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  1. What the heck ever happened to Lance and the World Hour Record? I bet he won't try it unless he is
    very confident of setting a new record, but I have heard absolutely nothing about any plans at all.

  2. Nick Burns said:

    What the heck ever happened to Lance and the World Hour Record? I bet he won't try it unless he is
    very confident of setting a new record, but I have heard absolutely nothing about any plans at all.

    Maybe he's in court too often these days to train.

  3. Lance never said he was interested in the Hour. As a matter of fact as long as one must use a UCi
    compliant frame, no one is going to break Boardman's record for a very very long time.

    Anyway, if Lance does decide to try for the Hour record, then he will do so only after his #6 win in
    Paris. There is no money and nothing else except a line in a record book to ride 60 minutes as fast
    as one can. Plus it also means training on a track and I do not know that Lance has any track
    experience to speak of as did Boardman and the other Europeans at some point in their careers.

    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What the heck ever happened to Lance and the World Hour Record? I bet he won't try it unless he is
    very confident of setting a new record, but I


    have

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    heard absolutely nothing about any plans at all.

  4. "Dan O'Brasky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Lance never said he was interested in the Hour. As a matter of fact as


    long

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    as one must use a UCi compliant frame, no one is going to break Boardman's record for a very very
    long time.

    Dumbass -

    They have 2 hour records now. One for UCI compliant, the other isn't. You haven't been paying
    attention.

  5. "Dan O'Brasky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Lance never said he was interested in the Hour.

    Actually, he stated one time that "3600 seconds was on his time", and he's answered questions in
    interviews since in which he indicated that it was being discussed.

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    As a matter of fact as long as one must use a UCi compliant frame, no one is going to break
    Boardman's record for a very very long time.

    I think Boardman's swan song "athlete's record" is well within reach. Boardman, after all, was only
    producing about 90% of the power he maintained in setting his ultimate hour record. Now *that* is
    one that I think would have stood for a very, very long time, even if the UCI hadn't changed the
    rules such that you can no longer use aerobars (or other aero aids - but the position, and to a
    lesser extent the wheels, are more important than the frame). In fact, I posted here a long time ago
    stating that Armstrong couldn't break it, and nothing he's done since has changed my mind.

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    Anyway, if Lance does decide to try for the Hour record, then he will do


    so

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    only after his #6 win in Paris. There is no money and nothing else except


    a

    Quoted message said:

    line in a record book to ride 60 minutes as fast as one can. Plus it also means training on a
    track and I do not know that Lance has any track experience to speak of as did Boardman and the
    other Europeans at some


    point

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    in their careers.

    All of this is true. OTOH, Tony Rominger had no track experience when he went after the hour,
    so provided you're generating enough power the lack of track experience isn't an
    insurmontable obstacle.

    Andy Coggan

  6. "Andy Coggan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    All of this is true. OTOH, Tony Rominger had no track experience when he went after the hour, so
    provided you're generating enough power the lack of track experience isn't an insurmontable
    obstacle.

    Indurain didn't have track experience either.

  7. "Dan O'Brasky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Lance never said he was interested in the Hour. As a matter of fact as


    long

    Quoted message said:

    as one must use a UCi compliant frame, no one is going to break Boardman's record for a very very
    long time.

    He can pick which he wants to attempt. I assume he will go for the absolute record. The motivation
    comes from the extreme prestige of holding the record, especially when the holder is critisized for
    racing in too few races. An hour record would be a great answer to those critics. I believe that is
    exactly what drove Indurain to attempt the record, and his palmares was a bit more healthy than
    Lance's (although that depends on how you weight a Mig's Giros and early week long stage races vs.
    Lance's 2 minor classics and a WC Road vs. Mig's WC for ITT.

    Win or lose next year at the Tour, Lance should carry on to the Clasica San Sebastian. This course
    suits him more than ever (he won it when he weighed 12 kilos more than now). Then is he fails or
    passes on the hour attempt, he would have the absolute TDF record and a few nice classics. I would
    love to see him win at Lombardia. Maybe Lance could carry his form that long in to the year if it is
    his last. I am not entirely clear on why he stops in September but I assume it has a lot to do with
    keeping his successful year patterns as close as possible year to year.

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    Anyway, if Lance does decide to try for the Hour record, then he will do


    so

    Quoted message said:

    only after his #6 win in Paris. There is no money and nothing else except


    a

    Quoted message said:

    line in a record book to ride 60 minutes as fast as one can. Plus it also means training on a
    track and I do not know that Lance has any track experience to speak of as did Boardman and the
    other Europeans at some


    point

    Quoted message said:

    in their careers.

    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What the heck ever happened to Lance and the World Hour Record? I bet he won't try it unless he
    is very confident of setting a new record, but I


    have

    Quoted message said:

    heard absolutely nothing about any plans at all.


  8. Nick Burns said:

    "Dan O'Brasky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Lance never said he was interested in the Hour. As a matter of fact as long as one must use a UCi
    compliant frame, no one is going to break Boardman's record for a very very long time.

    He can pick which he wants to attempt. I assume he will go for the absolute record. The motivation
    comes from the extreme prestige of holding the record, especially when the holder is critisized
    for racing in too few races. An hour record would be a great answer to those critics.


    In what way? Instead of being a schmuck who didn't race enough, he'll be a fast schmuck that didn't
    race enough.

  9. "Kyle Legate" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Nick Burns said:

    "Dan O'Brasky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Lance never said he was interested in the Hour. As a matter of fact as long as one must use a
    UCi compliant frame, no one is going to break Boardman's record for a very very long time.

    He can pick which he wants to attempt. I assume he will go for the absolute record. The
    motivation comes from the extreme prestige of holding the record, especially when the holder is
    critisized for racing in too few races. An hour record would be a great answer to those critics.


    In what way? Instead of being a schmuck who didn't race enough, he'll be a fast schmuck that
    didn't race enough.

    I can't argue with that, but no doubt it will ease his bruised ego, which seems to be the most
    influential motivator for Lance.

    As a side note, I wonder if he divorce will allow him to extend his season later in the year? I know
    he won't mess with he pre-Tour preparation, but maybe part of the reason he quits early each year is
    from pressure to get back off the road to be a family man. I doubt it.

  10. "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3f68bfd1$0>

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    As a side note, I wonder if he divorce will allow him to extend his season later in the year? I
    know he won't mess with he pre-Tour preparation, but maybe part of the reason he quits early each
    year is from pressure to get back off the road to be a family man. I doubt it.

    If anything, it's going to shorten his season and will change his Tour preparation. His
    children will be residing full time in Texas, he'll be crossing the Ocean a number of times to
    be with them....

  11. "brian roth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Nick Burns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    As a side note, I wonder if he divorce will allow him to extend his


    season

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    later in the year? I know he won't mess with he pre-Tour preparation,


    but

    Quoted message said:
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    maybe part of the reason he quits early each year is from pressure to


    get

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    back off the road to be a family man. I doubt it.

    If anything, it's going to shorten his season and will change his Tour preparation. His children
    will be residing full time in Texas, he'll be crossing the Ocean a number of times to be with
    them....

    I thought of that too. I was thinking it could go either way and now that I have read a bit on how
    he is handling his visitation, I see that you are likely correct.

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