armstrong all doped up?

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He

also

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said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

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But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

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the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

Now THAT's conclusive.

psycholist said:

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He

also

Quoted message said:

said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

Quoted message said:

But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

Quoted message said:

the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

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psycholist said:

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration
day is a dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
and during competition, because it is not able to be
detected in drug controls. He

also

Quoted message said:

said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

Quoted message said:

But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

Quoted message said:

the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

You always run that risk with a non-Ess A Bagel bagel.

B. Lafferty said:

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psycholist said:

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
>armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration
>day is a dead giveaway.......
>
>"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
>and during competition, because it is not able to be
>detected in drug controls. He

also

>said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
>maximise its

effect.

>But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
>described

previously,

>the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "
>
>

Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

You always run that risk with a non-Ess A Bagel bagel.

Now you tell me. Actually, it was from a very decent
Brooklyn bagel place in Newkirk Plaza. Just don't
test me now for banned substances.

Steve

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the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

<SNIP>

"Mysterious dehydration day is a dead giveaway" What are you
talking about? It happened during one of the worst heat
waves in the countries history. If anything, it makes a case
for Jan being juiced.

-T

Tom Schulenburg said:

"Mysterious dehydration day is a dead giveaway" What are
you talking about? It happened during one of the worst
heat waves in the countries history. If anything, it makes
a case for Jan being juiced.

You just don't get it. They're all on something or other at
times. But don't worry, someone's working on it.

Tom Schulenburg said:

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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

<SNIP>

"Mysterious dehydration day is a dead giveaway" What are
you talking about? It happened during one of the worst
heat waves in the countries history. If anything, it makes
a case for Jan being juiced.

The logic is impeccable:

1. The Kelme riders were doping.
2. The Kelme riders claimed to be dehydrated, perhaps.
3. Lance Armstrong claimed to be dehydrated.

Therefore.....

QED.

Dan "pardon me while I get a drink of water" Connelly

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Tom Schulenburg said:

"Mysterious dehydration day is a dead giveaway" What are
you talking about? It happened during one of the worst
heat waves in the countries history. If anything, it
makes a case for Jan being juiced.

You just don't get it. They're all on something or other
at times. But

don't

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worry, someone's working on it.

You may be right - 80% of the riders are either clean, or on
the Juice, it doesn't really matter to me. My point was, how
can anyone say the "mysterious dehydration day " is
significant one way or another? Should we chalk up any
unexpected loss by Lance to "bad medication"?

-T

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B. Lafferty said:

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psycholist wrote:

>"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>
>>the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
>>armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious
>>dehydration day is a dead giveaway.......
>>
>>"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
>>and during competition, because it is not able to be
>>detected in drug controls.

He

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
>also
>
>
>>said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order
>>to maximise its
>
>effect.
>
>
>>But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
>>described
>
>previously,
>
>
>>the riders experienced negative reactions to the
>>drug. "
>>
>>
>
>
>Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

You always run that risk with a non-Ess A Bagel bagel.

Now you tell me. Actually, it was from a very decent
Brooklyn bagel place in Newkirk Plaza. Just don't test me
now for banned substances.

Steve

About ten years ago there was a NYC employee who had gone to
detox for heroin addiction and was placed on random testing
for several years. About two years in, he came up positive
for metabolites indicating a relapse to heroin use. He swore
he was clean and that he had an Ess A Bagel poppy seed bagel
the morning of the random test. Turns out the poppy seeds
probably did cause the positive result. He was reinstated
after signing a written agreement not to eat Ess A Bagel
poppy seed bagels. He stayed clean and made it through to
retirement in the mid-1990s.

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the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice....

So you really think a cancer survivor would take HGH?

George

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psycholist said:

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration
day is a dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
and during competition, because it is not able to be
detected in drug controls. He

also

Quoted message said:

said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

Quoted message said:

But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

Quoted message said:

the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

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Also, could it have had something to do with Europe having
one of their warmest summer's ever last year during the Tour
de France? Now that is actually something that happened. I
seem to remember that during the "dehydration episode" that
it was somewhere near 100º that day?? Sounds like that might
lead to some dehydration during a full out effort.

Tom

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psycholist said:

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
>armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious
>dehydration day is a dead giveaway.......
>
>"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
>and during competition, because it is not able to be
>detected in drug controls.

He

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

also

>said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order
>to maximise its

effect.

>But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
>described

previously,

>the riders experienced negative reactions to the
>drug. "
>
>

Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

Quoted message said:

Also, could it have had something to do with Europe
having one of their warmest summer's ever last year
during the Tour de France? Now that is actually something
that happened. I seem to remember that during the
"dehydration episode" that it was somewhere near 100º
that day?? Sounds like that might lead to some
dehydration during a full out effort.

