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  1. "Carla A-G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Canada is different tho, everyone wears it for everything up there.

    Everyone is going for the "Dew" look, its the new rage in style...

    I find it amusing how all of the armor companies are making money off of people trying to be stylish
    or just plain wimpy. If you don't want a booboo, don't ride mountain bikes because even with the
    Darth Vader look, you can still get jacked up. Just ask Shaun Bell.

    JD

  2. "P e t e F a g e r l i n" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    stamkis said:

    Also, I will need shin/leg-knee and arm protectors. Anybody feel all


    this

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    protection is needed and if so, which would you recommend.

    For XC riding, even technical XC riding, it's unneccesary, not to mention impractical.

    The stuff I wear for technical XC is

    Helmet (non fullface) Eyewear

    Full finger gloves

    Mouth guard

    Elbow/arm guards

    Knee/shin guards

    I wear a mouth piece for a couple reasons. I know some riders that have bionic front teeth from bike
    crashes. I ran into a mtber Dentist that had on a mouth guard. I wouldn't have notice the guard
    except for the fact that he had a bicycling decal on the front of his. A dentist can custom make one
    up that looks like those invisline braces so they are relatively comfortable and invisible.

    I wear the pads for several reasons. My flat pedals can get nasty on my shins. I got to go work on
    Mondays and it's the [censored] if you got a wound that takes a couple days to close and weeps all over
    your clothes. I also don't get [censored] at home about how dangerous mtbing is when I come home with cuts
    and bruise. Oh yeah, my pads are pretty much busted up.

  3. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "Carla A-G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    "Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Canada is different tho, everyone wears it for everything up there.

    Everyone is going for the "Dew" look, its the new rage in style...

    I find it amusing how all of the armor companies are making money off of people trying to be
    stylish or just plain wimpy. If you don't want a booboo, don't ride mountain bikes because even
    with the Darth Vader look, you can still get jacked up. Just ask Shaun Bell.

    JD

    True, but it can save your ass when you really need it. I did a major superman endo way up in the
    air at Mt. Creek and landed flat on my chest on a series of boulders. I cracked the chest protector
    and it knocked the wind out of me. Had it not been there, I would have cracked my ribs instead or
    caused more serious damage.

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  4. Thanks everyone for all your responses. Having read all the postings and thinking it over I'm going
    to get some protection. Not the Rockgardn or the Dainese, but something a bit less cumbersome.

    I skate almost every other day wearing elbow and knee pads, wrist guards, monitor and helmet. So, I
    don't think I'll be too uncomfortable with armor on. Then again, if it shifts while I'm riding I may
    change my mind.

    Here are some responses to some of your comments. (Caution wear gogles when reading... : -) )

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    think long and hard why you want this stuff. Surely if you aren't DH


    riding

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    you dont' need a full set up?


    ......

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    Penny

    Basically, looking for protection against spills. I'm not DH riding, but I do come across downhill
    stretches filled with roots and rocks. I think my bike has bailed me out more than my skill. It
    handles rather well.

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    For XC riding, even technical XC riding, it's unneccesary, not to mention impractical.

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    pete fagerlin

    You may be right. I may feel more secure wearing something. Then again..maybe not. I'm not the most
    skilled rider and still haven't practiced jumping off my bike yet. I'm thinking of buying a severely
    used bike to practice on. I spent too much money on mine to think of letting it fall to the ground
    repeatedly. I'm debating on whether this would be useful as well. May hurt myself just practicing,
    even if it's on the grass. I'm in my mid 40's, not a spring chicken 20 year old.

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    Canada is different tho, everyone wears it for everything up there.

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    Everyone is going for the "Dew" look, its the new rage in style...

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    - CA-G

    If "Dew" mean spaz look, then that's for me. Even though I ride on the road more often (except in
    the Fall), I never have worn any roadie styled clothing. I've had my share of stares from people
    looking at how I layered my clothes over the years.

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    Not sure if it's a style issue, the only Canadian riders I've met were the gals at the camp. they
    all had pads, the Yanks did not. ....

