Armstrong could end the doping speculation today

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Originally posted by Hold My Beer An
All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample
every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point
in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
potential product that anyone suggests that he might be
taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any samples currently--blood or urine.

On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article [email hidden], "hold my

beer and watch this... said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
product that anyone suggests that he might be taking
become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are picked
after each stage to submit a sample. "They" already have
PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

"Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
[email hidden], "hold

my

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beer and watch this... said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of

the

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tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
future (e.g., when

more

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sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
anyone suggests that

he

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might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
the other

contenders to

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do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs on eBay.

"Charlie C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]>
wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing
at any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
product that anyone suggests that he might be
taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are
picked after each stage to submit a sample. "They" already
have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_ on
file.

Steve said:

On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
[email hidden], "hold my beer and watch this..."

Quoted message said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

What do they call the tie-breaker in a beauty contest again?
Hint: Ask [censored] Cheney.

"gntlmn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hold My Beer An said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day

of

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the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
potential product that anyone suggests that he might
be taking become available). Then (if he really was
clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any
samples currently-- blood or urine.

IIRC the Tour de France organization now stores the blood
samples from the in competition tests that they perform.

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"gntlmn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hold My Beer An said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day

of

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the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
future (e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever
potential product that anyone suggests that he might
be taking become available). Then (if he really was
clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any
samples currently-- blood or urine.

Felcia Ballanger Former World/Olympic champion, retired
and now back riding again, has had samples of her blood
and urine from her previous racing days frozen for just
this reason

Dave

Carl Sundquist said:

"Charlie C." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]>
wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing
at any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential
product that anyone suggests that he might be
taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
the other contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a
stage he has to submit a sample and random riders are
picked after each stage to submit a sample. "They"
already have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

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No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_
on file.

No, if anything they have plenty of spectra from LANCE's
urine on file. I don't think testing sensitivity is the
issue so much as knowing what to look for.

Bob Schwartz [email hidden]

Who sure as hell wouldn't stockpile urine around HIS lab.

"L G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >

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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day

of

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the

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tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the
future (e.g., when

more

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sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
anyone suggests

that

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he

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might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all
the other

contenders to

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do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs
on eBay.

Do you think they would go for more than his junior high
school love note went for?

Steve said:

On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article 5ZGdndisrqpPBn3dRVn-
[email hidden], "hold my beer and watch this..."

Quoted message said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that
he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

They could certainly learn from the pros on rbr, where
there's a pissing contest always going on.

"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine
sample every day of the tour, to be frozen for testing at
any point in the future (e.g., when more sensitive tests
for whatever potential product

...provided that product was detectable in urine...

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that anyone suggests that he might be taking become
available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the
other contenders to do the same.

Chew on this: How wrong is the world when the right answer
is frozen urine?

And finally, should it come to that, and the cyclists are
found clean, the instigators, antagonists, and prosecutors
should be made to eat a wee-wee snow cone.

Roland