arachidonic acid

yuluwirri said:

What foods contain this

Plenty of different foods but it's highest in red
meats.

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and why is it so bad for you?

It's not bad for you as such. An excess of it is
bad for you, but then again so is a lack of it.
It's an inflamitory so too much of it causes
bloating, easy bruising and so on. Too little
has a similar set of problems, though.

The issue is that some Americans eat a lot of red
meat compared to other types and they end up with
too much. It's an inflamitory so it tends to be
associated with problems ranging from water
retension trough conjective heart failure.

But some level of inflamitory is good. Think of
extremist vegans who tend to be wrinkled and
fragile. Completely avoiding red meat is just as
much a potential problem as eating only red meat
as your protein source.

So the best approach is getting your protein from
an assortment of sources. Different classes of
meats, legumes, you name it. Not exactly a
shocking conclusion. Even Inuits who have a diet
that's nearly all raw and/or dried meat eat plenty
of fish (arguably white meat) as well as plenty of
seal (arguably red met). There is balance even in
as unbalanced a diet as theirs.

Different types of polyunsaturated fatty acids are
essential. Omega-3 and omega-9 I think. We're
supposed to get a balance of them from animal and/or
plant sources. Red meat is higher in -9, lower in
-3 types. Apparantly AA is a type of -9?

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yuluwirri said:

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What foods contain this and why is it so bad for you?

It's found in concentrated amounts in heavily marbled feedlot raised
beef and in factory farmed egg yolks.

Grass fed beef and naturally raised, omega 3 eggs are lower in it, and
higher in other compounds that protect against the effects.

AA can be highly inflammatory when in excess, especially to those who
are very sensitive to it.

Susan

What are the symptoms of having high concentrations of arachidonic
acid?

You might as well kill yourself before the arachidonic acid gets you.

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What are the symptoms of having high concentrations of arachidonic
acid?

It is inflammatory so it can make your cholesterol go up and increase your
insulin resistance. It would probably increase your CRP so your joints
may hurt more if you have arthritis.

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On 19 Oct 2005 14:04:37 -0700, "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]>

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yuluwirri said:

What foods contain this

Plenty of different foods but it's highest in red
meats.

Quoted message said:

and why is it so bad for you?

It's not bad for you as such. An excess of it is
bad for you, but then again so is a lack of it.
It's an inflamitory so too much of it causes
bloating, easy bruising and so on. Too little
has a similar set of problems, though.

The issue is that some Americans eat a lot of red
meat compared to other types and they end up with
too much. It's an inflamitory so it tends to be
associated with problems ranging from water
retension trough conjective heart failure.

But some level of inflamitory is good. Think of
extremist vegans who tend to be wrinkled and
fragile. Completely avoiding red meat is just as
much a potential problem as eating only red meat
as your protein source.

So the best approach is getting your protein from
an assortment of sources. Different classes of
meats, legumes, you name it. Not exactly a
shocking conclusion. Even Inuits who have a diet
that's nearly all raw and/or dried meat eat plenty
of fish (arguably white meat) as well as plenty of
seal (arguably red met). There is balance even in
as unbalanced a diet as theirs.

Different types of polyunsaturated fatty acids are
essential. Omega-3 and omega-9 I think. We're
supposed to get a balance of them from animal and/or
plant sources. Red meat is higher in -9, lower in
-3 types. Apparantly AA is a type of -9?

Excellent. Thank you for all this information.
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:42:42 -0400, Susan <[email hidden]>

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yuluwirri said:

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What foods contain this and why is it so bad for you?

It's found in concentrated amounts in heavily marbled feedlot raised
beef and in factory farmed egg yolks.

Grass fed beef and naturally raised, omega 3 eggs are lower in it, and
higher in other compounds that protect against the effects.

AA can be highly inflammatory when in excess, especially to those who
are very sensitive to it.

Thanks Susan.

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Susan

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What foods contain this

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Plenty of different foods but it's highest in red meats.

One recommended way to lower levels of arachidonic acid is through the
consumption of fish oil. From some sources I've read, swapping most red
meat for salmon will assist in this.

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Blues2Blame said:

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What foods contain this

Quoted message said:

Plenty of different foods but it's highest in red meats.

One recommended way to lower levels of arachidonic acid is through the
consumption of fish oil. From some sources I've read, swapping most red
meat for salmon will assist in this.

Swapping feedlot red meat for grass/range fed will do it, too. Or
skipping egg yolks, or only eating high omega 3 eggs.

I love wild king salmon, but I'd kill myself if I had to eat it more
than once per week.

Susan

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Swapping feedlot red meat for grass/range fed will do it, too. Or
skipping egg yolks, or only eating high omega 3 eggs.

All good ideas.

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I love wild king salmon, but I'd kill myself if I had to eat it more
than once per week.

I could live off of salmon. I buy the wild salmon fillets
prepackaged/frozen at our local Costco. It is nothing like what my
mother used to serve me as a kid. No salmon skin and salmon bones to
contend with, which used to be a HUGE turnoff for me.
Nowadays, I pop a frozen fillet into the toaster oven. I top the fillet
with olive oil, pepper and dill seasoning. I wrap the salmon in tin
foil and 20 minutes later I have the tastiest meal ever.

For lunch, I will couple the salmon with a cup or two of spinach
leaves, cucumber, tomatoes, olives and feta cheesse. I coat the mixture
with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, lemon juice, garlic and ginger.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm!!

Whenever I did Atkins, I used to eat TONS of beef and eggs. Since then
I hardly touch meat - I can't stomach the thought of eating it
everyday. Fish is my new friend, and is very Atkins friendly :-)

Blues2Blame

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Blues2Blame said:

I could live off of salmon. I buy the wild salmon fillets
prepackaged/frozen at our local Costco. It is nothing like what my
mother used to serve me as a kid. No salmon skin and salmon bones to
contend with, which used to be a HUGE turnoff for me.
Nowadays, I pop a frozen fillet into the toaster oven. I top the fillet
with olive oil, pepper and dill seasoning. I wrap the salmon in tin
foil and 20 minutes later I have the tastiest meal ever.

For lunch, I will couple the salmon with a cup or two of spinach
leaves, cucumber, tomatoes, olives and feta cheesse. I coat the mixture
with olive oil, balsamic vinegar, lemon juice, garlic and ginger.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm!!

I love salmon, but it's very rich, and I just can't eat it that often,
unless it's wood smoked on a LC bagel. I've never been able to tolerate
salmon with bones and skin, yech.

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Whenever I did Atkins, I used to eat TONS of beef and eggs.

Some folks do, I guess, but most folks learn to create a diet with a lot
more variety. I've never enjoyed a heavy, greasy mouthfeel that's not
the result of brie or good chocolate. I think only those with little
interest in food or little imagination eat tons of beef and eggs on
Atkins. Very boring.

Since then

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I hardly touch meat - I can't stomach the thought of eating it
everyday. Fish is my new friend, and is very Atkins friendly :-)

Fish is Atkins friendly. We have it in our house a lot. Halibut steaks
grill nicely, mahi mahi, salmon in season, calimari, scungilli, shrimp,
limited swordfish and tuna steaks...

Susan