, it is of course becoming the No.1 American hero, however, i really don't think Greg could careless about that.

CyclingIssues said:

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Or spending all day posting messages to Usenet under
the nom de guerre "Brian Lafferty."

I have been reading this forum (rec.bicycle.racing) for
quite some time now and I am amazed at how you all seem to
enjoy throwing insults at Mr Laffery.

This is rec.bicycles.racing.free.insults, I'll have the
group secrtary add your name to the list. We should get
around to you in a couple days. Terrific backlog, you know,
what with the TdF starting tomorrow and people coming out of
the woodwork.

CyclingIssues said:

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Or spending all day posting messages to Usenet under
the nom de guerre "Brian Lafferty."

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I have been reading this forum (rec.bicycle.racing) for
quite some time now and I am amazed at how you all seem to
enjoy throwing insults at Mr Laffery.

We toss insults at Lafferty because he's a bit of a tool.

You're a bigger tool, though.

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Why? From what I can see he reports the facts.

AFAIK, Mr. Lafferty, Esq. would agree that he is not a
reporter. That is Mr. Walsh's job.

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If I were Lance and not guilty of such crimes I would just
shut up and let people talk, after all if he nothing to
conceal why not just let it all wash over him?

Yeah, sure you would.

Then everybody would seize on your lack of denial and
outrage as a tacit admission of guilt.

So do you deny that you are a tool?