arm doc in Sydney

Zebee Johnstone said:

Someone here might know...

I'm looking for a doc who is good with arms, specifically elbows.
Mine's giving me hell with what might be "golfer's elbow" but also
might be trapped ulna nerve.

My GP doesn't know what's going on, so I want to find someone who
does!

GPs would be hard pressed to understand a nerve problem, or anything
slightly off their beaten track.

Even specialists have trouble providing correct diagnosis,
even with the aids of magnetic resonance imaging et all.

Knowing what is exactly wrong with a body is hard to find out
sometimes. Beneath your skin is an extremely complex being,
and one where many parts all interact.

Quoted message said:

Zebee

I have had appalling pains in elbows sometimes, although
I have not broken any arm bones.
2 years ago the pain seemed related to using a PC,
I went back to my fully qualified accupuncture expert here in the ACT,
and he had me right in 2 days, and taught me what 3 points on my arm I
needed
to massage with finger pressure for 20 seconds twice a day if the pain
returned.
He said that when the pain went away fully, I'd forget to massage my
arm,
but there wouldn't be a need. That's what happened. After
that pain I spent 4 mths full time writing up an 18MB website, no
problems.
My guy is Douglas Godfrey in O'Conner, ACT.
He has been a complete magician with neck and back pains I have endured
several times over the last 12 years, and has achieved miraculous
results when mainstream medicine, pills, physiotherapists, chiropractors
were useless and made matters worse.

Not all accupuncturists are skilled as i found out; some
are clueless.

But when pain that seems nerve related crops up, my accupuncturist
is first port of call, and usually my last,
as it promotes the body's self healing capabilities.

Patrick Turner.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Zebee Johnstone said:

Someone here might know...

I'm looking for a doc who is good with arms, specifically elbows.
Mine's giving me hell with what might be "golfer's elbow" but also
might be trapped ulna nerve.

My GP doesn't know what's going on, so I want to find someone who
does!

Zebee

Zebee,

Do you know how you injured your elbow/arm? Is there swelling or
discolouring? Is the pain constant, intermittent or aggravated by
certain ranges of movement? Is the pain relieved when you take
anti-inflammatories?

That will give you a clue to either a doctor or a physio. I am assuming
that you did not get it playing golf but similar injuries are sustained
through tennis and kayaking.

Bit hard to recommend anybody on the info.

cheers,
Darryl

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:08:47 GMT

20cents said:

Do you know how you injured your elbow/arm? Is there swelling or
discolouring? Is the pain constant, intermittent or aggravated by
certain ranges of movement? Is the pain relieved when you take
anti-inflammatories?

No idea how it was injured, but I suspect there's some overuse.
Aggravated by fencing, aggravated by heavy motorcycle throttles, aggravted
by some mouse use, symptoms include pain on straighening arm, tender to
touch on inside (golfer's elbow) and pain/numbness in ring and little
finger (trapped/irritated ulna).

So I think the first job is to see if my net.diagnosis is correct (as
my GP just looks helpless) and then the doc can say physio or surgery.

(I did talk to a physio and he wasn't sure either.)

Zebee

On 2007-08-26, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:08:47 GMT

20cents said:

Do you know how you injured your elbow/arm? Is there swelling or
discolouring? Is the pain constant, intermittent or aggravated by
certain ranges of movement? Is the pain relieved when you take
anti-inflammatories?

No idea how it was injured, but I suspect there's some overuse.
Aggravated by fencing, aggravated by heavy motorcycle throttles,

You've got to replace those old Guzzis

;P

--
TimC
If I had encountered Bill Gates today, I would have shaken his hand,
said "hello", and stopped kicking as soon as there was nothing left
but a bloody stain on the floor. -- Shag

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:43:12 GMT

TimC said:

On 2007-08-26, Zebee Johnstone (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:

Quoted message said:

No idea how it was injured, but I suspect there's some overuse.
Aggravated by fencing, aggravated by heavy motorcycle throttles,

You've got to replace those old Guzzis

Hence buying the Norge 🙂 Replace old Guzzi with new Guzzi.

The T - my companion for nearly 15 years - is about to go to a new
home. That means the GT - which I've had for longer - will be cleaned
up and re-registered and ridden now and then but not every day.

The 'bent is doing most of the commuting and utility work nowadays. I
just need to convince myself that I don't need to stay at river level
but can climb out of the valley 🙂

(Luckily most of the places I go to regularly aren't uphill.)

Zebee
- who is slowly getting better at climbing but still doesn't *like*
it

Hi Zebee! 3 years ago I had 2 frozen shoulders and was in pain day and
night. I went to the GP who gave me anti inflammatorys without effect. I
went to 2 separate Physios who both gave me different excersises and neither
of them did a thing for my poor shoulders. After 6 months of complaining and
being in pain I went to a sports medicine doctor (did not need a referral
was just a case of finding out who was the Taipans' sport med doctor,
Taipans being the local Basketball rep team). Anyway this fat little doctor
heard my story, felt my shoulders, moved them around, referred me to a
specialised Physio who actually deals only with sports injuries and within a
fortnight I was on top of things again.
My advice would be to find out who your top "sports physios" ie those that
actually only deal with elite atheletes, and go see them. It might be better
than going to the local physio who deals with all sorts of complaints but
nothing specific.
Anyway, my 2 cents worth 🙂
Kathy

TimC said:

You've got to replace those old Guzzis

He probably need a new fibreglass handled shovel as well and perhaps a
touch up on the crowbar, then if that doesn't help, perhaps a decent
generatorand jackhammer to relieve some of the hard work.