    Style is not important. I don't care about style either. Mostly see people I never know on the
    trail. Even then, there aren't a lot of people out there. If they think I look odd, it almost feels
    like a good thing.

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    True, but it can save your ass when you really need it. I did a major superman endo way up in the
    air at Mt. Creek and landed flat on my chest on a series of boulders. I cracked the chest protector
    and it knocked the wind out of me. Had it not been there, I would have cracked my ribs instead or
    caused more serious damage.

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    - CA-G

    Good enough reason to get armor. I'm thinking of trying some more challenging trails in NH or
    Vermont. Need to learn to ride better then learn more about them before trying them out.

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    I dunno. I've pretty much switched to platforms for all my rides and consequently started wearing
    shin and sometimes knee pads on all of my rides. They aren't too impractical and I've definatly
    gotten some use out of them. If the temp gets over 90 then it's a hard choice but otherwise they
    aren't too bad.

    I ride on platforms myself. Shin and knee pads seem to be a must. I may also spring for some arm and
    elbow padding. Didn't really ride in the woods too much during the summer. Over-heating would
    definitely be a problem in the middle of the summer.

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    The stuff I wear for technical XC is

    Quoted message said:

    Helmet (non fullface),Eyewear, Full finger gloves, Mouth guard, Elbow/arm


    guards

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    Knee/shin guards

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    I wear a mouth piece for a couple reasons......

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    Jack

    Any style or brand of eyewear? I don't need sunglasses as it's rather shady everywhere on the trail.
    Do you use gogles regular glasses?

    Full fingered protection? Even in the summer? This makes sense because if you fall off you want to
    have the leather to protect your whole hand. I may get some.

    Mouth protection. Another great idea. Never would have thought of that. It's fairly cheap. I
    could live with that. Jack, your post is going to cost me some money. But, it may some me some
    teeth. Thanks!

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    Do *you* crash a lot?

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    Are those crashes generally bad?

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    Do you anticipate upping the probability of such crashes in the future?

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    Pete


    I haven't crashed yet... that I can recall. I've only had the bike a year and have only taken it
    out about 30 times or so. I know I'm due.

    A few years ago, while on my road bike I ran into something and stopped suddenly. My groin area
    smashed forward into the handle bar stem. Fortunately, the stem missed my scrotum by less than an
    inch. Otherwise, I would have busted a testicle or two. Funny, we never talk about protecting that
    area. I guess you can say the bike pants chamois offer some protection(?). Heard on Jay Leno years
    ago that groin injuries are one of the leading injuries while biking. He made a joke that bikers
    should be thinking of putting their helmet down there, and not on their head. I haven't seen this in
    anything I've ever read. Has anyone else read this anywhere?

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    Although I agree with most of the other respondants - body armour is a little OTT for general
    mountain biking unless you have a specific injury etc, I thought I'd contribute something a little
    more helpful. Yep the Dainese is pricey but it fits excellently and covers all the major bits.


    The

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    mesh construction isn't the toughest but if you look after it it will last and means that it is
    only slightly rediculously hot to wear.

    A post like this makes me want to at least try out the Dainese as I do have a shoulder problem.
    Almost all the respondents on Mtnbikereview said the same thing. It's very comfortable. If I could
    buy it and return it if it felt uncomfortable while riding I would do so. But, you really can't do
    that with this sort of stuff.

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    No armour. Take the pain, its character building.

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    --Phil


    A word of warning Phil. Don't ever crack this joke if someone falls off their bike and is in pain.
    (I know you wouldn't) But, it happened to me. I tore my ACL 20 years ago playing basketball. One
    player was joking about the incident while I was wrenched in pain. I felt like smashing his face
    in. Fortunately, he stopped joking once he realized how serious my injury was.

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    It's called foresight. Don't be bashful. Use it....

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    Yeah, I could show you some scratches. And I could show you a cracked knee pad that surely would
    have been my knee cap had it not been in the way! Plus I could show you a nice scar on my shin from
    my flats (from urban with out them one evening!)