And Armstrong allegedly lost something like 14%(?) of
his body weight, walked away (not to hospital) and raced
the next day.

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Quoted message said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
armstrong is on the juice....

So you really think a cancer survivor would take HGH?

George

Now there's a logical argument for cleanliness.

If you think Lance is doping, what are the odds that
Ulrich is as well? You know very well that he'll take
recreational drugs (busted). Why not athletic enhancers as
well? Why all of this on Lance and you never hear anything
about Jan Ulrich?

JTN said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He also said that it is commonly taken
with insulin in order to maximise its effect. But
sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he described
previously, the riders experienced negative reactions to
the drug. "

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This just another case of trying to prove a negative. Saying something
does not make a person guilty........🙁((

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the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He also said that it is commonly taken
with insulin in order to maximise its effect. But
sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described previously, the riders experienced negative
reactions to the drug. "

Jan is on Brats and strudel. If he were juicing he'd beat
Armstrong with one leg. ;-)

BtW, does the Lance not use recreational drugs, other than
Shiner Bs?

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If you think Lance is doping, what are the odds that
Ulrich is as well? You know very well that he'll take
recreational drugs (busted). Why not athletic enhancers as
well? Why all of this on Lance and you never hear anything
about Jan Ulrich?

JTN said:

the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He

also

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

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B. Lafferty said:

"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote
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B. Lafferty said:

"Steven Bornfeld" <[email hidden]> wrote
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>psycholist wrote:
>
>
>>"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>>"]news:[email hidden]...
>>
>>
>>
>>>the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
>>>armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious
>>>dehydration day is a dead giveaway.......
>>>
>>>"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training
>>>and during competition, because it is not able to be
>>>detected in drug controls.
>>

He

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>also
>>
>>
>>
>>>said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order
>>>to maximise its
>>
>>effect.
>>
>>
>>
>>>But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
>>>described
>>
>>previously,
>>
>>
>>
>>>the riders experienced negative reactions to the
>>>drug. "
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Now THAT's conclusive.
>
>I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.
>
>Steve

You always run that risk with a non-Ess A Bagel bagel.

Now you tell me. Actually, it was from a very decent
Brooklyn bagel place in Newkirk Plaza. Just don't test me
now for banned substances.

Steve

About ten years ago there was a NYC employee who had gone
to detox for heroin addiction and was placed on random
testing for several years. About two years in, he came up
positive for metabolites indicating a relapse to heroin
use. He swore he was clean and that he had an Ess A Bagel
poppy seed bagel the morning of the random test. Turns out
the poppy seeds probably did cause the positive result. He
was reinstated after signing a written agreement not to
eat Ess A Bagel poppy seed bagels. He stayed clean and
made it through to retirement in the mid-1990s.

I'd heard that poppy seeds can get you a positive
drug test. Didn't know it was Ess A Bagel, though.

Steve

"JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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the more i read and hear, the more im convinced armstrong
is on the juice.... the mysterious dehydration day is a
dead giveaway.......

"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during training and
during competition, because it is not able to be detected
in drug controls. He

also

Quoted message said:

said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order to
maximise its

effect.

Quoted message said:

But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that he
described

previously,

Quoted message said:

the riders experienced negative reactions to the drug. "

How many tests does the guy have to pass before this
nonsense stops? Geez.....

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psycholist wrote:
> "JTN" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>>the more i read and hear, the more im convinced
>>armstrong is on the juice.... the mysterious
>>dehydration day is a dead giveaway.......
>>
>>"Manzano said that HGH could be taken during
>>training and during competition, because it is not
>>able to be detected in drug controls.

He

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> also
>
>>said that it is commonly taken with insulin in order
>>to maximise its
>
> effect.
>
>>But sometimes, as with the blood transfusions that
>>he described
>
> previously,
>
>>the riders experienced negative reactions to the
>>drug. "
>>
>>
>
>
> Now THAT's conclusive.

I had a negative reaction to breakfast this morning.

Steve

>
>

Also, could it have had something to do with Europe
having one of their warmest summer's ever last year
during the Tour de France? Now that is actually
something that happened. I seem to remember that during
the "dehydration episode" that it was somewhere near
100º that day?? Sounds like that might lead to some
dehydration during a full out effort.

And Armstrong allegedly lost something like 14%(?) of his
body weight, walked away (not to hospital) and raced the
next day.

And received IVs as soon as he got off the bike. He's just a
tough MF, that's all.