Zebee Johnstone said:

Someone here might know...

I'm looking for a doc who is good with arms, specifically elbows.
Mine's giving me hell with what might be "golfer's elbow" but also
might be trapped ulna nerve.

My GP doesn't know what's going on, so I want to find someone who
does!

Zebee

Most of my friends are specialists of one kind or another. I'll ask tomorrow.
The big question is do you have health insurance?

Cheers

Geoff

just us said:

Hi Zebee! 3 years ago I had 2 frozen shoulders and was in pain day and
night. I went to the GP who gave me anti inflammatorys without effect. I
went to 2 separate Physios who both gave me different excersises and neither
of them did a thing for my poor shoulders. After 6 months of complaining and
being in pain I went to a sports medicine doctor (did not need a referral
was just a case of finding out who was the Taipans' sport med doctor,
Taipans being the local Basketball rep team). Anyway this fat little doctor
heard my story, felt my shoulders, moved them around, referred me to a
specialised Physio who actually deals only with sports injuries and within a
fortnight I was on top of things again.
My advice would be to find out who your top "sports physios" ie those that
actually only deal with elite atheletes, and go see them. It might be better
than going to the local physio who deals with all sorts of complaints but
nothing specific.
Anyway, my 2 cents worth 🙂
Kathy

I had visits to doctors who treated elites back in the late 80s, but
they didn't do much good.

Doing yoga helped me enormously when i raced and trained 300k a week in
my late 30s/early 40s.
Accupuncture with lasers is very effective I have found, like magic
where
all other things failed, and its non invasive, so should be tried first
before looking for a surgeon,
because success rates in nerve surgery isn't always wonderful.

But you are right about finding the right person; some operators are
much better than others.

Patrick Turner.

In aus.bicycle on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:16:19 +1000

geoffs said:

Most of my friends are specialists of one kind or another. I'll ask
tomorrow.
The big question is do you have health insurance?

Yes. Of course these days that doesn't mean anything as the fees the
docs charge and the fees the insurance pays are wildly different plus
it doesn't matter what cover you have you probably aren't covered for
*that*.

But yes, I do.

Zebee

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In aus.bicycle on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:08:47 GMT

20cents said:

Do you know how you injured your elbow/arm? Is there swelling or
discolouring? Is the pain constant, intermittent or aggravated by
certain ranges of movement? Is the pain relieved when you take
anti-inflammatories?

Hi Zeb,

I strongly advise staying away from the knife unless the surgeon KNOWS
what the problem is and knows that there are no less radical ways to deal
with it.

Quoted message said:

No idea how it was injured, but I suspect there's some overuse.

Time for you to experiment (and take notes). Experiment means stop doing
X for a week or so (or approach X differently) and observe the consequences.

Quoted message said:

Aggravated by fencing, aggravated by heavy motorcycle throttles, aggravted
by some mouse use, symptoms include pain on straighening arm, tender to
touch on inside (golfer's elbow) and pain/numbness in ring and little
finger (trapped/irritated ulna).

Is it only one arm? Maybe the recumbent is innocent.

Inside of elbow? Overuse, habitual tension?

Mouse use? I learnt to use the mouse with either hand. Only took half a day. Solved
an muscle issue between the shoulder and neck.

Quoted message said:

So I think the first job is to see if my net.diagnosis is correct (as
my GP just looks helpless) and then the doc can say physio or surgery.

The comments about sports doctors and sports physios are good advice.
Some yoga teachers could also be helpful (ie, those who have a wide range
of age groups in their classes, no lycra, and a few fit people who are dealing
with overuse or injury recovery).

Quoted message said:

(I did talk to a physio and he wasn't sure either.)

Normal physios deal with people in recovery from injuries and surgery.
Ie, not people who are normally active and maybe overdoing some activities.

Tomasso.

Quoted message said:

Zebee

Hi Zeebee

Been a bit busy and I forgot all about asking for an elbow doc. However as we were hit by a car. last Saturday when we were riding home on the tandem, I have a lot more time available. still waiting for a reply on elbows.
Here are the best in Sydney that are recommended for other problems common to cyclists:

Des Bokor - shoulder surgeon
Leo Pinczewski - Knee surgeon

and for a sports physio in Leichhardt try Paul Fioretti in Renwick St. I've been to see him today for my damaged left shoulder and right hand.

Cheers

Geoff

In aus.bicycle on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:30:02 +1000

geoffs said:

Hi Zeebee

Been a bit busy and I forgot all about asking for an elbow doc. However
as we were hit by a car. last Saturday when we were riding home on the
tandem, I have a lot more time available. still waiting for a reply on
elbows.

Yipes!

Thanks for the recommendation.

I wonder if the hit was target fixation... "what is that! Oh, I seem
to have hit whatever it was..."

Zebee

Zebee Johnstone said:

In aus.bicycle on Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:30:02 +1000

geoffs said:

Hi Zeebee

Been a bit busy and I forgot all about asking for an elbow doc. However
as we were hit by a car. last Saturday when we were riding home on the
tandem, I have a lot more time available. still waiting for a reply on
elbows.

Yipes!

Thanks for the recommendation.

I wonder if the hit was target fixation... "what is that! Oh, I seem
to have hit whatever it was..."

Zebee

The driver didn't even let the thought of looking contemplate crossing his mind. He just pulled out from a line of cars waiting at a red light (Norton st turning right onto Parramatta) so he could drive on the wrong side of the road to turn into renwick lane. He did this when we were a meter away from the cars front bumper which hit our front wheel a moment before we hit the ground.

Cheers

Geoff