    I've already gone through one (successful) knee operation. You were lucky. The rider I saw in the
    woods also had a 'nice' scar. It was one of the meanest scars I've ever seen. It was 6 inches
    long and at least 3/8th inch thick residing on his wrist. He had broken it rollerblading. He
    wasn't wearing any wrist protection. You also can see a dramatic difference in the diameter of
    his two wrist.

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    Picked up the Fox 911 gear at pricepoint a couple of years ago. Been one of my best bike related
    purchases, as it has helped KEEP ME ON the bike, and not layed up cuz some pointed rock pierced my
    flesh. Dave (embrace technology!)

    Fox seems like the brand to buy. Not too expensive, yet light and durable to do the job.

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    Lizard skin shin protectors without the crappy plastic insert for the shins are great for the other
    riding though. They keep the pedals and other junk from tearing at the flesh without adding bulk.
    They go on like a big freakin' sock, without the sock part of course! It doesn't sound like you
    need the full DH suit, period. A bit of overkill for XC riding. Not to mention unfreakincomortable
    to wear for sustained periods. Have fun riding.

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    K.

    Lizard skins? Who makes them? I've read numerous postings over the past 2 years about them. I agree
    a whole suit would be overkill and possibly uncomfortable.

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    .... Common sense is the best protection you'll find.

    --

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    -BB-


    Good Point. I live in NE where the leaves are starting to fall. This makes the trails more
    difficult to navigate. I think it's been a matter of luck t hat I haven't fallen yet. This bike
    seems to know where to go. I'm not that coordinated. My bike is a large size and I'm only 6 feet
    tall. I could have gotten away with a medium. This would have given me even greater control on
    rocky or rooty terrain.

    Thanks again everyone! I'm off to find that rocky road. Stamkis

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    Quoted message said:

    The stuff I wear for technical XC is

    Quoted message said:

    Helmet (non fullface),Eyewear, Full finger gloves, Mouth guard, Elbow/arm


    guards

    Quoted message said:

    Knee/shin guards

    Quoted message said:

    I wear a mouth piece for a couple reasons......

    Quoted message said:

    Jack

    Any style or brand of eyewear? I don't need sunglasses as it's rather


    shady

    Quoted message said:

    everywhere on the trail. Do you use gogles regular glasses?

    Full fingered protection? Even in the summer? This makes sense because


    if

    Quoted message said:

    you fall off you want to have the leather to protect your whole hand. I


    may

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    get some.

    Mouth protection. Another great idea. Never would have thought of that. It's fairly cheap. I
    could live with that. Jack, your post is going to cost me some money. But, it may some me some
    teeth. Thanks!

    I wear sunglasses with interchangable lenses. Racing red lenses for all day time rides. It handles
    the bright light to dark shady areas quite well. Clear lenses for night rides.

    I wear full finger gloves with the armor padding on the finger to knuckle area. I've slammed my
    fingers into trees on some new narrow trails. OUCH!!!

    Yeah, teeth don't grow back.

  6. stamkis said:

    Thanks everyone for all your responses. Having read all the postings and thinking it over I'm
    going to get some protection. Not the Rockgardn or the Dainese, but something a bit less
    cumbersome.

    Well, its your money.

    I will agree with the one poster that gloves and eyewear are good everyday protection. I don't know
    how many times I've been surprised by a branch at eye level, and there was a guy on here who took an
    accidental dive into a bush and literally got a stick in the eye. You can get yellow or clear lenses
    at a bike shop or safety store (maybe even Home Depot). UVEX makes a nice looking set (the Genesis)
    that sells for about $6. My first pair of gloves got pretty beat-up from lots of ugly landings, and
    I'm glad it wasn't my hands taking that beating. After all, when you fall, your normal reaction will
    be break your fall with your hands.

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

  7. Humpy Wimp <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    (Respect to the Z-boys JD, but they didn't ride some of the rock gardens we ride, they rode
    sterile enviroments like empty pools! and take a look at Jay Adams, he looks like he fell off his
    skateboard a few too many times)

    Hump away, humpy. You'll always be a chickenshit wimp.

