ARBR trivia

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How old is this group? Who started this group? How long have you been posting on this group? Does
anybody moderate this group? Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!!!

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Martin Krieg of NBG (I think) got ARBR going. Are we Moderated?...can you imagine how cruel THAT
would be to have someone moderate this group day after day, year after year? Would think it would be
cruel and unusual punishment to bestoy upon anyone. As for how long I personally have been posting
to this group...lurked for 2 years till I figured out how to post, suspect many of my posts ended up
in another NG because they never appeared on this board. A couple of years ago I finally figured it
out...much to everyone's dismay (especially for Fast Freddy). I have no idea how long this NG has
been around...at least 4 years, I'd guess around 1996/7 since the group would refer to earlier posts
as I lurked in 1999.
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How old is this group? Who started this group? How long have you been posting on this group? Does
anybody moderate this group? Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!!!

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How old is this group? Who started this group? How long have you been posting on this group? Does
anybody moderate this group? Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!!!

Here's what I believe is the first post...That was this week, six years ago!

Regards -- DP

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From: Martin Krieg ([email hidden]) Subject: The New Recumbent Bicycle Newsgroup!! This is
the only article in this thread View: Original Format Newsgroups: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,
rec.bicycles.misc, rec.bicycles, marketplace, ba.bicycles, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.bicycles.rides,
rec.bicycles.tech Date: 1997/05/13

Announcing the successful actualization of a new newsgroup for recumbent bicycles entitled:

alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.

If your ISP doesn't carry it, ask them to!

Look here for a broad exchange of ideas as recumbents usher us into the next millenium with a ground
swell of excitement!! Sales and ridership of recumbent bicycles are growing at unprecedented levels
as more and more bike dealers across the country are beginning to make them available to the
public.......

I want to especiallly thank Eugene A. Calame, Martijn Dekker (all the way from Norway) & Paula J.
Morrow for helping me figure out how to send a control message to make this newsgroup a reality!

And THX to Dave Giggy for helping us make bikeroute.combikeroute.comOpen ↗ the largest recumbent bicycle web
site in the world!! THX Dave, U R truly awesome!!

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How old is this group? Who started this group? How long have you been posting on this group?
Does anybody moderate this group? Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!!!

Here's what I believe is the first post...That was this week, six years ago!

Regards -- DP

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From: Martin Krieg ([email hidden]) Subject: The New Recumbent Bicycle Newsgroup!! This is
the only article in this thread View: Original Format Newsgroups: alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,
rec.bicycles.misc, rec.bicycles, marketplace, ba.bicycles, rec.bicycles.soc, rec.bicycles.rides,
rec.bicycles.tech Date: 1997/05/13

Announcing the successful actualization of a new newsgroup for recumbent bicycles entitled:

alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent.

If your ISP doesn't carry it, ask them to!

Look here for a broad exchange of ideas as recumbents usher us into the next millenium with a
ground swell of excitement!! Sales and ridership of recumbent bicycles are growing at
unprecedented levels as more and more bike dealers across the country are beginning to make them
available to the public.......

I want to especiallly thank Eugene A. Calame, Martijn Dekker (all the way from Norway) & Paula J.
Morrow for helping me figure out how to send a control message to make this newsgroup a reality!

And THX to Dave Giggy for helping us make bikeroute.combikeroute.comOpen ↗ the largest recumbent bicycle
web site in the world!! THX Dave, U R truly awesome!!

Oddly enough, Martin Krieg, the founder of this newsgroup, has managed to get himself into most
people's killfile through his incessant spamming of this ng. Too bad, good intentions gone awry.

My $0.02 worth - worth even less in Canada

<Chas

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My $0.02 worth - worth even less in Canada

Worth $0.0146 US on May 16, 2003.

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

(Bill B) said:

Who started this group?

Kind of ashame that he never adds his viewpoint to any of the threads...

Daniel

Martin of CycleAmerica fame started this group; then got flamed off of it after mercilessly spamming
it one too many times. Bless him anyways. You would have to meet him in person to understand. I have
been posting here since 1998. Nobody responds to my posts anymore since I put that post in here
about recumbent riders all being aging overweight weaklings a few years ago . . . .bent riders have
no sense of humor.

Anyone here still remember saar.recumbent group? The short list of this NG's ghosts would not be
complete without Marci, who has the standing record for the most bents owned by a non-dealer.

Derek

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How old is this group? Who started this group? How long have you been posting on this group? Does
anybody moderate this group? Inquiring minds need to know!!!!!!!

Derek said:

... Anyone here still remember saar.recumbent group? The short list of this NG's ghosts would not
be complete without Marci, who has the standing record for the most bents owned by a non-dealer.

I believe that "bentbiker" from Toledo [1] has owned even more recumbent bikes than Marci.

As for Marci being a ghost, she posted to a.r.b.r. as recently as four days ago.

[1] Ohio, not Spain.

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

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I have been posting here

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since 1998. Nobody responds to my posts anymore since I put that post in here about recumbent
riders all being aging overweight weaklings a few

years

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ago . . . .bent riders have no sense of humor.

