Are summit's good?



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I know Summit's are good, but just how good? If you know anything about
them could you tell me I may have an oppurtunity to but one, But I'm not
sure if they're that good.

Tell me pro's and con's, and how they compare in the trials world.

David


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Dollar for dollar it is about as good as it gets. I would say it is
pretty industructable, of course I am not 13 anymore. I probably could
have destroyed it back then. Just like pretty much everything else I
had.

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I would say an 8/10 is pretty good.


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Summit is the same as the KH20 except for the frame.
The cranks are the same, the hub is the same. And you don't break frames
often. I got my Summit for $200 on Ebay. KH are $400. I think I got an
incredible deal.

The summit frame is a little bit heavier though. I wouldn't hesitate to
get it for a trials.


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That's good. I'm not thirteen anymore either. I'm 15 :D. But anyway, do
you have one? If so where'd you get it? I've heard you get them at LBS's
but mine kinda sucks, so if anybody else's LBS has one could they give
me the number.

Thanks,
David

Ps. I'm keeping an eye on ebay too.


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It came with a Viscount seat which I like for comfort but no handle so I
haven't done much heavy trials. Waiting to get the next gen KH i
think.

It has held up for me. That's not saying much. To get any stronger you
would have to get either a KH20 (which is probably debatable if its any
stronger) or a Profile hub and cranks. Those are a lot more.

I think its safe to say that the Summit is the STRONGEST hub and cranks
for less than $400. I got mine on ebay. I don't think you can get them
anywhere else. If you do buy it.


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They were orginially a prototype of the KH, which KH rejected, but his
Taiwan manufacturer got antsy and began producing them anyway. There's
only 400 in existence. That's what their description on unicycle.com
said anyways. They've since been all sold out, but now and then one
does surface on ebay or in an LBS.

Like other's said, it's the same exact wheelset as the KH, but
apparently built poorly. The two members of HoW that have summits both
make squishy clicky noises from the loose spokes. This isn't really a
big deal if you know how to true wheels, or don't mind spending $20 to
have an LBS do it for you.

Also, the first ones came with viscount seats, then unicycle.com put on
KH seats to get them all sold.

They're out there, happy searching. If it's $300 or less, I'd get it.
If they try to sell it to you for more than that, might as well get an
Onza or KH.


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Wow that's really interesting. I think I may of found one or two, and I
think I'll go with em. The only problem is both are in your crazy
American Dollars, but I'll just have to sacrifice food for a short
while.

David


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<offtopic>
You're question confused me a while, since gw01.unicycle.net is a Summit
to.
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hell-on-wheel wrote:
> *
> Like other's said, it's the same exact wheelset as the KH, but
> apparently built poorly. The two members of HoW that have summits
> both make squishy clicky noises from the loose spokes. This isn't
> really a big deal if you know how to true wheels, or don't mind
> spending $20 to have an LBS do it for you.*


Interestingly enough, I haven't had this problem. I bought a Summit at
about the same time a friend got a KH. The Summit does make some noise
(small 'tink' sounds from the spokes), but the KH is much louder. You
can hear it coming a ways down the street.

Both are excellent unis, and handle abuse well. The Summit frame is a
smidge heavier than the KH, but it makes almost no difference to me.
Definately a good deal.


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There's a Summit on eBay right now.

The seller claims it's a DiamondBack but the pictures would suggest
otherwise.

http://tinyurl.com/3ymgb

I'm tempted to bid on it but I've already got one and, although I like
mine, I don't need another.

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entropy wrote:
> *
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> Interestingly enough, I haven't had this problem. I bought a Summit
> at about the same time a friend got a KH. The Summit does make some
> noise (small 'tink' sounds from the spokes), but the KH is much
> louder. You can hear it coming a ways down the street.
> *

That's not a good way to differentiate or compare the Summit and KH.
It's a wheel build issue and will be an issue with any trials unicycle
that doesn't have a carefully hand built wheel.

From the factory, both the KH and the Summit don't have a stellar wheel
build. The solution is to take the new wheel to a good bike shop that
knows how to build wheels. Have them add more tension to all of the
spokes. After that the wheel should be all good, the spokes shouldn't
creak or tink, and the spokes should all stay tight.

Most (almost all) unicycles come with rather poor wheel builds. The
exception are custom unicycles with carefully hand built wheels. Any
unicycle wheel that is going to be abused be it a muni, trials uni,
freestyle uni, or street uni, should have the wheel tensioned up before
you start abusing it.


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J. C.
That's good to here because my LBS would be able to do that, and so far
that was the only problem I was hearing. Also, I had looked at that one
on e-bay but there is just something about it that doesn't feel right to
me. I may look in to it more but I still don't know.

Thanks,
David


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john_childs wrote:
> *
> Most (almost all) unicycles come with rather poor wheel builds. The
> exception are custom unicycles with carefully hand built wheels. Any
> unicycle wheel that is going to be abused be it a muni, trials uni,
> freestyle uni, or street uni, should have the wheel tensioned up
> before you start abusing it. *


Is this a one of the 'carefully hand built wheels' you're talking
about:

http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=642

It says: *Wheelbuilding services by Kovachi Wheels
(www.kovachiwheels.com)*

I'm hoping it's hand built well if it's by them.


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john_childs wrote:
> *Any unicycle wheel that is going to be abused be it a muni, trials
> uni, freestyle uni, or street uni, should have the wheel tensioned up
> before you start abusing it.... *


disagree unless you add

.... in case this wheel is asembled of a wrong combination of parts.


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darchibald wrote:
> *...but there is just something about it that doesn't feel right to
> me.*


Could it be the lack of pedals? I agree that one looks a little
sketchy.


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Yeah I noticed the pedals, plus the site (if you'd call it that) doesn't
look very professional. Also why would they call it a diamondback if it
was a summit? Finally I think the crown looks a little different too,
but I'm not sure.

David


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