Armstrong could end the doping speculation today

Hold My Beer An said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of
the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g.,
when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone
suggests that he might be taking become available).
Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any samples currently--
blood or urine.

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"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day
of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
anyone suggests that he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a stage he has to
submit a sample and random riders are picked after each stage to submit a
sample. "They" already have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

"Steve" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article [email hidden], "hold

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beer and watch this... said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of

the

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tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when

more

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sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that

he

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might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other

contenders to

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do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs on eBay.

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of the
tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when more
sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that he
might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

"Charlie C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day
of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
anyone suggests that he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a stage he has to
submit a sample and random riders are picked after each stage to submit a
sample. "They" already have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_ on file.

Steve said:

On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article [email hidden], "hold my

beer and watch this... said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of the
tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when more
sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that he
might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

What do they call the tie-breaker in a beauty contest again?
Hint: Ask [censored] Cheney.

"gntlmn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hold My Beer An said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day

of

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the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g.,
when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone
suggests that he might be taking become available).
Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any samples currently--
blood or urine.

IIRC the Tour de France organization now stores the blood samples from the
in competition tests that they perform.

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"gntlmn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hold My Beer An said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day

of

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the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g.,
when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone
suggests that he might be taking become available).
Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Sounds like a great idea. I wonder if they keep any samples currently--
blood or urine.

Felcia Ballanger Former World/Olympic champion, retired and now back riding
again, has had samples of her blood and urine from her previous racing days
frozen for just this reason

Dave

Carl Sundquist said:

"Charlie C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in
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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day
of the tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future
(e.g., when more sensitive tests for whatever potential product that
anyone suggests that he might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other
contenders to do the same.

Actually he sort of already has to do this. If he wins a stage he has to
submit a sample and random riders are picked after each stage to submit a
sample. "They" already have PLENTY of Lance's blood on file.

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No, if anything, they have plenty of LANCE's _urine_ on file.

No, if anything they have plenty of spectra from LANCE's urine on
file. I don't think testing sensitivity is the issue so much as
knowing what to look for.

Bob Schwartz
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Who sure as hell wouldn't stockpile urine around HIS lab.

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tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when

more

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sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone suggests

that

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might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other

contenders to

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do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

LA could always sell the samples later as souvenirs on eBay.

Do you think they would go for more than his junior high school love note
went for?

Steve said:

On 6/28/04 4:32 PM, in article [email hidden], "hold my

beer and watch this... said:

All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of the
tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when more
sensitive tests for whatever potential product that anyone suggests that he
might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

That's it!!

A [censored] contest!!

They could certainly learn from the pros on rbr, where there's a pissing
contest always going on.

"hold my beer and watch this..." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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All that he'd have to do is offer to provide a urine sample every day of the
tour, to be frozen for testing at any point in the future (e.g., when more
sensitive tests for whatever potential product

....provided that product was detectable in urine...

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that anyone suggests that he
might be taking become available).

Then (if he really was clean) he could challenge all the other contenders to
do the same.

Chew on this: How wrong is the world when the right answer is frozen
urine?

And finally, should it come to that, and the cyclists are found clean,
the instigators, antagonists, and prosecutors should be made to eat a
wee-wee snow cone.

Roland