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Derek

Derek, I take offenceto the remark that bent riders have no sense of humor. I have a great sense of
humor. You are now in my Kill file Denny in Sayre, Pa "Bent but not Broken" www.recumbentstuff.com

Derek, if you want to be really "funny" make a reply to EVERY topic, then Denny will have to see it
when it's replied to. Just kidding guys, every one get back to real bent topics now.

Denny Voorhees said:

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I have been posting here

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since 1998. Nobody responds to my posts anymore since I put that post in here about recumbent
riders all being aging overweight weaklings a few

years

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ago . . . .bent riders have no sense of humor.

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Derek

Derek, I take offenceto the remark that bent riders have no sense of humor. I have a great sense
of humor. You are now in my Kill file Denny in Sayre, Pa "Bent but not Broken"
www.recumbentstuff.com

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Derek, if you want to be really "funny" make a reply to EVERY topic, then Denny will have to see
it when it's replied to. Just kidding guys,

So am I Denny

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(Bill B) said:

Who started this group?

Kind of ashame that he never adds his viewpoint to any of the threads...

Daniel

He has! One time he posted a rather extensive and glowing review on a Penniger trike he acquired and
some unenlighted soul accused him of spamming just because Penniger is one of the advertisers on his
website. So it's alright for a Baccetta dealer to post glowing reviews on those bikes and not be
accused of spamming but Martin can't talk about a bike that he actually owns and uses as a real
vehicle. It's alright for a recumbent dealer to post announcements of merchandise he is trying to
get rid of but Martin can't post announcements having to do with bicycle activism and advocacy aimed
at creating public and governmental awareness for the protection of our rights as cyclists.

Yes he created this newsgroup and not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so. Sure
someone else would have done so had he not taken the initiative but the point is that he took it.

For the record, I've been actively participating in this newsgroup for 4 years plus and look forward
to signing on almost every day to read and post to it.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

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(Bill B) said:

Who started this group?

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Daniel

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It's alright for a recumbent dealer to post announcements of merchandise he is trying to get rid
of but Martin can't post announcements having to do with bicycle activism and advocacy aimed at
creating public and governmental awareness for the protection of our rights as cyclists.

Yes he created this newsgroup and not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so.

I have. Thanks again Martin.

rorschandt

a bunch of benters from Florida gossiped in manner most torrida they sniped and they griped about
elongated pipe leaving cyclisti quite borrida

(Edward Wong) said:

Yes he created this newsgroup and not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so. Sure
someone else would have done so had he not taken the initiative but the point is that he took it.

For the record, I've been actively participating in this newsgroup for 4 years plus and look
forward to signing on almost every day to read and post to it.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

Well i would like to thank him myself. He seems like he is one of those folks who is easily
misunderstood.

BTW i've been here about 4 years myself and i read just about every thing, but i am not a prolific
poster. I read mostly offline and it seems as though, by the time i have something to say, some one
has already said it. That is fine with me...

Cheers, Daniel, S.E Pa.

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(Bill B) said:

Who started this group?

Kind of ashame that he never adds his viewpoint to any of the threads...

Daniel

He has! One time he posted a rather extensive and glowing review on a Penniger trike he acquired
and some unenlighted soul accused him of spamming just because Penniger is one of the advertisers
on his website. So it's alright for a Baccetta dealer to post glowing reviews on those bikes and
not be accused of spamming but Martin can't talk about a bike that he actually owns and uses as a
real vehicle.

Yes he created this newsgroup and not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so. Sure
someone else would have done so had he not taken the initiative but the point is that he took it.

The reason that 'not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so' is because Martin has
managed to get placed in many active readers 'bozo bin' I for one never see his posts any more and
the NG is a much nicer place for me since I quit putting up with Martin's obsequious flattery.

Everything that Martin posts is 'extensive and glowing'. That gets very tiring after a while. The
same can not be said of the occasional 'glowing review' by a Bacchetta dealer or Tour Easy Employee.

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Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗
- Bellaire, TX USA -

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Everything that Martin posts is 'extensive and glowing'. That gets very tiring after a while. The
same can not be said of the occasional 'glowing review' by a Bacchetta dealer or Tour Easy
Employee.

Well that's his writing style and I guess no one has to read his stuff if they don't want to. The
constant "Bents are faster than wedgies" posts to me get more tiring than the occasional "extensive
and glowing" post from Martin.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

I've been here since 98 or 99. I think in my first post I spelled Cletus (one E) Lee's (two E's)
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(Edward Wong) said:

Yes he created this newsgroup and not one has stepped forward to thank him for doing so.
Sure someone else would have done so had he not taken the initiative but the point is that
he took it.

For the record, I've been actively participating in this newsgroup for 4 years plus and look
forward to signing on almost every day to read and post to it.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

Well i would like to thank him myself. He seems like he is one of those folks who is easily
misunderstood.

BTW i've been here about 4 years myself and i read just about every thing, but i am not a prolific
poster. I read mostly offline and it seems as though, by the time i have something to say, some
one has already said it. That is fine with me...

Cheers, Daniel, S.E Pa.