    JD

  8. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Hump away, humpy. You'll always be a chickenshit wimp.

    JD

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit. Too

    flailing freak!

  9. Mark Warner said:

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

    Speaking of irony, how about someone who hides behind fake names and acts like a badass on a
    NEWSGROUP...but who isn't even bright enough to change the e-mail address he uses (though that, no
    doubt, is also made up).

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Hump away, humpy. You'll always be a chickenshit wimp.

    JD

    And you'll alway's be JustaDick, so quit with the crybaby [censored]!

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    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

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    dad. Keep flailing freak!

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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Hump away, humpy. You'll always be a chickenshit wimp.

    JD

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit. Too

    Keep

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    flailing freak!

    What a shock -- it's Bob Rogers again. Why do you keep changing your name, Chickenshit?!?

  12. "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Mark Warner said:

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

    Speaking of irony, how about someone who hides behind fake names and acts like a badass on a
    NEWSGROUP...but who isn't even bright enough to change the e-mail address he uses (though that, no
    doubt, is also made up).

    --
    -BB-

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

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    "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Humpy Wimp <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    Hump away, humpy. You'll always be a chickenshit wimp.

    JD

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.


    Too

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    Keep

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    flailing freak!

    What a shock -- it's Bob Rogers again. Why do you keep changing your


    name,

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    Chickenshit?!?

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

  14. "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Mark Warner said:

    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

    Speaking of irony, how about someone who hides behind fake names and


    acts

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    like a badass on a NEWSGROUP...but who isn't even bright enough to


    change

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    the e-mail address he uses (though that, no doubt, is also made up).

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

    About the same amount Dave pays you to wipe his.

    bloocow - obviously

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    "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "BB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:58:50 -0700, Mark Warner <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

    Speaking of irony, how about someone who hides behind fake names and


    acts

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like a badass on a NEWSGROUP...but who isn't even bright enough to


    change

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    the e-mail address he uses (though that, no doubt, is also made up).

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

    About the same amount Dave pays you to wipe his.

    bloocow - obviously


    Seems that way huh? But don't blame me...I gots nuthin ta do with it!

    Dave (but he is JustaDick, no denying that part!)

  16. Mark Warner said:
    BB said:


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    Oh ghawd the irony. JD accusing someone else of being a chickenshit.

    Speaking of irony, how about someone who hides behind fake names and acts like a badass on a
    NEWSGROUP...but who isn't even bright enough to change the e-mail address he uses (though that,
    no doubt, is also made up).

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

    I didn't say a word about JD; I just pointed out what a complete loser you are. And that's free
    of charge.

    --
    -BB- To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

  17. "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What a shock -- it's Bob Rogers again. Why do you keep changing your


    name,

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    Chickenshit?!?

    BBBWWWAHHAAA!! How much does JustaDick pay you to kiss his ass?

    WHAT?!? We're supposed to get paid?!? Gawdammit - all this time I've been doing it for free!

    Spider

  18. "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>... <snip more chickenshit>

    The funniest part of this is that no sooner than I use the words "chickenshit [censored]" and look what
    pops up. Funny how it popped up right around the same time as the frightpig too.

    JD

  19. BB <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    stamkis said:

    Thanks everyone for all your responses. Having read all the postings and thinking it over I'm
    going to get some protection. Not the Rockgardn or the Dainese, but something a bit less
    cumbersome.



    I was comparing prices and hockey pads seem to be alot cheaper. They look very similar in
    constuction.

    Anyone gone that route?

  20. Quoted message said:

    "Mark Warner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    chickenshit>

    The funniest part of this is that no sooner than I use the words "chickenshit [censored]" and look
    what pops up. Funny how it popped up right around the same time as the frightpig too.

    JD

    BWAAAAHHHHAAAAAA!. That'd be the paranoia setting in, knuckledragger!

    pansie ass [censored]

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