are these good hubs?

In article <[email hidden]>, stevek@knight-
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for the price these seem like a good deal
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it makes me wonder since there were so few bidders.

There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they
use special spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged is
much better. Shimano makes some very nice hubs at very
reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo. Why mess with unknown
over-priced hubs?
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Alex

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There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they
use special spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged
is much better. Shimano makes some very nice hubs at very
reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo. Why mess with
unknown over-priced hubs?

you can't get good shimano or campy hubs for 61.00 and I
found the spokes no problem. sheldons site shows they are a
bit weaker the forged but does that really mean that they
will fail?

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into
jet engines"

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There are a two reasons I would not buy them. First, they
use special spokes. Second, they are CNC machined, forged
is much better. Shimano makes some very nice hubs at very
reasonable prices, as does Campagnolo. Why mess with
unknown over-priced hubs?

you can't get good shimano or campy hubs for 61.00 and I
found the spokes

no

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problem. sheldons site shows they are a bit weaker the
forged but does

that

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really mean that they will fail?

Its interesting that you state you can't get *good* shimano
or campy hubs for $61.00. That may be true, but what makes
you think these CNC hubs are any better?

Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs.
However, you appear intent on getting them. If you think
these hubs are "as strong" as forged shimano or campy and
that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all means
go for it!

You pay for what you get....

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Its interesting that you state you can't get *good* shimano
or campy hubs for $61.00. That may be true, but what makes
you think these CNC hubs are any better?

well I hope they are. I thought I would get outbid on them.
but they do look pretty nice. I will see when I get them.

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Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs.
However, you appear intent on getting them. If you think
these hubs are "as strong" as forged shimano or campy and
that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all
means go for it!

I got them so what choice do I have but to sell them again?
yes I found spokes no problem if I can I bet my mechanic can
too. hell anymore there are a lot of oddball spokes out
there. and I asked is the strength issue really a issue? I
mean is the hub gonna blow apart? they won't be laced radial-
spoked. sometimes I like to get away from the mainstream and
try other brands. I try to get the best I can afford and not
shop by brand name.

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into
jet engines"

Those hubs have a strange spoke arrangement.

36 in the front and 32 in the rear.

Lewis.

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for the price these seem like a good deal
cgi.ebay.comeBayISAPI.dl...item=3684231122Open ↗ but
it makes me wonder since there were so few bidders.

" Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet
engines"

(Lewis Campbell) said:

Those hubs have a strange spoke arrangement.

36 in the front and 32 in the rear.

Yes I noticed that. but I had only planned on using the rear
and selling the front hub. I don't think they were a pair
since the model numbers are so different.

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Alex gave 2 excellent reasons not to get these hubs.
However, you appear intent on getting them. If you think
these hubs are "as strong" as forged shimano or campy and
that you will "no problem" getting spokes, then by all
means go for it!

I got them so what choice do I have but to sell them
again? yes I found spokes no problem if I can I bet my
mechanic can too. hell anymore there are a lot of oddball
spokes out there. and I asked is the strength issue really
a issue? I mean is the hub gonna blow apart? they won't be
laced radial-spoked. sometimes I like to get away from the
mainstream and try other brands. I try to get the best I
can afford and not shop by brand name.

You actually do have another choice, since you got them,
build them up and ride!

As long as you or a good wheelbuilder builts them well,
using a good rim, spokes (I believe you can get db straight
pull spokes) and nipples, you should be fine. If you're
really concern about durability/reliability, save your money
and have a 2nd wheel built up with a forged shimano or campy
hub that will use standard db spokes!

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You actually do have another choice, since you got them,
build them up and ride!

that's what I planned on doing.

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As long as you or a good wheelbuilder builts them well,
using a good rim, spokes (I believe you can get db straight
pull spokes) and nipples, you should be fine. If you're
really concern about durability/reliability, save your
money and have a 2nd wheel built up with a forged shimano
or campy hub that will use standard db spokes!

I have a good wheel builder so I am not too worried. I
think they will work fine. hell you don't go to the trouble
to setting up CNC to make junk it's way to expensive. the
fellow I got them from emailed me this.

I think I exhausted all avenues of inquiry re. the hubs.
Sella Italia did not answer my email and my regular source
for bike queries (Sheldon Brown at Harris
Cyclery.............
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to help. I posted several queries on cycling forums and only
got one response from a guy in the UK who had seen the same
hubs in a bike shop a few months ago but new nothing more
about them. I suspect they were made in limited numbers
under contract for Sella Italia by a European machine shop.
This would make them all the more valuable as collectors
items............ but they look to good not to use!

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I suspect they were made in limited numbers under contract
for >Sella

Italia by a European machine shop. This would make them
all >the more valuable as collectors items............ but
they look to

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good not to use!

Your choice to use these hubs is the correct one. Unless you
can some how figure out how to make these hubs attractive to
those "Japanese collectors", I'd doubt these hubs would be
"more valuable" as collectors items. Use them and enjoy!

In article <[email hidden]>, stevek@knight-
toolworks.com says...

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I have a good wheel builder so I am not too worried. I
think they will work fine. hell you don't go to the
trouble to setting up CNC to make junk it's way to
expensive.

If that was only true. There is a lot of CNC junk out there.
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Alex

here is the email from selle looks like I made out
pretty well.

These are the real thing not some China knock off, the
owners son of Selle Italia several years ago decide that
they should expand the SI product line into wheels as with
anything Selle Italia does they went first class and had
everything made from scratch to their specifications by
Alpina Raggi a fantastic Italian spoke and nipple company,
the hubs are C and Cd out of a solid block of a alloy,
bearings used are completely sealed for low maintenance and
encompass several seals while the front axle is alloy the
rear is Titanium. As for spokes you will need to use a
straight pull spoke when lacing to get the spoke length it
will depend on the ERD of the rim the dealer you purchase
the spokes from should be able to but into a computer
program available to them from distributors the hub diameter
and rim ERD which will compute the spoke length.

Suggested retail on a set of these hubs when new and being
promoted was (sit down) over $600.00 so at $61.00 you got a
great deal, just remember that they haven’t been made for
about 6 years so no parts are available but with proper care
should give you many many miles of trouble free riding
enjoyment.

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